Strange USA tag etc.

[jjack9977]

I'm not sure what this tag is or where is originated. Any help with that would be appreciated. Found some other things. Cleaned up some of the things I liked. Same site. 30-30 Winchester casing, nice bracelet with no marking I can find, etc. Interestingly, up the hill a little more I've pinpointed something deep in the ground that outlines like a rifle. Dug about a foot down and still haven't found the source. Had to leave for the day.

 

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[david680]

Somebody will have to date the tag better, but it appears to be a WWI era dog tag. Name and country on one side, serial number on the other. Nice find.

 

[jjack9977]

I think you might be right. Googled images after you wrote. That's exciting. I'm going to have to explore the area a little more in depth. I found the item in the uppermost right corner in the same area. Also a very fancy switch plate that I seem to have misplaced in the darkness. I'll be back out there tomorrow in daylight.

 

[jjack9977]

 

[Loco-Digger]

Congrats on pulling that tag, exciting find. Seems like the F75 is doing you right.

 

[Mackaydon]

Another entry:
http://fultonhistory.com/Process sm...wville NY Journal Republicam 1922 - (345).PDF

TWENTY-SIX LEWIS COUNTY MENON WORLD WAR HONOR ROLLThose Killed in Action Were Lee HCook, Nicholas Demianovich, EdwinLewis Frank, Urban Karcher, JackKarcher, Charles Lachanca, Abel S.Virkler and Albert A. Wetmore.From an official copy of the "Bollof Honor," giving a list of those whodied in the service of the UnitedStates during the. World war, it appearathat the number of New Yorkstate men In both army and navytotaled 13,908, divided as follows: Inthe army, 12,353; In the navy, 1.555.In the army, 5,172 men were killed inaction; 1,854 died of wounds; 4,504died of disease; 447 were the victimsof accid'enrs; 113 were drowned and203 died" of causes not listed.— The following statistics are givenregarding Lewis county:United States Army.Lawrence L. Bourgeois, Lyons Falls,private. Company E, Fourth Infantry,died of niyocarditis June 27, 1918.Albert W. ' Butts, Lyons Falls,private. Company A, Seventh Infantry,died of lobar pneu"monlaP January20, 1918.

 

[trapperart]

Congrats on some nice finds

 

[Trezurehunter]

I like that Military Tag. Thats a great find.

 

[diggummup]

Tags like that with 2 holes were not introduced until July 6, 1916. Identifying the Dead: a Short Study of the Identification Tags of 1914-1918

edit- about 3/4 of the way down the page.

 

[sutphin]

NEEET FIND .

 

[Mackaydon]

Actually (IMO) US numbered service tags were not created until 1918; the first one was issued on Feb. 28, 1918.
What interests me is that Butts died in January of 1918, a year before numbered tags were issued; yet here we see a tag with the number in the millions and his name.
I'm still trying to sort this out.
Where was the tag found; Middleburgh?
Don........

 

[jjack9977]

You guys have been very helpful. I would like to see if I can find out more about him and how it ended up in Middleburgh. I'll be looking more into this for sure.

 

[against the wind]

Really cool finds and great research.
Congrats on your hunt.

 

[Mackaydon]

A 1917 enlistment application signed by Albert W. Butts shows he was born June 1, 1889 and lived at 512 Yates St., Albany. Is that 'your' soldier?
Lyons Falls is still a very small village (less that 1,000 population). You might try the White Pages for any family with that name currently living there.
Don.......

 

[Tommy G]

That tag is a great find. Very interesting. Congrats!

 

[jjack9977]

Congrats on pulling that tag, exciting find. Seems like the F75 is doing you right.

It is! I love this machine. It hits hard on deep targets and sorts through trash like nobodies business, which is exactly what I wanted. This will be my go-to machine until Fisher releases something to top it. Supposed to be new machines in the very near future. One they say will "go deeper than current VLF."

 

[jjack9977]

A 1917 enlistment application signed by Albert W. Butts shows he was born June 1, 1889 and lived at 512 Yates St., Albany. Is that 'your' soldier?
Lyons Falls is still a very small village (less that 1,000 population). You might try the White Pages for any family with that name currently living there.
Don.......

Sounds like that could be the guy. Poor guy only lived to be 28. I notice many soldiers died of pneumonia back then. I wonder if it was related to service, or just happened to occur during service. I'm guessing the former.

 

[jjack9977]

Actually (IMO) US numbered service tags were not created until 1918; the first one was issued on Feb. 28, 1918.
What interests me is that Butts died in January of 1918, a year before numbered tags were issued; yet here we see a tag with the number in the millions and his name.
I'm still trying to sort this out.
Where was the tag found; Middleburgh?
Don........

Middleburgh NY, yes. Right on the Middleburgh/Watsonville border. It was quite a relative distance from the residence here. Closer to the highway than the house, which sits back several hundred feet from the road. I've found many residential items in this spot. Fancy switch plates, hinges, knobs etc. Things you'd expect to see in a more well to do type dwelling. Either there was another residence in this lot at one time or that's where things were temporarily dumped when the existing place was remodeled.