afreakofnature
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Being that I live quite far from prospecting most of the year and I know we all have the winter blues when it comes to panning, I have set forth to find all that offer paydirt for sale. I am going to start a website that will show how much gold ones gets (in grams) vs amount paid and lbs of dirt received. I belive that if one is going to pay a large some for these they better get at least their monies worth, otherwise these people are just "mining the miners." Before I venture on this quest I have put together a list, after extensive research, companines/people who sell onine and people who sell via phone or email. I want to run this list out to all of you to see if I have missed anybody. When I am back in the the house for the fall I will begin to order and process the material the same way every time. My method will be to first classify to 1/8 of an inch everything above that I will pan out, everything under that I will do what I pasted below:
A.) Dry out the gold by pouring it into a metal pan and heating it over a hotplate outside. Don't get it so hot that any pieces of lead which are still with the gold will melt. Heat it up just hot enough to dry it out. It is a good idea to stay upwind anytime you put gold in a pan and heat it up. Mercury attaches itself to gold in different amounts. Often it's there but you can't see it. When heating the gold to certain temperature, the mercury vaporizes off. These vapors are very dangerous. So it is good practice to heat your gold outside and downwind of you, even when heating it up just enough to dry it out. Also, the pan you use for heating up gold during cleanup should be used only to cleanup, not for cooking.
B.) Once the gold is dry, we begin the process of getting out the black sands. Using a 16lb pull magnet. First dump some of the cons into a small dish, but the magnet over it and shake the magnet up in the square pan, then put the magnet over this container and drop the black sands, repeat this same process again in the 2nd dish with the new black sands. Everytime you do this in a new container you are breaking up the black sands releasing the gold, do this in about 6 different dishes until you get very clean black sand. Do not discard the black sand yet, this will be use later in the wheel. Combine the non black sands in one square pan for the wheel later too. You can now pick out the larger gold with tweezers. Then use the sieves to super classify your material and keep separate in pans or jars for use on the wheel. Use the sieves too to super classify your clean black sands as well.
4.)Now Use Your Wheel
It is very important to go through the above steps before attempting to use your wheel to process your non black sand and black sand super concentrates from above. Remember, the wheel works on the principles of weight, angle (pitch), and water-flow. The first separation should be done using your wheel's fastest speed if you have a variable speed wheel at a 45 degree angle. This split will take a little time. At this stage, you'll want to pull the black sands and gold from the blonde sands. It's okay if a small portions of black sand are still there your magnet might not have got all of them
When running the wheel it will pack just like the riffles of a dredge. When this occurs, for better results, you can spoon material from the bottom of the wheel up onto the riffles. We also seem to get better results by spooning material onto the drier section of the wheel so that it passes into the flow of water as the wheel turns. Watch yourself very closely because this is the step where many of the larger flat flakes are lost simply by scooping the material out of the wheel too soon. Once complete, you should find that you have cut your material in half or more.
Now you should have what we call salt and pepper sand and gold. If you have only black sands at this point, you have probably lost some of the finer gold already. Look closely; and if this is the case, stop, back up and rerun it again. Remember, the wheel will only recover as well as the skill of the operator permits. So take your time and make sure you're not losing your fines at each stage of the process. Make sure to dump the center hole material into separate pans to run again so you do not have to reclassify through the sieves wet.
Round 2. This time you'll only have half as much material so it will go very fast. Now it's time to tackle the material from the center hole. When using a variable speed wheel, this time it should be processed at the slowest speed, and the pitch of the wheel should be set at a steeper angle. Use a moderate-to-slow water flow, adjusting the wheel to pull just a little black sand, and all the gold. Once you've run it through, simply adjust the wheel a bit steeper and rerun this gold-laden material once more, only this time just pull the gold.
This process will leave you with all your gold, and perhaps just a very very small amount of fine black sand. I find that if you dry this final product, it is very easy to blow the remaining black sand of by sorting through it on a clean piece of paper and blowing gently with dry snuffer bottle. It is a nice way to end your day!
5.)Dry it out and weigh it.
Not only will I give a review and a worth on my website, but I also will allow other users to state their comments too for each company or person. For now here is a list of who I found that sells PayDirt, please add to this list if I have missed anyone and again in the Fall I will start the reviews. Thank you in advance to all you will help me fill in some people I missed or advice on how to make it better.
People/Companies selling PayDirt:
Jim Miller www.panningpaydirt.com
Felix Paydirt Gourmet Gold www.felixpaydirt.com
R and R www.rrpaydirt.com
Prospector John www.goldpan-alaska.com
Gold Adventures www.goldadventures.biz
Gold Fever Prospecting www.goldfeverprospecting.com/goldpanning.html
Gold Getters www.goldgetters.net
Alaska Discount Gold (could be the same owners of Felix) http://www.alaskadiscountgold.com/
Crisson Gold Mine http://www.crissongoldmine.com/
Tom and Perry’s Golden Dirt Bag http://www.goldprospectors.org/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_27&products_id=27
CMJ Mining http://www.cmjmining.com/
Gold and Gem Grubbin http://www.goldngem.com/
Arizona Gold Fever http://www.arizona-gold-fever.com/
Ebay sellers that over 100 feebacks and alot on paydirt
Jandjprospecting1998 http://www.jandjgoldprospecting.biz/
steepcanyonpaydirt
whiskey_petes_gold www.whiskeypetesgold.com
ljaprospecting
tsclover345678
ron0346
jbiadventures
sundancegoldmine
jarhtay
prospectorruss
goldfeverusa
g-manthebossman
idgold25
knicks2525
treasure_valley_minerals
atomicbear
smaprospecting
jckesl
931lovemusic
alaskadredgeman
Not online
Nome Alaska Gold Concentrate, LLC oldgoldmel@charter.net 1-877-6663465
DreaMail-GP, P.O. Box 1790, Fairview, NC 28730 (write for information)
J. Wammack P.O. Box 2263, Bentonville, AR 72712 (write for information)
B. Sullins P.O. Box 1031, Meadview, AZ 86444 479-220-7754
Azplacergold@aol.com (email for prices and ordering)
A.) Dry out the gold by pouring it into a metal pan and heating it over a hotplate outside. Don't get it so hot that any pieces of lead which are still with the gold will melt. Heat it up just hot enough to dry it out. It is a good idea to stay upwind anytime you put gold in a pan and heat it up. Mercury attaches itself to gold in different amounts. Often it's there but you can't see it. When heating the gold to certain temperature, the mercury vaporizes off. These vapors are very dangerous. So it is good practice to heat your gold outside and downwind of you, even when heating it up just enough to dry it out. Also, the pan you use for heating up gold during cleanup should be used only to cleanup, not for cooking.
