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11KBP

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Great display you may have just helped me solve one of my own unknowns. Up in your nehawka group. View attachment 2142618
It’s not quite clear but sure looks like what I’ve got. What do you think?
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In my opinion your fossiliferous chert piece is most likely from the Pennsylvanian age outcrops in eastern Kansas. My locally named sample of Nehawka chert is basically the same material however there may be another name used by collectors in your hunting region.
 

Tnmountains

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My quest for Tennessee horse creek chert still eludes me.
Great displays and eye candy.
 

Missouri Breaks

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Banded Obsidian, North Bay Area CA private family property finds but the origin of the material could be elsewhere as there was trade going on. There are a few classic Identifier's when it comes to volcanic glass sources but there are loads of variants out there. A group of different stuff/tools etc here.
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Older The Better

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Here’s a bunch of Florence a or Kay county chert. The red background doesn’t do it any favors but I like consistency in the background of my photos when I’m working on a digital catalog so it is what it is.
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ToddsPoint

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My quest for Tennessee horse creek chert still eludes me.
Great displays and eye candy.
Like this? Three color horse is only found in a 3 sq mi area. All red horse is more common in that county. The few that know where it is ain’t sayin! I don’t knap much anymore but I’m going to cut and polish some into jewelry. With the 3 colors it should be nice.
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Tnmountains

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You sir need to give me more info,lol. That material is amazing especially if found in a true found artifact. The ancients coveted it. You have found a source...........
Thank you for sharing. Most people have no idea what it is. I know of no other material that comes close.
Did they heat treat or is it raw?
 

ToddsPoint

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You sir need to give me more info,lol. That material is amazing especially if found in a true found artifact. The ancients coveted it. You have found a source...........
Thank you for sharing. Most people have no idea what it is. I know of no other material that comes close.
Did they heat treat or is it raw?
I’ll be honest. I know where it is but have never been there. I’m too old and crippled up to haul rocks over those hills. A good friend that is young gets it out. I’m sworn to secrecy on the location. Your best bet for obtaining some is contacting Brad Harrison. Go to YouTube and check out his videos. I don’t know Brad but I’d think he’d probably sell you a little. I’m meeting up with my knapper friend the 26th for a Kaolin hunt in So IL. He’s bringing me some hcc. If he brings some down I’ll send you a nod. This is a Clovis I made from the much more common all red horse. I dropped it and chipped the base.😖 I’ve never tried to heat any. It doesn’t really need it.
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Tnmountains

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Nice work on that Clovis. I got to thinking about a red buzz roost I have. It is red maybe I am looking for the prized bullseye?
I wonder if this is HCC? I dug it out of a shelter.


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ToddsPoint

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Nice work on that Clovis. I got to thinking about a red buzz roost I have. It is red maybe I am looking for the prized bullseye?
I wonder if this is HCC? I dug it out of a shelter.
It doesn’t look like the hcc I’ve seen. To me it looks more like Buffalo River but TN is a bit out of my area. I’ll see what a knapper friend from down there says. Stay tuned.
 

ToddsPoint

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Nice work on that Clovis. I got to thinking about a red buzz roost I have. It is red maybe I am looking for the prized bullseye?
I wonder if this is HCC? I dug it out of a shelter.


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My TN knapper friend says that your point is heated Buffalo River. He said there are 3 flavors of buff. Plain, like yours, bullseye, and painted. Here are pics of bullseye and painted.
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Tnmountains

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My TN knapper friend says that your point is heated Buffalo River. He said there are 3 flavors of buff. Plain, like yours, bullseye, and painted. Here are pics of bullseye and painted. View attachment 2144833 View attachment 2144834
Thank you so much for the information. Sometimes in shelters you find the strangest materials way back up in the mountain over hangs.
 

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