Re: Question the concept that 'ore' can be the only proof of the Lost Dutchmans Mine
GuLLY GUUUULLY GUUUUUULLYY WHEEEEEEEEZER """""Sticks and Stones""""" "Ancient ones is Talkin to YA" "I respect your reasons for the ore, but put another way....If someone produced ore that verified as LDM,
yet the mine itself had none of the clues other than the Needle to the South, would credit be given that this
is the mine?
None of the versions of how the Dutchman came upon this mine suggest he found a vein, he
came upon a mine that was being worked. Adolph Ruth knew the Sombrero and LDM were one in the same.
The Mexicans knew the mine contained Gold, that is why they gave him 'detailed' instructions/maps.
The Dutchman clues, re-told over the years, have not produced the mine because his clues are too vague. If
one spent the research time on the Indians and Mexicans history of the Sombrero site, one would find the 'details of clues,
markers, symbols' are more specific and detailed versus the LDM. If the Sombrero mine is located, and the clues
for that site fit, and all the Dutchman clues fit as well, the 'ore' will only prove there is still gold left.
The Horsehead/Sphynx are one in the same 500 yds. N of the mine across a gully. Below the mine ledge are 3
large stones: 1 shaped like a Cresent(East end), 100 ft. W is a Traingle shaped rock, 100 ft. S of this is a rock
shaped like a circle. The three form a triangle. These 3 large stones sit on top of flat stones and these were not
done by nature. East of the Cresent stone(between the Horsehead and mine, still below the ledge) are 4 large
flat stones with a smaller stone placed on top. These form a line pointing to the mine. Above the mine is a
cave at the base of a cliff. 30 ft. in front are 3 triangle shaped rocks, 1 perched on top of the other 2. Are these
known clues? Sure. But what if someone could give exact details, ft. or yd. distances of these clues, photos,
maybe even unknown clues like shaft symbols carved in the wall, concealled shafts, tailings piles? If one could
prove this is the Sombrero Mine, which has the 'documented' maps and clues, in detail, the clues told by others
that visited the site, 'ore' would not be needed to prove it. You can see the Apache/Military Trail from the mine,
sun setting to the West, Needle to the South, Hole in a crevice behind Bush on 12' ledge. Want more?
There is no exemption of acres set aside, no Senator with a plan. I am not aware of any Dutchhunter website or
group willing to do anything other than to discourage or require someone to produce 'ore', which is about gold
and not claiming a discovery of a mine. The history of this mine is easy to prove, the clues well documented and
detailed. The clues and maps to the site lead to the same place.
If someone had the photos, locations, symbols, markers, trails, clues of the Indians, Mexicans, Adolph Ruths
Mexican maps and directions/trail symbols leading to this site, NO Dutchman clues, would 'ore' be required to
verify this as the Peraltas Sombrero Mine? No.
I understand the 'requirement' to verify the LDM vein, but proving the documented history of the site must come
from many sources, ore can be one.
Please don't take my words harsh, been under alot of stress
B" Quoted By Ancient Ones
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im sure of one thing you will get some gold to see and to hold. Regardless of that "fact," Ive said before that was a fantastic defense for over 100 years, before the Todays Days Of 3D Google Earth And it worked very well for proof to be proven. However we are now living in a new world of high tech advancement including artificial intellegence, people especially kids, are smarter than ever. "You can play your 100 year old old timers tune of show me the ore
I can tell the different types pretty well but am still very much a student in geology. So my opinion is not going to help prove the case for CNN, you need a qualified geologist. I would suggest Tom Kollenborn. I sure would love to see photos of your gold ore (if your site really ever had any) but you don't need to put any in my hand. No one ever trusts me enough to be putting their gold into my hands anyway! 
. The burden of proof is in YOUR hands Mr. Kemm - it amazes me that an intelligent person can't fathom or refuses to accept that simple scientific concept.