B.) Once the gold is dry, we begin the process of getting out the black sands. Using a 16lb pull magnet. First dump some of the cons into a small dish, but the magnet over it and shake the magnet up in the square pan, then put the magnet over this container and drop the black sands, repeat this same process again in the 2nd dish with the new black sands. Everytime you do this in a new container you are breaking up the black sands releasing the gold, do this in about 6 different dishes until you get very clean black sand. Do not discard the black sand yet, this will be use later in the wheel. Combine the non black sands in one square pan for the wheel later too. You can now pick out the larger gold with tweezers. Then use the sieves to super classify your material and keep separate in pans or jars for use on the wheel. Use the sieves too to super classify your clean black sands as well.
4.)Now Use Your Wheel
It is very important to go through the above steps before attempting to use your wheel to process your non black sand and black sand super concentrates from above. Remember, the wheel works on the principles of weight, angle (pitch), and water-flow. The first separation should be done using your wheel's fastest speed if you have a variable speed wheel at a 45 degree angle. This split will take a little time. At this stage, you'll want to pull the black sands and gold from the blonde sands. It's okay if a small portions of black sand are still there your magnet might not have got all of them
When running the wheel it will pack just like the riffles of a dredge. When this occurs, for better results, you can spoon material from the bottom of the wheel up onto the riffles. We also seem to get better results by spooning material onto the drier section of the wheel so that it passes into the flow of water as the wheel turns. Watch yourself very closely because this is the step where many of the larger flat flakes are lost simply by scooping the material out of the wheel too soon. Once complete, you should find that you have cut your material in half or more.
Now you should have what we call salt and pepper sand and gold. If you have only black sands at this point, you have probably lost some of the finer gold already. Look closely; and if this is the case, stop, back up and rerun it again. Remember, the wheel will only recover as well as the skill of the operator permits. So take your time and make sure you're not losing your fines at each stage of the process. Make sure to dump the center hole material into separate pans to run again so you do not have to reclassify through the sieves wet.
Round 2. This time you'll only have half as much material so it will go very fast. Now it's time to tackle the material from the center hole. When using a variable speed wheel, this time it should be processed at the slowest speed, and the pitch of the wheel should be set at a steeper angle. Use a moderate-to-slow water flow, adjusting the wheel to pull just a little black sand, and all the gold. Once you've run it through, simply adjust the wheel a bit steeper and rerun this gold-laden material once more, only this time just pull the gold.
This process will leave you with all your gold, and perhaps just a very very small amount of fine black sand. I find that if you dry this final product, it is very easy to blow the remaining black sand of by sorting through it on a clean piece of paper and blowing gently with dry snuffer bottle. It is a nice way to end your day!
5.)Dry it out and weigh it.
Not only will I give a review and a worth on my website, but I also will allow other users to state their comments too for each company or person. For now here is a list of who I found that sells PayDirt, please add to this list if I have missed anyone and again in the Fall I will start the reviews. Thank you in advance to all you will help me fill in some people I missed or advice on how to make it better.
People/Companies selling PayDirt:
Jim Miller www.panningpaydirt.com
Felix Paydirt Gourmet Gold www.felixpaydirt.com
R and R www.rrpaydirt.com
Prospector John www.goldpan-alaska.com
Gold Adventures www.goldadventures.biz
Gold Fever Prospecting www.goldfeverprospecting.com/goldpanning.html
Gold Getters www.goldgetters.net
Alaska Discount Gold (could be the same owners of Felix) http://www.alaskadiscountgold.com/
Crisson Gold Mine http://www.crissongoldmine.com/
Tom and Perry’s Golden Dirt Bag http://www.goldprospectors.org/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_27&products_id=27
CMJ Mining http://www.cmjmining.com/
Gold and Gem Grubbin http://www.goldngem.com/
Arizona Gold Fever http://www.arizona-gold-fever.com/
Ebay sellers that over 100 feebacks and alot on paydirt
Jandjprospecting1998 http://www.jandjgoldprospecting.biz/
steepcanyonpaydirt
whiskey_petes_gold www.whiskeypetesgold.com
ljaprospecting
tsclover345678
ron0346
jbiadventures
sundancegoldmine
jarhtay
prospectorruss
goldfeverusa
g-manthebossman
idgold25
knicks2525
treasure_valley_minerals
atomicbear
smaprospecting
jckesl
931lovemusic
alaskadredgeman
Not online
Nome Alaska Gold Concentrate, LLC oldgoldmel@charter.net 1-877-6663465
DreaMail-GP, P.O. Box 1790, Fairview, NC 28730 (write for information)
J. Wammack P.O. Box 2263, Bentonville, AR 72712 (write for information)
B. Sullins P.O. Box 1031, Meadview, AZ 86444 479-220-7754
Azplacergold@aol.com (email for prices and ordering)
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