Need help to id my finds!!!

[mummytrol]

Hello dear friends!!! Need help to id some of my finds!!! Thanks for your help!!! Mummytrol!!!

 

[GoldieLocks]

The tag looks like it went with a, "Smith" gun. Maybe before the company was called, "Smith and Wesson?"

 

[Retired Sarge]

454 is a caliber IE 454 Casull. So I wonder if it's just an ID/key tag for a person named E Smith and his gun case key.

The brass things on the ring, is driving me nuts. I feel I've seen them somewhere before. But damn if I can place them. At times I think they are hammers or disconnectors for a firearm, then I think tumblers for a mortise lock.

 

[ticndig]

Antique lock levers

 

[Retired Sarge]

Antique lock levers View attachment 1871706

Great ID ticndig, glad that one is solved, it was driving me nuts.

 

[ticndig]

Thanks, It was driving me nuts as well , I've seen them on here before , even so it was hard to place it to an item.

 

[mummytrol]

Thanks for your answers!!!! Any ideas about that coat of arms metal plate? Mummytrol!!!

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I think your 454 E. Smith tag is a shop tag. 454 was probably his employee number. In the old days that helped tell who was in the plant prior to a time clock punch card.



The shield button is interesting. It looks like a rod of Asclepius (Romans "borrowed" it later for the caduceus of Mercury) under a rolling pin? Asclepius was the god of medicine - how used by physicians/doctors.

 

[Red-Coat]

The shield button is interesting. It looks like a rod of Asclepius (Romans "borrowed" it later for the caduceus of Mercury) under a rolling pin? Asclepius was the god of medicine - how used by physicians/doctors.

That was my take too. The fleur de lis made me think it might be some kind of scouting activity badge. They sometimes have strange combinations of imagery. I've seen badges with rolling pins on them that relate to 'cookie sale' for fund raising but I struggle to see any connection between cookery and medicine/health care, except from a nutrition standpoint. The Rod of Asclepius is unmistakable, but I don't know of anything 'medical' that might be mistaken for a rolling pin.

 

[Retired Sarge]

I think your 454 E. Smith tag is a shop tag. 454 was probably his employee number. In the old days that helped tell who was in the plant prior to a time clock punch card.

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The shield button is interesting. It looks like a rod of Asclepius (Romans "borrowed" it later for the caduceus of Mercury) under a rolling pin? Asclepius was the god of medicine - how used by physicians/doctors.

Thought the same thing, but the revolver on the bottom didn't seem to fit that ideal for me. Could very well be a shop tag.

 

[Retired Sarge]

That was my take too. The fleur de lis made me think it might be some kind of scouting activity badge. They sometimes have strange combinations of imagery. I've seen badges with rolling pins on them that relate to 'cookie sale' for fund raising but I struggle to see any connection between cookery and medicine/health care, except from a nutrition standpoint. The Rod of Asclepius is unmistakable, but I don't know of anything 'medical' that might be mistaken for a rolling pin.

Could the rolling pin thing (Thought it was one myself) maybe be a depiction of a scroll?

 

[mummytrol]

Maybe a medical school Mummytrol! Or pharmacy

 

[Goodyguy]

I'm thinking the E.Smith tag could have been a gun locker key tag perhaps to a gun locker in a police station.