The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

[ringfinder]

The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Hi all, I know it's been awhile since Gary and I posted, but it's been a busy summer. Finally the Corn and Beans are coming out of the fields at a record pace here in Ohio.

Gary and I have been hitting some of our hunt sites and most of them have been paying off. We got out Friday and Sunday and we both found some really nice finds.

One of my finds at a Ghost town near were I live was a Eagle Head. I think it might be brass, I'm not sure if I want to clean it up too much. It still has wood in it from I suppose wooden stanza. Really not sure how old it is, but it sure was a GREAT find.

I also found in the same field 6 IH's 1882, 1887,1887,1891,1904 & 1906. A shielded nickel 18??, two buffalo nickels, one no date and the other 1936, a Mercury dime, no date, a Washington 1941 Quarter, five wheat penny's 1919,1944, 1951 D, 1951 D & 1955 D. I also found a 1951 Dog Tag, 3 buttons, one says Pay Day on it, 2 sleigh bells, one home made and the other can't read the number and a Token that has a picture of New York City hall on it and that writing, with a Liberty picture on the front, no date.

Gary found many items at another site and at the Ghost town site. They are as follows. Three IH penny's 1888 ( no 8 over the 7 ), 1892 & 188?, one wheat penny 1916, a Seated Half Dime 1841, a Barber Dime 1899, a Large Cent, no date, a 1841 Mint Drop coin, not sure what this is yet. A good luck token from the VFW National Home, 1933, a Handihook, a token worth 5 Cents in Trade and a Toy Train.

I gotta say, I sure love this fall weather we are having here in the Great State of Ohio.

Hope you all are doing just as well. HH, Ringfinder

I am including pictures of our finds, plust some of the junk from the fields.

 

[huntedoutnoway]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Hi all, I know it's been awhile since Gary and I posted, but it's been a busy summer. Finally the Corn and Beans are coming out of the fields at a record pace here in Ohio.

Gary and I have been hitting some of our hunt sites and most of them have been paying off. We got out Friday and Sunday and we both found some really nice finds.

One of my finds at a Ghost town near were I live was a Eagle Head. I think it might be brass, I'm not sure if I want to clean it up too much. It still has wood in it from I suppose wooden stanza. Really not sure how old it is, but it sure was a GREAT find.

I also found in the same field 6 IH's 1882, 1887,1887,1891,1904 & 1906. A shielded nickel 18??, two buffalo nickels, one no date and the other 1936, a Mercury dime, no date, a Washington 1941 Quarter, five wheat penny's 1919,1944, 1951 D, 1951 D & 1955 D. I also found a 1951 Dog Tag, 3 buttons, one says Pay Day on it, 2 sleigh bells, one home made and the other can't read the number and a Token that has a picture of New York City hall on it and that writing, with a Liberty picture on the front, no date.

Gary found many items at another site and at the Ghost town site. They are as follows. Three IH penny's 1888 ( no 8 over the 7 ), 1892 & 188?, one wheat penny 1916, a Seated Half Dime 1841, a Barber Dime 1899, a Large Cent, no date, a 1841 Mint Drop coin, not sure what this is yet. A good luck token from the VFW National Home, 1933, a Handihook, a token worth 5 Cents in Trade and a Toy Train.

I gotta say, I sure love this fall weather we are having here in the Great State of Ohio.

Hope you all are doing just as well. HH, Ringfinder

I am including pictures of our finds, plust some of the junk from the fields.

Very neat finds ringfinder.

 

[Leon]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Really nice finds, Congrats to you both!!!
Love the Eagle head...
Continued Good luck, & Happy hunting~

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

The "mint drop" coin is actually a hard times token, and its number designation is HT-62. I think there are several varieties--not sure from the photo which one yours is. The interesting thing about this token is that it has TWO dates (1837 one one side and 1841 on the other).

