🥇 BANNER My Best Water Hunt 1804 AN12 A Napoleon Bonaparte Gold Coin Encircled in 14k Pendant

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Charged the Excal2 and said although I have so many chores to do home I have to try again and go back for the sixth time..
This hunt started different with the first target a small medal then a few coins and later this beautiful recovery.After a slow start this season my friends told me to keep trying and I would be rewarded
 

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Charged the Excal2 and said although I have so many chores to do home I have to try again and go back for the sixth time..
This hunt started different with the first target a small medal then a few coins and later this beautiful recovery.After a slow start this season my friends told me to keep trying and I would be rewarded
wow, very cool find and great save. she is a beauty, wtg
 

That is a great find Bill!
 

Charged the Excal2 and said although I have so many chores to do home I have to try again and go back for the sixth time..
This hunt started different with the first target a small medal then a few coins and later this beautiful recovery.After a slow start this season my friends told me to keep trying and I would be rewarded
Awesome!!! Congrats!!!
 

That is a great find Bill!
Thank You..this season started off with few recoveries which was not typical..I was told by my friends here to stay at it so on my sixth visit back I was rewarded
 

Thank You..this season started off with few recoveries which was not typical..I was told by my friends here to stay at it so on my sixth visit back I was rewarded
 

Charged the Excal2 and said although I have so many chores to do home I have to try again and go back for the sixth time..
This hunt started different with the first target a small medal then a few coins and later this beautiful recovery.After a slow start this season my friends told me to keep trying and I would be rewarded
Outstanding Find...!:icon_thumright:

....(has anyone been able to nominate this lucky guy, the Banner Award...?)
 

Sadly, I have to say that I am suspicious of the authenticity of the coin. The unnatural surface appearance caused me to take a closer look and I think that the serif on the cross-bar of the digit 4 gives it away. Here’s an authentic example together with an enlargement of the 4 alongside that from your coin.

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4 comparison.webp


On all authentic examples of this type that I have seen (irrespective of date and mint) that serif has an ‘up-tick’ at the end but not also a ‘down-tick’, as seen on yours.

In the 1970s there was an influx of counterfeits from both the Middle East and from Eastern Europe. Those were generally produced in gold, with the profit derived from their additional perceived numismatic value. Later fakes originating from China were gold plated but on a tungsten alloy core such that they were both the correct weight and also passed the magnet test as well as any surface metal chemical test. To me it looks like one of the latter.

Just my opinion, of course.
 

Here's something in a similar setting which claims to be an Atocha 4 real. I don't think so! There ain't nothing 'real' about that in my opinion.

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Currently on fleabay with a 'buy-it-now' of $1,100

The great thing about this one is that it comes with a Mel Fisher certificate of authenticity. The poblem is that the certificate is for a silver ingot (pictured on the left side of the certificate) and not for a 4 real coin! Caveat emptor.

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Wow...I do see that 4...not sure what to think bill....still an incredible find...hope its gold....I still like my banner vote !!
 

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