Please Help with Chain I.D.

Beep'n

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I found this chain detecting in a wash in Arizona. I would like to know what it is and how old it is?

Its 12 inches long and about 1/2 inch wide.
Its Not magnetic, possibly brass.
I dont see any markings on it.
The ends have rivets, but no material was attached to it when I dug it.
Looks like a decorative piece to me.

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks
 

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Cool find Ill tell ya when I worked in AZ that dirt was like cement had to get it wet then hit it with a pick just to start a trench burying electrical conduit.
 

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That's a possibility. I could see that attached to a boot.
 

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From a fancy boot?

Luckily in the wash it wasn't too bad. I could dig with my trowel. Glad I didn't break it. I wasn't expecting that to come out of the ground.
 

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Luckily in the wash it wasn't too bad. I could dig with my trowel. Glad I didn't break it. I wasn't expecting that to come out of the ground.
 

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Welcome Beep'n, nice find. Perhaps an ornate spur strap or a hat band. Any idea what the material is?
 

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Welcome Beep'n, nice find. Perhaps an ornate spur strap or a hat band. Any idea what the material is?

Its not magnetic. I think its brass.
 

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That type chain is/was called 'bookchain'. Popular @ the turn of the 20th C. Used for watch chains, fraternal sword belts, even women's fashion jewelry.

antique-victorian-gold-filled-brass_1_ca862fed0563ebababf93e5d846540de.jpg
 

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That type chain is/was called 'bookchain'. Popular @ the turn of the 20th C. Used for watch chains, fraternal sword belts, even women's fashion jewelry.

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Thanks DCMatt, I can do some more searching with that info.
 

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IMO it seems too heavy for a watch chain. I'll go with fraternal sword hanger. Early 20th C.

scabbard chain.JPG
 

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IMO it seems too heavy for a watch chain. I'll go with fraternal sword hanger. Early 20th C.

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Agreed..Too heavy for a watch..I looked at some "Bookchain" photos after seeing your previous post..very helpful by the way, thanks...I found some decorative cowboy boot chains that were somewhat similar...Sword hanger is one I didnt think of.
 

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Agreed..Too heavy for a watch..I looked at some "Bookchain" photos after seeing your previous post..very helpful by the way, thanks...I found some decorative cowboy boot chains that were somewhat similar...Sword hanger is one I didnt think of.

I was thinking it was too long for a boot chain. But I happen to be wearing my boots today so I measured. It would take a 15 inch chain to go around my boot.

I'll go with 'boot chain'...
 

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Researching something else today and it occurred to me that this could be off a shako. That would explain the rivets on each end...

I looked for a little while but did not find a good match.
 

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Researching something else today and it occurred to me that this could be off a shako. That would explain the rivets on each end...

I looked for a little while but did not find a good match.

Hey DCMatt, thanks for looking and the tip. I wasnt sure what a Shako was...well at least I didnt know those hats were called that...I learned something new today. That could be a possibility. Its a hard one to find because there isnt any marks on the piece to help identify it. I looked through images of Shako's but couldnt find one that matched. It sure looks like it could go on one of those hats.
 

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