Roger Goodell must be feeling deflated....

[BigWaveDave]

Only locals I squeeze for down here are the High School team my boys went too... but I am Boston blood, through and through. The only time I root for the Dolphins, is when they are playing the hapless and forlorn Jets

 

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[BigWaveDave]

true, they only won last year because of the dumbest call by the seachickens

In my minds eye, I can still see Richard Shermans' stinkface....classic

 

[Peyton Manning]

to be honest I am glad you pull for brady, he has had it so rough in his life he could use a break.

 

[BigWaveDave]

to be honest I am glad you pull for brady, he has had it so rough in his life he could use a break.

No Doubt!

 

[Oregon Viking]

true, they only won last year because of the dumbest call by the seachickens

Well.....actually they might have still been stopped....even with their "better" plays, never know.

 

[Peyton Manning]

and while we are clearing the decks here, in spite of all the talk about his super model wife, I think his first baby mama is better looking

 

[TheHunterGT]

No Doubt!
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Now that's funny right there. That poor lady and her time constraints.

The way I see it....the judge said the "process" was why Brady is a free man so to speak....NOT because he is innocent. That should sum up any moral confusion anybody is having over the matter.

Brady and Coach win whatever the cost....Owner pays the fines and replaces the underlings (read assistants) so it goes away quicker. The NFL is very similar to Nascar....it is only cheating if you get caught...and even then you can sometimes get away with! If anybody thinks the Patriots are the only ones bending the rules...well....I'll stop there....

(49er fan until I die...just throwing that out there)

 

[BigWaveDave]

Thank you HunterGT, for your clarity, insight, and resolve....

Yes, there is a laundry list of organizations that have felt the hot water of controversy...players, teams, stadiums, equipment, electronic means, salary caps... stickum, PHD's, etc, etc....

Not saying guilty or innocent in either way, but if the process of the NFL investigating was more concise and impartial, we would have more facts and information, in which case TB12 might in fact be watching the first 4 games.

If I were Tom Brady, I would have owned the fact that there may have been too much pressure put on the ball boys by me to make the balls "comfortable", and that was on me. If he did that, a 25K fine would likely have been dolled out.

Then again, if I were Brady, I wouldn't be wasting my time with you guys.

 

[BigWaveDave]

and while we are clearing the decks here, in spite of all the talk about his super model wife, I think his first baby mama is better looking

you done lost your mind

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

you done lost your mind

Nope that is what I feel. You started thread for opinions and that is my opinion.

I'm from Tampa and would feel same if it was Tampa Bay who was caught cheating, cheating is cheating, there are no variables...

 

[TheRingFinder]

Come on boys, it's just a FREAKING GAME!!!! Does it really matter who wins? Does it affect the amount of Gold or Silver you find the next day?

I used to be a crazed lunatic for football - then I realized it's just for fun..............

 

[Chadeaux]

Now that's funny right there. That poor lady and her time constraints.

The way I see it....the judge said the "process" was why Brady is a free man so to speak....NOT because he is innocent. That should sum up any moral confusion anybody is having over the matter.

Brady and Coach win whatever the cost....Owner pays the fines and replaces the underlings (read assistants) so it goes away quicker. The NFL is very similar to Nascar....it is only cheating if you get caught...and even then you can sometimes get away with! If anybody thinks the Patriots are the only ones bending the rules...well....I'll stop there....

(49er fan until I die...just throwing that out there)

... yep, niners know about the "even then you can sometimes get away with it" rule.

I remember Jerry Rice tossing the ball before the one yard line and still getting the touchdown. Nope, the zebras ain't blind ... they just know where the payola comes from.

 

[Peyton Manning]

Nope that is what I feel. You started thread for opinions and that is my opinion.

I'm from Tampa and would feel same if it was Tampa Bay who was caught cheating, cheating is cheating, there are no variables...

T_H, I have never felt closer to you than I do at this moment

 

[BigWaveDave]

Nope that is what I feel. You started thread for opinions and that is my opinion.

I'm from Tampa and would feel same if it was Tampa Bay who was caught cheating, cheating is cheating, there are no variables...

How cute... a Bucs fan!!! Well friend, explain this to me...
Prior to Superbowl XXXVII, former Bucs QB Brad Johnson paid some guys $7,500 to scuff and break in the 100 footballs that were to be used in the Big Game.

Johnson, who led the Bucs to a 48-21 victory against the Raiders, says he broke the rules to make sure the footballs in the game were more comfortable in his hand. Johnson said he struggled to grip the cold, wet, or out of the box footballs, and was forced to wear a glove in the preceding NFC title game against the Eagles. With the NFL supplying 100 new balls for the game, Johnson said he made sure the balls were prepped to his liking.

Tampering with footballs was just as illegal then, as it is now, problem is, the league didn't care about it, because it wasn't considered a crime of the century, as it seems so now.

According to your logic, your beloved Buccaneers should have forfeited the Superbowl...


Also, Treasure Hunter... your team has had 7 players get busted for PED's the past several years... Suppose they should have forfeited those games too?

Last year, your team intentionally tanked their last game against he Saints, in order to secure the #1 pick in the draft ....
manipulating the outcome of a game to benefit the organization?...Seems like cheating to me...

 

[Peyton Manning]

it may be true that all teams cheat, yet it is only the pats who have been caught doing it

I still think it was a coverup that goodell destroyed the tapes from the first instance

 

[BARKER]

Hi TH; Yup, that will NEVER happen either. Brady is FREE. !! Goodell tried to use his Position as Commissioner to get even with the Patriots foor some sort of grudge he had with Kraft and tried to use Brady as his scapegoat. Goodells Game is now OVER. !!! PEACE:RONB

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Cheating is cheating, I don't care what team it is..... Punish them ever time....

 

[NHBandit]

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