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Spanish Silver Cob 1684-1697

N.J.THer

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With our second little one expected in August I've been doing less detecting on weekends and more work around the house but I do try to get out at lunch time during the work week. Last night it poured so the ground was damp making what was like cement the last few days a little softer. It was overcast but I figured I could get a quick hunt in at my favorite lunch time park. I love hunting in these conditions.

How I decide where to hunt at this park is where I can find parking on the city street. This is a challenge in itself. Today it placed me by a baseball field that has produced IHs, Mercs, Buffalo's, War Time nickels and one Hard Times Token. My first target was a 1941 nickel...just missed the silver nickel. The next target was jumping from a half to a dollar signal but it was deep and the ground was to hard to dig down that far. The next target was only 3 inches deep which is usually clad but it was a good signal so I decided to dig it. Wow was I surprised when this popped out.....


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This is only my second Spanish Silver that I've found in my detecting career...both this year. I thought it was a 2 Reale but then after rinsing it off I think it may be a 4 Reale with a few bits clipped off. I see at least three cuts. From looking online I believe it was minted in Bolivia. Where the date should be is one of the cuts....Is there anyway to tell what year this was minted from the other markings?

Any additional information would be greatly appreciated.

Right after I dug this coin my wife called so I spoke to her for a few minutes then decided to head back to the office. This was my best 10 minutes of detecting. Everytime I start thinking about looking for a new place to detect this park gives me something I did not expect.

I love this hobby....happy hunting everyone.

NJ

Update: From others posts it is a 2 Reale Spanish Cob. The Mint is Potosi and they believe the assayer is VR (Pedro de Villar). The date range is 1684-1697. (Thanks Iron Patch, Don and Wreckdiver for the info)
 

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Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Silver...

Shawano~ said:
Hey... Congrats on this awesome find!!! WTG... :thumbsup: I grew-up in Old Bridge, then lived in Somerset and New Brunswick. Where 'bouts are you in Middlesex Cnty? All the best in future hunting!!.... Tom Cleary

I live in Woodbridge and work in Newark. I found a 1770s Half Real in Old Bridge back in March. The Gold Watch in my avatar was found at the same site in Old Bridge. I love hunting down there but I don't get to do it as often as I would like.

NJ
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Silver...

Goalrush said:
Hey John...WTG!! That is one incredible find! I'm surprised some of the locals didn't get it first! ;D It has my vote for BANNER!

CONGRATS!!

Thanks Rick. The nice thing about hunting in the urban areas is that there is not allot of metal detecting competition. This is one of the few parks in Newark I feel safe while detecting but there are a few I would love to hunt but decided my safety was more important. By the way I'm still looking for my GW button... :wink:
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Silver...

I would have choked on oxygen if I uncovered this.
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1679-1684

Great 2 REALES!
Looks like a 4 where the date is, 1740's? I don't know if the style is right for 1640's. way to go! Kane 23
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1679-1684

kane23 said:
Great 2 REALES!
Looks like a 4 where the date is, 1740's? I don't know if the style is right for 1640's. way to go! Kane 23

Thanks for the info...When I go to my club meeting later this month I will use their reference library to try and find a match. I think that date came from the assayers mark of VR. Apparently that assayer worked at the Potosi mint from 1679-1684. That is how that date was arrived at.

NJ
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Silver...

Sniffy said:
I would have choked on oxygen if I uncovered this.

It definitely took my breathe away...
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Silver...

Don in SJ said:
Super find NJ, COBS are not found too often at all in New Jersey and to find a 2 Reale is just absolutely great! :hello2:

Finding a cob in our state is equal to finding a 1780's state copper in, ah, Kentucky, just does not happen to often. A couple fellow detectorists friends of mine did some discussion on why the lack of them in the Northeast and it basically was because of commerce and the fact we had more copper in use and most of the cobs were circulated in Virginia and we have noticed a bit of higher useage out in Western Pa, possibly due to Virginians migrating to that area. Anyway finding a 2 Reale Cob is a Banner find for our state.

Don


Different problem here, we have em, but still waiting for a 2. (0/10) Larger cobs I agree are a very good find!
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1679-1684

I knew I had a URL for Spanish Mint marks with dates, and here it is. I believe the date range given to you might be off just a little, going by this site it is 1684-1697 for VR, if just a V, then 1679-1684 is how I read it.

http://www.melfisher.com/Library/AtochaCoin/Assayer.asp#Potosi


Don


It is worthy of BANNER...
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1679-1684

Don in SJ said:
I knew I had a URL for Spanish Mint marks with dates, and here it is. I believe the date range given to you might be off just a little, going by this site it is 1684-1697 for VR, if just a V, then 1679-1684 is how I read it.

http://www.melfisher.com/Library/AtochaCoin/Assayer.asp#Potosi


Don


It is worthy of BANNER...

Thanks for clearing that up....by the way that is a great reference website.

NJ
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

Super find! Congratulations from neighboring Pennsylvania!

artorius
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

Great find! I have two questions: When are you going back to dig that deep signal in the hard ground and when are you going to tell us what it was??? :)
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

That`s a nice find. :icon_thumleft: Congrats!
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

ggossage said:
Great find! I have two questions: When are you going back to dig that deep signal in the hard ground and when are you going to tell us what it was??? :)

I did at lunch time today and it was a modern lock cylinder. The only interesting thing I found today was a headless lead soldier.
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

artorius said:
Super find! Congratulations from neighboring Pennsylvania!

artorius

Thank you
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

allen said:
congrats on that sweet silver !!!

Thanks Allen
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

Trond said:
That`s a nice find. :icon_thumleft: Congrats!

Thanks Trond
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

Time to update the avatar! :thumbsup:
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

Iron Patch said:
Time to update the avatar! :thumbsup:

Good idea....I'll have to do that this weekend.
 
Re: My Oldest Coin to Date - This one suprised me!! Spanish Cob 1684-1697

That Cob is killer! JD in Missouri has found a few of them at one of his sites in NJ.

Kirk
 

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