Possible discodial?

[chrishavoc]

I picked this up after a recent flood while hunting rocks. I believe it is a discodial, but I'm not sure. None have been found locally that I am aware of, and I haven't seen one in person. Most examples I have seen are polished stone. I welcome any and all opinions on a possible id!
South MS

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[The Grim Reaper]

If it is one it is made a of a strange material and is very rough. It has the shape, but that is only thing I see in it's favor as a true Disc.

 

[chrishavoc]

The cupped edges are what caught my eye. The material seems to some kind of sandstone...possibly baked? We have alot of natural sandstone here that was utilized by natives, but nothing quite like this has been found to my knowledge. Thanks for your insight Grimm!

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[arrow86]

Sure is different looking Iv never personally found one so not going off much here but would it be unusually thick for one? .... By the way nice points in the first pic

 

[Charl]

Well, certainly in your first photo, where it's seen with the points, it does look the part. It's got the right shape, and it does look cupped, and ground where it's cupped. I don't know enough about discoidals to know if it's too thick. Perhaps it was never finished, as in ground smooth on the sides. We do see natural rocks here all the time, that are mistaken for artifacts. Here, despite the rough sides, it's a little more difficult for me to see this as a natural stone. But, I am otherwise stumped.

 

[joshuaream]

It reminds me of some of the fossil river bone I've seen in Florida. There are some different types of lipping/cupping that can show up on bone fossils.

 

[chrishavoc]

I appreciate the input! We are still stumped as well.
I took a few more photos in the sunlight. I've been slowly quizzing a few local collectors to see if anything of this material has been found by anyone else, but to no avail.
I do believe it is man made, and I want to believe it's native, but for now it will get a question mark.

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[joshuaream]

The second set of pictures makes me think it's not bone, almost looks like pottery. Are there pebbles in it?

 

[chrishavoc]

Yes. There are small "pebbles" throughout, and does appear to have been baked. But its unlike any other pottery shards found at the site.

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[reuellis]

I think it is a core drilled out of the sandstone before they put in dynamite to blast the rock.

 

[rock]

I think it is a core drilled out of the sandstone before they put in dynamite to blast the rock.

Im thinking along these lines to. Its to thick but isnt thick or long enough to be anything that I can think of.

 

[arrow86]

I think it is a core drilled out of the sandstone before they put in dynamite to blast the rock.

First thing I thought was drill core as well ... Here's a pic as an example of what I was thinking ....

 

[Charl]

Would a core have one end with a collar and a smooth recessed area?? Just wondering, not too familiar with what the end of a core would look like. Of course, if it's pottery, then it could not be a core anyway, so one key to any solution is what it is made of.....

FWIW, some ceramic discoidals....

https://peachstatearchaeologicalsociety.org/index.php/22-game-stones/145-ceramic-discoidals

 

[newnan man]

Core drill sounds good. Also solids from the inside of an old pipe of some kind. There was a quarry where I grew up that had a lot of similar stuff from hose & pipes used to wash gravel/limestone etc.

 

[chrishavoc]

Great article Charl, thanks for the information!
As for the drill core theory; it makes sense, except there is no solid rock to blast through in this area. It's all clay, sand, and gravel. I would have to travel at least 100 miles north to find rock big and thick enough to require dynamite. I appreciate the help on thinking this out!

I have a friend who works in the geology field. I am going to send him a few pictures and see if I can get the material identified.

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[mn9000]

It looks to have a mixture of small aggregate stone pebbles in it though

 

[chrishavoc]

It looks to have a mixture of small aggregate stone pebbles in it though



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Yes it does. It looks similar to crushed sandstone, but I am no expert when it comes to these things. I just enjoy picking up pointy rocks!

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[mn9000]

I don't think anything that soft & porous would need to be blasted. Could be wrong but I'd think a backhoe could dig through that with ease.

 

[arrow86]

Sometimes there drilled for other reasons besides blasting ..... Perhaps just ground samples or maybe some of them crazy gold diggers are to blame lol

 

[chrishavoc]

Sometimes there drilled for other reasons besides blasting ..... Perhaps just ground samples or maybe some of them crazy gold diggers are to blame lol

This is possible. There have been test wells drilled for oil and natural gas in the area. Hopefully once the material is identified, we will get some answers!

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