The Beale key... Found

[Justintime]

Just because you don't have the providence you seek, doesn't mean it don't exist.... I've never seen a billion dollars but dot mean it doesn't exist...justsayn

 

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[ECS]

...but others have, not so with the alleged Beale treasure...justsayn.

 

[Justintime]

Some have seen Beale providence, you havent. Justsayn

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Show us! THANKS!

 

[ECS]

Some have seen Beale providence, you havent. Justsayn

You are not the first to make a similar claim on these various TN Beale threads, or after the Hart Papers and GOLD IN THE BLUE RIDGE made the Beale story known.
Justsayn

 

[Justintime]

So someone has claimed to Possess a DOI with TJB on it with maps of Bedford Va.. Lol.... get a life you don't know as much as you think you know. Justsayn

 

[Justintime]

Finding the DOI key was the whole reason for the BP, justsayn

 

[ECS]

"The papers enclosed herewith will be unintelligible without the KEY, which will reach you in time...as ten years must elapse before you see this letter..."
-THE BEALE PAPERS
The papers of Thomas J Beale NEVER mention the DOI as the "key", ONLY a letter that contained the "key".
The DOI as "key" is an assumption solely based on the "unknown author" using and providing a copy in the published job print pamphlet, justsayn.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Finding the DOI key was the whole reason for the BP, justsayn

It will be seen by a perusal of Mr. Beale's letter to Mr. Morriss that he promised, under certain contingences, such as failure to see or communicate with him in a given time, to furnishing a key by which the papers would be fully explained. As the failure to do either actually occurred, and the promised explanation has never been received, it may possibly remain in the hands of some relative or friend of Beale's, or some other person engaged in the enterprise with him. That they would attach no importance to a seemingly unintelligible writing seems quite natural; but their attention being called to them by the publication of this narrative, may result in eventually bringing to light the missing paper.

 

[bigscoop]

It will be seen by a perusal of Mr. Beale's letter to Mr. Morriss that he promised, under certain contingences, such as failure to see or communicate with him in a given time, to furnishing a key by which the papers would be fully explained. As the failure to do either actually occurred, and the promised explanation has never been received, it may possibly remain in the hands of some relative or friend of Beale's, or some other person engaged in the enterprise with him. That they would attach no importance to a seemingly unintelligible writing seems quite natural; but their attention being called to them by the publication of this narrative, may result in eventually bringing to light the missing paper.

Which still begs the dubious question, after already having allegedly stumbled onto one working key, "how did the author know that there was still a missing paper?" Only one possible way that he could have known. It's little tell-tells like this that so many want to avoid addressing and accepting, and for good reason. This is why you want to research the actual source text over and over again first, otherwise folks can easily end up chasing assumptions, just as many authors have, and still do, count on.

 

[Justintime]

It will be seen by a perusal of Mr. Beale's letter to Mr. Morriss that he promised, under certain contingences, such as failure to see or communicate with him in a given time, to furnishing a key by which the papers would be fully explained. As the failure to do either actually occurred, and the promised explanation has never been received, it may possibly remain in the hands of some relative or friend of Beale's, or some other person engaged in the enterprise with him. That they would attach no importance to a seemingly unintelligible writing seems quite natural; but their attention being called to them by the publication of this narrative, may result in eventually bringing to light the missing paper.

The BP was designed to bring forth the missing key. But the thing they failed to realize was the promised explanation was sent in the form of a letter from St. Louis, that had key instructions regarding the box, in this place sealed... the key to the key, the Key was there the whole time.. one has to separate the BP, the letters are all you need...toss the testimony of morriss and ward. Good luck with your ciphers, for the real solve none are needed...

 

[Justintime]

 

[Rebel - KGC]

"GRAIL"...? "FAKE Mystery"...? LOL! Very TRUE! The above "post" makes NO sense...

 

[masterpoe]

The BP was designed to bring forth the missing key. But the thing they failed to realize was the promised explanation was sent in the form of a letter from St. Louis, that had key instructions regarding the box, in this place sealed... the key to the key, the Key was there the whole time.. one has to separate the BP, the letters are all you need...toss the testimony of morriss and ward. Good luck with your ciphers, for the real solve none are needed...

The box that the DOI was found in was an Iron box or steel box? What did the lock look like?

 

[Cryptography]

The box that the DOI was found in was an Iron box or steel box? What did the lock look like?

The box was a iron box, with wood overlaid with iron. The lock was a standard of the time.

 

[Justintime]

This is what is , IN way of Cave. Here you can see it on the DOI-Key old RockButtcaveplug, lol. even has the word CAVE above the DOI-KEY depiction...

 

[ECS]

This is what is , IN way of Cave. Here you can see it on the DOI-Key old RockButtcaveplug, lol. even has the word CAVE above the DOI-KEY depiction...

From Ward's 1885 BEALE PAPERS:
"under pretense of hunting etc, we visited the cave, and found it unfit for our purpose."
The Beale narrative clearly states that Beale passed on the cave, instead:
"I have deposited ...in an excavation or vault, six feet below the surface of the ground..."
From the narrative text, Beale and company did not use a cave at all, but dug a hole six feet in the ground to hide this treasure.
Justsayin'

 

[Justintime]

From Ward's 1885 BEALE PAPERS:
"under pretense of hunting etc, we visited the cave, and found it unfit for our purpose."
The Beale narrative clearly states that Beale passed on the cave, instead:
"I have deposited ...in an excavation or vault, six feet below the surface of the ground..."
From the narrative text, Beale and company did not use a cave at all, but dug a hole six feet in the ground to hide this treasure.
Justsayin'

Sure if you say so, lol. Yes, The first cave was compromised, and they so found a better place... an even better Cave that wasnt compromised..They were making it know that a Cave of some type is needed in the first place, so to go from a Cave to the ground hole makes no sense. PS you need to read better and clearer, you change up the words in the BP more than anyone.

 

[ECS]

The quotes are what are written in the Beale Papers, nothing changed, just edited as the three dot show.
Once they passed on the well known farmers cave they excavated a vault "six feet below the surface" no other cave was ever mentioned, aka, they dug a six foot deep hole in the ground to create a treasure vault- no cave required.
Where and when have I ever changed the words of the Beale Papers?

 

[Justintime]

The quotes are what are written in the Beale Papers, nothing changed, just edited as the three dot show.
Once they passed on the well known farmers cave they excavated a vault "six feet below the surface" no other cave was ever mentioned, aka, they dug a six foot deep hole in the ground to create a treasure vault- no cave required.
Where and when have I ever changed the words of the Beale Papers?

Kool, you got it figured out. You have know idea what they were doin or burying anyway.