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Don in SJ

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Site 151A&B Colonial finds

On Friday I went on my first hunt in almost a month and went to the site that has been producing very old coins and artifacts but the downside is that the soil is not kind to coppers.
I only hunted about an hour and half but did get two relics, one heavily worn thick Colonial copper and one big ole Key hole thingy.
I spent about two days trying to clean and see any detail on the coin and after the process of elimination by weight, diameter, thickness, appearance, some detail, and relationship to other coins found at the site, I am fairly certain, but never will be 100% certain that it is a typical worn out Regal William III halfpenny from 1695-1701 date range. The coin weighed in at 145.2 grains, too heavy to be a counterfeit unless it was cast with some lead, diameter 28.2mm and thickness was 2mm. I have a bunch of William III Halfpennies and comparing what I see and the weight and other factors, and I did find one other one at this site, I feel safe in calling the coin that, it is the best "fit".

Today, after the expected rain never really amounted to much here, I decided to go back to the site but this time hunt on the other side of the Vernal Pond, where earlier this year I did a walkthru the area and there were iron hits on that side of the pond also.

Right away I got a somewhat good coin reading, although it sounded like there might be two coppers in the hole. I dug and dug and no coin but the reading was still there. Finally I remembered that sometimes a coin on edge will give a double reading and also not pinpoint as good as usual. Sure enough, the copper was in the side of the massive hole I dug, down about 6 inches.
This one I could see detail right away and knew it was a KGII copper, but I also knew right away it was one of the minority of KGII coppers that are counterfeit. It was very thin and very light.

As Mike in NJ knows, since we both have said it, the kiss of death finding a coin right away, of course I did not find another one after that but I only lasted a little more than an hour before calling it quits. It is rough hunting in the woods in summer. :)

I did get a few other relics before I quit, what looks like a possible shell casing, two square nails, not pictured a heavy hot rock, and a nice inner part of a colonial era shoe buckle, which always is nice to find.

I tried to get a date off the KGII, but the fact it is a lightweight counterfeit, it may not have had a clear date to begin with, but I thought I saw about 4 different dates before I coated it with Blue Ribbon, till I decide if I want to spruce it up more or not at a later date.
I may go back there again tomorrow for one last hunt in July, before the next heat wave hits South Jersey. Ticks are bad, but I was wearing long pants and the pants, socks and shoes were all treated heavily with REPEL (Permanome) I highly recommend the stuff for protection from Chiggers and Ticks. The down side is, not good to sweat much and allow the spray on the clothing to contact your wet skin, you may get a reaction to it. But it does allow me to hunt during the Chigger season somewhat.

HH

Don
 

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Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

:thumbsup:
Awesome pics. Glad ya had a great hunt.
:icon_pirat:
JuJu
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

The oldest thing i have found lately is my wife. Hope you find more. Good Luck.
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

Great post Don! The cleaning and research before your posts takes more time than the hunt. :) Two coppers in two days? :o But where are the pictures of the nails? :D
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

another good post Don :thumbsup:
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

Don,

I am happy to see that you got some summer detecting in. I would agree that it looks like a Wm III. I compared it to the 1699 I found in May ( http://forum.treasurenet.com/gallery/0/19828_14_07_08_6_40_59.JPG, my only one) and the nose area looks exactly the same.

With the next few days expected to be a bit cooler, I am hoping to return to the spot that has produced nearly all of my copper this year. I am going to work the piney area of the site. The ground is a bed of pine needles in many spots. This way I willstay clear of the grassy areas where most of the ticks are hiding.

I know this has been a good year for you so far, it has also been my best as far as large copper (although number wise it pales in comparison to yours).

Congrats on the colonials and happy hunting!

Neil
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

Great finds :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Love those large Coppas
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

It doesn't take much to get me excited about playing in some Colonial dirt. That copper is sadly very typical for what I have to deal with here. A nice one is a real treat.
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

Until I have seen proven detail that it is a William III, I must play a "Doubting Thomas." For all I know, it could be a piece of Colonial garbage. :wink: :) :D

Keep the passion high! :thumbsup:

Kirk
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

Nice finds Don. :thumbsup:
You always find the really old stuff. I like that shoe buckle piece.
Congrats,
MM
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

:icon_king: You're the king of CC's, Don! :thumbsup: Fantastic finds!

Congrats! Nana :wink:
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

I think I'm getting used to seeing these Colonial's Don....You must have as many as I do Wheatie's ;D At least with the wood's hunt you have a little more shade than the field hunt's,tick's and chigger's are the same here too.Great Job on some very nice Colonial's and relic's.The one I found on the 4th look's and has the same demension's....Any chance of it being a WM III (1.7 x 28.4x 140.56 grain's) I just want someone to tell me "YES" :wink: Awesome Job!! :thumbsup:
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

Colonial KirkPA said:
Until I have seen proven detail that it is a William III, I must play a "Doubting Thomas." For all I know, it could be a piece of Colonial garbage. :wink: :) :D

Keep the passion high! :thumbsup:

Kirk


You're too late, the coin is already on it's way to Colonial PA for grade and authentication. Taking into account previous posts I'd say it will go about VF, but a little environmental damage of course. :D
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

Great finds, Don!!!
Glad to see you getting out to bring in the TREASURE!!!
Do you ever clean your coins?
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

Man I have never seen so many Colonial finds! You are the god at metal detecting for colonial finds! Congrats! :thumbsup:
 
Re: Site 151A&B Colonial finds

Glad to see you go out for some good ole' colonial huntin Don :icon_thumleft:

Great Find !!

Derek
 

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