πŸ₯‡ BANNER Originally posted on the "What Is It" board for an ID .. This is crazy!

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I was trying out my new Legend today and found this coin. It was identified by Red-Coat as being a 4 dinero coin of Henry III (1390-1406). Kingdom of Castile and Leon (Spanish states). How it ended up in the fields of Central Virginia is a mystery to me.
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Outstanding find Sir. Truly unique [for America]
Agreed, not seen or heard of one coming out.
Thanks.

Given the nature of trading relationships between European countries, Spanish and other coins from this period turn up from time to time. But this particular coin, although not inherently rare, is relatively obscure and would be an unusual find here.
Incredible!
Congrats on the super find! We all hope one day to find something as amazing as that! ;-)
Thank you all. :hello:
 

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Creskol.... um.......... First... i am late to this... i have busier that a madman with a plan.
IF in fact... which i assume you are serious.
Um.......... you should be in contact with Smithsonian immediately.

This coin is um..... a MAJOR historical find... especially IF it can...AND SHOULD,,, be carbon dated.
This coin should not get cleaned.
Dont touch it except from sides.
Dont even look at it wrong.

I thin you may have just found not only the most significant find in the history of TreasureNet...
But quite possibly North America.
Should keep in mind that finding β€œout of place” coins happens. It does not mean we will have to rewrite the history of the Americas….

But, some researchers have leaned that way just the same:

β€œThe Coincidence of the Coins:

 

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Should keep in mind that finding β€œout of place” coins happens. It does not mean we will have to rewrite the history of the Americas….

But, some researchers have leaned that way just the same:

β€œThe Coincidence of the Coins:

Yes... this is common knowledge.
What is not is...
This was partly a "joke" heh
Guess i should have d-leted it... like i normally do.

See Creskol.... arent you glad you did not use a screwdriver to retrieve this... :P
 

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congratulations on the banner worthy coin , you always find things other only dream about.
 

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I was trying out my new Legend today and found this coin. It was identified by Red-Coat as being a 4 dinero coin of Henry III (1390-1406). Kingdom of Castile and Leon (Spanish states). How it ended up in the fields of Central Virginia is a mystery to me. View attachment 2081482 View attachment 2081483
Regardless of the significance of the find..you have my respect for the 50+ years of pursuing the learning of history (SHARING), and chasing the possibility of real treasure. It is a real possibility as far as I’m concerned, ESPECIALLY for the introverts (those that recharge from detecting a few hundred square feet by themselves with headphones on).
 

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What are your thoughts on doing an aggressive cleaning on this one since it isn't in great shape and isn't worth a whole lot?
I too would clean it. I just found a 1728 king george half pence, and had i not cleaned it, i would have never been able to identify it
 

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Congrats!! :icon_thumright::icon_thumleft:
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When I looked into this sites say, "Enrique III" not Henry III or this Henry is ",of" Castile not Wales/Great Britain. Thus, not the identical monarch family members in England whom lived 500-800 years earlier in time.
See: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces122739.html

I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

Look again at the link you provided. At the top of the page, the title reads "Enrique III" which is how the Spanish would refer to him. Then look at the blue box headed "Features" and you will see "Henry III" which is the usual way he's referred to in English language catalogues. "Henry" is just the Anglicised equivalent of his name "Enrique".

In the same way, we usually refer to "Felipe" as "Philip" "Carlos" as "Charles"; "Wilhelm" as "William", "Friedrich" as "Frederick" and other Anglicisations of foreign names.
 

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A jeweler friend of mine has been trying to clean this coin without destroying all the patina. Here are a few shots of the finished product. Maybe there is enough detail to help make a definitive ID.
 

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