MY BEST DAY YET !!! SILVER 1676 COIN !! .. 1ST SILVER RING !! AND MORE

[AQUA]

What a awsum day detecting.

Hunted some old Acadian land.....the 1676 coin was only 1 inch deep !!!!! CAN ANYONE ID IT FOR ME.?

The silver ring was at 4 inches.....but don,t think its all that old..dunno.

The copper coin I can,t identify..perhaps someone can .....that was a few feet from a foundation.

The musket balls were close to the surface also.

I found out why things were so close to the surface....at the end of the day I was talking with the owner..thay had the top 10-12 inches of soil stripped away from the fields close to the house when they built it !!!!


My 1st 1600s coin and my 1st silver coin in 2 months.

 

[arrowhead82]

really awesome finds! love the buckles and the coin.
HH

 

[Steve in PA]

A couple great early coins there! Nice shoe buckle too. Looking forward to more from that early site!

 

[CASPER-2]

 

[detroitdigger]

Sweet finds, I'm envious, congrats. HH

 

[Iron Patch]

ty PATRIOT..

But what I mean is---what is the value of the coin back in 1676...what does 4 sols convert to in $ or cents

oh got ya now, it was probably worth $20 or $30. I have no idea really, but wouldn't be surprised if it was like us losing a $50 bill.

 

[vpnavy]

 

[BuckleBoy]

KILLER 4 Sols! Any time a 1600s silver comes out with that much detail is a RARE day! Coins like that are on my list, if any of those Acadians still had them jingling in their pockets when they headed South!

Cheers,


Buck

 

[skateandcreate]

That silver sure is sweet.

 

[Erik in NJ]

To answer your question just measure your coin against US coinage that was loosely based on the Spanish silver coin weights. I'm guessing the coin you found is approximately the size of a US quarter? If so it was like losing a quarter back then, however, a quarter had a heck of a lot more buying power then than now due to inflation etc. There are internet sites that will tell you what a quarter would buy in the 1600s in 2013 dollars. I'm guessing (this is just a rough guess now) about $20 or so. Nice King Louis the 14th!

 

[Iron Patch]

To answer your question just measure your coin against US coinage that was loosely based on the Spanish silver coin weights. I'm guessing the coin you found is approximately the size of a US quarter? If so it was like losing a quarter back then, however, a quarter had a heck of a lot more buying power then than now due to inflation etc. There are internet sites that will tell you what a quarter would buy in the 1600s in 2013 dollars. I'm guessing (this is just a rough guess now) about $20 or so. Nice King Louis the 14th!

Having read, but not recalling very well, about payments for certain items in the Colonial days I think 4 sols would have been worth quite a bit more than $20. Losing $20 for us is nothing, but for them I think 4 Sols would have hurt. Given times are so different I'm not sure how easy it would be to figure that out, or make a good guess.

 

[Hunthicks]

Now I'd love to see one of those pop up!! Awesome find!

 

[Rick (Nova Scotia)]

1.6 grams of .798 Silver, comparred to spanish or US dollars would be "comparible" to half real, or half dime (1.35 grams of .892 Silver), call it 6 cents of silver if you like.

I'm sure inflation is different on different things, but here is an interesting page with prices from 1625.
17th Century Prices and Wages.
Take note of what 18 gallons of beer was worth, and where "A Fat pig, best in market" cost 1 Shilling 4D, or "about" 30 cents ! Pigs today sold by the pound, but would be at least 200 bucks. Please don't pick apart my math, this is rough, and if you choose another product you'll get different results. Just a thing in relativity, but neat to see some of those prices.

So if we base inflation on that pig that is now worth 660 times what it was then, the 5 or 6 cents worth of silver, becomes 35-40 bucks

 

[Iron Patch]

1.6 grams of .798 Silver, comparred to spanish or US dollars would be "comparible" to half real, or half dime (1.35 grams of .892 Silver), call it 6 cents of silver if you like.

I'm sure inflation is different on different things, but here is an interesting page with prices from 1625.
17th Century Prices and Wages.
Take note of what 18 gallons of beer was worth, and where "A Fat pig, best in market" cost 1 Shilling 4D, or "about" 30 cents ! Pigs today sold by the pound, but would be at least 200 bucks. Please don't pick apart my math, this is rough, and if you choose another product you'll get different results. Just a thing in relativity, but neat to see some of those prices.

So if we base inflation on that pig that is now worth 660 times what it was then, the 5 or 6 cents worth of silver, becomes 35-40 bucks

I see how you get there with the math, but I think the demand makes a huge difference. Today our suppliers have massive quantities but back then there was only so much. If I had to guess I'd bet it would be double or triple that amount.

 

[Rick (Nova Scotia)]

I see how you get there with the math, but I think the demand makes a huge difference. Today our suppliers have massive quantities but back then there was only so much. If I had to guess I'd bet it would be double or triple that amount.

Yes I agree. And I did the same sort of thing when I found my first 2R, trying to figure it's value in todays money / buying power. At the time I used bread for comparrison, and bread is bad to start with because the price fluctuated a lot with the luck of the wheat harvest. As I stated just something of interest. What I came up with "IS" why I agree with 2 to 3 times that.

Makes me realize just how much money I found the day of 2 X 2Rs

 

[Erik in NJ]

1.6 grams of .798 Silver, comparred to spanish or US dollars would be "comparible" to half real, or half dime (1.35 grams of .892 Silver), call it 6 cents of silver if you like.

So if we base inflation on that pig that is now worth 660 times what it was then, the 5 or 6 cents worth of silver, becomes 35-40 bucks

Sounds reasonable to me...good analysis. So a 4 Sol coin only contains as much silver as a 1/2 real? Anyone know it's diameter? I don't know the size of his coin, I was just trying to guess by the size of his fingers--unless he has very small hands (or I have very big hands) it looks to be about the size of a quarter to me.

 

[ironhorse]

Sounds reasonable to me...good analysis. So a 4 Sol coin only contains as much silver as a 1/2 real? Anyone know it's diameter? I don't know the size of his coin, I was just trying to guess by the size of his fingers--unless he has very small hands (or I have very big hands) it looks to be about the size of a quarter to me.

Without checking, I think it was the equivalent of the British 6 pence

 

[zaxfire69]

I want to find a silver coin like that! That is a great recovery! Congrats!

 

[FunWithTreasure]

Great digs. I would try to find where the top 12 inches of dirt went.

 

[Rick (Nova Scotia)]

Sounds reasonable to me...good analysis. So a 4 Sol coin only contains as much silver as a 1/2 real? Anyone know it's diameter? I don't know the size of his coin, I was just trying to guess by the size of his fingers--unless he has very small hands (or I have very big hands) it looks to be about the size of a quarter to me.

19mm, quite thin.
1/15 Ecu - Louis XIV - France - Kingdom - Numista

I stood beside a guy who dug one this year. One year newer, also in good shape.

 

[Erik in NJ]

19mm, quite thin.
1/15 Ecu - Louis XIV - France - Kingdom - Numista

I stood beside a guy who dug one this year. One year newer, also in good shape.

Thanks. So is there 24 shillings in a pound and how many pennies in a shilling? So a 4 Sol coin might be approximately the same size or a bit smaller than a William III six pence? The 1625 link is interesting, but I guess we need to calculate what the "theoretical" exchange rate of the pound to dollar would have been in those days. We can base the dollar on the weight in silver of an 8 real I guess. In other words how many English pennies does 6 cents equate to?

This entry made me laugh (yes I know it is/was a sausage or something like that):

One hundred faggots with carriage......3s