If a guy calling himself Earth calls one of RangerTell's swingy thingies an "ion detector", that means that ion propulsion systems used by spacecraft prove ...... how was that line of reasoning again?
I dropped my cellphone on my foot. That proves LRL's work. You may not like that line of reasoning, but it's better than the one you and Earth are bandying about!
Back in the Yocum Era, there was a dispute over whether his LRL would perform as advertised. I posted that it would indeed perform as advertised, and could any LRL fans do the same? After a week or so of no LRL fans up to the challenge (well actually as I recall Vincent took a shot at one of the claims, gotta give the guy credit), I quoted the claims from the advertisement and pointed out that those were claims that could easily be proven without recourse to any mysterious disputable nonsense. One of the claims could be proved by pushing the gizmo over the transom of a boat on Lake Mead.
So in this case, what's being claimed?
http://www.emagcloud.com/nzenjuly12/INFRA_June_Web/index.html#/28/
A contract locating company in NZ claims they have a new "ion detection" thing that they use to do locates that are difficult or impossible to achieve with more conventional equipment, the latter of which they describe. Since they seemingly don't want anyone to know what their "ion detection" thing is but are making fairy tale like claims for what it can do, all we have to go on is the possibility that they are reinventing the Mineoro fairy tale. There is zero evidence to support their claim, and furthermore since they haven't said what their "ion detection" actually is, they've made it impossible to say
specifically what they're claiming. It's a fairy tale. And, in the contract locating business, I predict it won't last long!
Then there's this whole other thing of a guy posting here (or at least implying? I haven't gone back to read the find details) that the company uses a Vektra. So far no evidence that this is the case: on the contrary, the fact that the company refers to "ion detection" (something not associated with RangerTell) strongly suggests that the company does NOT use a Vektra.
Then there's the claim by Earth that the Vektra is an ion detector. This contradicts the manufacturer of the Vektra who is probably insulted at being lumped together with the Mineoro fraud which isn't even a swingy thingy. How odd that Art is now jumping on the "ion detection" bandwagon!
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I'm still trying to figure out what on earth (maybe Earth_ can enlighten us?) what the heck happened with that contract locating company to post an ad like that. Here's a theory.
Someone in the company hears about LRL's, possibly from a purveyor of such. The purveyor quickly figures out that the company guy is clueless about this stuff, so the purveyor makes a bunch of claims regarding what some LRL gizmo can achieve in underground infrastructure locating. (We're obviously talking a really expensive gizmo here, thousands of dollars, not a priced-for-the-public Ranger-Tell.) The company guy is all excited, and places an order for one.
The story gets to marketing dept., who are similarly excited and want to advertise the new capability they're about to get. As though they already had it. After all, by the time the ad actually goes into print, they'll have the new gadget, right? No harm, no foul. Marketing dept. can't really describe what "ion detection" means in this context (obviously not referring to litmus paper) because they don't know, nobody's told them.
If they ever took delivery on their Mineoro or whatever, they're in for a rude surprise.
That's my theory of how this strange episode began. Company never intended to defraud anyone, they themselves got took and the timing was bad.
I'm trying to make the company look good in this scenario. Hope Earth_2014 has no objection!
Wait a minute-- was Earth_2014 himself the purveyor in this story? One of his posts here looks like something that would have been pitched to Sub-Surface.
The thought plickens!
