National Seashore hunting PRIVELEGED FEW

[midas888gold]

Was at Nauset Light Beach (National Seashore) on the Cape yesterday morning.

Saw a guy metal detecting on the beach. I thought the National Seashore was off limits to metal detectors.

I approached the guy, to see what he was finding. As I got closer I noticed he was wearing a NS Ranger uniform. What's up with that? I struck up a conversation, he showed me a couple gold rings and lots of coins. I said I've never seen anyone else with a metal detector on this beach.
He was very talkative and mentioned that he hits the NS beaches every day before work and that he finds a lot because he has the beaches to himself. I asked "what do you mean?" He stated that metal detectors are prohibited from NS property, but because he works for the Park Service, he can hunt the beaches with no problem. and I quote "Which is good for me, more stuff to find"

I left without saying anything and called the NS office. The person I spoke to confirmed what he had said. Metal Detectors are prohibited except by special permission from the park supervisor (to find a lost valuable, etc.), which obviously this park ranger has.

SO, the priveleged few can hunt places that the general public can not!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess I should get a job with the park service!!!!!!!!!

 

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[lowtones]

i would not rat him out . if he gets permission all the power to him. Its who you know and some where in our lifes we all know someone for something don.t we?
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I see lots of reflection here on the "law". That is the real problem. There is no law regarding the use of metal detectors on the beaches of the National Parks. Only operative regulations and managerial mandates by NON-ELECTED authority given the power to make these decisions. A prime example of the morose danger where under-paid bureaucrats have too much discretionary power.

In Florida State Parks adjoining open sea, Florida has realized that metal detecting, in and of itself, is not an activity designed to "loot national historic resources" (paraphrasing from the social elites claiming they know what is best for the wealth of archaeologist, no matter what the rest of us landless and luckless sheep have to say about it). In other words, they see that a jury would find these restrictions silly and money would be wasted in court.

If you think that the Federal regulations are worth while, then the ranger needs to be tarred. I think that the mere fact I can not use my metal detector for my own amusement at the seashore, which I OWN, is the real problem. The NPS is the root of this problem. Its the master of the house, not the butler which deserves your attention.

 

[Digthis2]

MIDAS888Gold - Did you get the "ranger's" name ? The guy may have been a summer janitor or beach attendent and not really one of the enforcement rangers - they all wear the same uniform more or less. If you want to email the national seashore ranger in charge I am sure he'd look into it (even though it's been awhile). If you go to the national seashore website (look up Cape Cod NS at www.nps.gov there is a link for contacts and comments).

I've been in several meetings about hunting at the national seashore and the chief ranger is definately a straight shooter and would not tolerate this. To back up what some others have posted this is just like a game warden poaching, and I know the chief ranger would put a stop to it in a heartbeat. It's not a perk.

 

[Painter65]

Was at Nauset Light Beach (National Seashore) on the Cape yesterday morning.

Saw a guy metal detecting on the beach. I thought the National Seashore was off limits to metal detectors.

I approached the guy, to see what he was finding. As I got closer I noticed he was wearing a NS Ranger uniform. What's up with that? I struck up a conversation, he showed me a couple gold rings and lots of coins. I said I've never seen anyone else with a metal detector on this beach.
He was very talkative and mentioned that he hits the NS beaches every day before work and that he finds a lot because he has the beaches to himself. I asked "what do you mean?" He stated that metal detectors are prohibited from NS property, but because he works for the Park Service, he can hunt the beaches with no problem. and I quote "Which is good for me, more stuff to find"

I left without saying anything and called the NS office. The person I spoke to confirmed what he had said. Metal Detectors are prohibited except by special permission from the park supervisor (to find a lost valuable, etc.), which obviously this park ranger has.

SO, the priveleged few can hunt places that the general public can not!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess I should get a job with the park service!!!!!!!!!

Having worked for the Park Service myself for over 20yrs. I can tell you that is complete BS in the first degree!!!!!!!

 

[FLauthor]

It might not be right but its FEDERAL LAW which spells BIG FINE, Bad PR for all detectorist and loss of your detector and maybe your car. I work for Disney World and one of my fellow Security officers tried to buck Disney's Policy of having a GUN on Disney Property locked in his car. He was Class "G" licensed plus a concealed weapons permit and he tried to act like a District Attorney and lost his job of 13 years. There aren't too many areas that pay you $15.00/hour to be a Security Officer and he had just topped out and lost it all. Even though the Federal Government and State Government says its OK to have a gun in your car in the glove compartment or trunk but Disney is exempt because they have Fireworks on their property. I used to have a pistol in my glove but not anymore. I'm 6 years from retirement but I have my ice pick and Machete and a Big Brute Scoop. There are plenty of TH'ing sites in Florida that won't land you in Federal court. I sell a book called Where to Metal Detect in Central Florida at Kellyco if you need some sites.

 

[47thelement]

I'm kinda new around here so I hope this doesn't tick anybody off, and no I don't work for the gov't.

I can't believe some of you haven't shorted out your computer with all the tears you are crying! Man up! Do some research, find another site. This guy is lazy.

You will reap the benefits of your hard work.

 

[Harry_Morant]

Who will benefit from you complaining about it - nobody thats who!

If it all blows out of proportion with 'rights this' and 'rights that' and some poor ranger gets sacked then nothing will change for you except that Rangers or other Govt employees may just make life even harder for MD'ers where previously they were happy to come over for a chat. Rather than getting him sacked why not strike up a conversation with the guy about detecting. I've had more local park officals, workers and Rangers give me suggestions of good places to detect than I ever have had negative conversations.

Who knows, maybe his supervisor gave him permission in order that he could remove rubbish, needles etc - that would certainly be in keeping with his job wouldn't it and the coins etc are just a bonus. You just don't know. Film crews, photographs, civil rights - oh please, lighten up.