"Bentonian Currency" was hard money as opposed to paper. The friends of the United States Bank who favored the issue of Govenment paper for circulation, were constantly ridiculing their opponents by squbs in the newspapers of the day. The Virginia Advocate , for example, had the following in an article headed. "Who would not be a Jackson man?" - "Have you been seven times spurned by the people when you offered to serve you country, and are you in want of the wherewithal to make the pot boil? - try the hard money tack, and jungle a few Benton yellow jackets at everybody but your creditors, and it's odds if you don't rise to an embassy or a department. It is the short cut frame, to wealth and power; and one has hardly time to put on a clean shirt... before he writes his name... on the milky way of 'glory'... This Jacksonism is a crucible which like that of the astrologer, turns all baser metals to gold... Oh, what it is to be a Jackson man!" On the other side, Benton, in a letter written from St. Louis, in August, 1937, praised Jackson for accumulating eighty million of hard money in the country - enabling the Government to be independent, raising prices for farm products and prohesied good times, etc. He quoted Jefferson as having, in 1792, charged the Federalists with a scheme to banish gold and silver from circulation and deluge the States with paper money - which would have been accomplised in 1837 were it not that "Jackson's policy balked this system in the moment of its anticipated triumph," and he closed his letter by saying, "I think his successor (Van Buren) is 'made of the stuff' to sustain that policy, etc." Only a few months later, the policy of Jackson and Van Buren, or rather the heroic methods by which its supporters attempted to carry it out, regardless of the laws of business, - for the policy itself was sound - with other causes, brought the entire country to the verge of ruin. But the crash of 1837 and the Hard Times which followed were by no means solely due as the Whig leaders would have it believed - to the overthrow of their policy and the "mint drops" or hard money of Jackson and Van Buren; they were only the culmination of evils which had long been threatening disaster. The wild speculations which accompanied the rapid development of Western lands from 1820 onward, intensified by the building of railroads, as Fiske tells us: the miserable banking system of the period: the inflation of the currency by the issue of worthless bills and "shinplasters," were all potent causes. When speculation was checked, and "cheap money" abolished, prosperity returned. for this the Whigs claimed the glory, but it was due nevertheless to the "experiments" which they satirized so severely.

Information is from the following website: http://www.hardtimestokens.com/ht64details.html

You can see an uncirculated example of your coin (obverse only) at the top right of the website.



Now...as far as the second token...that's an interesting one. The German words on the obverse "Spiel Munze" mean "play money."
It appears to be a token based on a $20 Double Eagle. There are a good many of them floating around eBay and estate sites. Going price seems to be fairly high on this one: $40-$95 (non-dug). Here's a photo of the obverse:





Regards,


Buckleboy

 

[ringfinder]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

The "mint drop" coin is actually a hard times token, and its number designation is HT-62. I think there are several varieties--not sure from the photo which one yours is. The interesting thing about this token is that it has TWO dates (1837 one one side and 1841 on the other).

"Bentonian Currency" was hard money as opposed to paper. The friends of the United States Bank who favored the issue of Government paper for circulation, were constantly ridiculing their opponents by squbs in the newspapers of the day. The Virginia Advocate , for example, had the following in an article headed. "Who would not be a Jackson man?" - "Have you been seven times spurned by the people when you offered to serve you country, and are you in want of the wherewithal to make the pot boil? - try the hard money tack, and jungle a few Benton yellow jackets at everybody but your creditors, and it's odds if you don't rise to an embassy or a department. It is the short cut frame, to wealth and power; and one has hardly time to put on a clean shirt... before he writes his name... on the milky way of 'glory'... This Jacksonism is a crucible which like that of the astrologer, turns all baser metals to gold... Oh, what it is to be a Jackson man!" On the other side, Benton, in a letter written from St. Louis, in August, 1937, praised Jackson for accumulating eighty million of hard money in the country - enabling the Government to be independent, raising prices for farm products and prohesied good times, etc. He quoted Jefferson as having, in 1792, charged the Federalists with a scheme to banish gold and silver from circulation and deluge the States with paper money - which would have been accomplised in 1837 were it not that "Jackson's policy balked this system in the moment of its anticipated triumph," and he closed his letter by saying, "I think his successor (Van Buren) is 'made of the stuff' to sustain that policy, etc." Only a few months later, the policy of Jackson and Van Buren, or rather the heroic methods by which its supporters attempted to carry it out, regardless of the laws of business, - for the policy itself was sound - with other causes, brought the entire country to the verge of ruin. But the crash of 1837 and the Hard Times which followed were by no means solely due as the Whig leaders would have it believed - to the overthrow of their policy and the "mint drops" or hard money of Jackson and Van Buren; they were only the culmination of evils which had long been threatening disaster. The wild speculations which accompanied the rapid development of Western lands from 1820 onward, intensified by the building of railroads, as Fiske tells us: the miserable banking system of the period: the inflation of the currency by the issue of worthless bills and "shinplasters," were all potent causes. When speculation was checked, and "cheap money" abolished, prosperity returned. for this the Whigs claimed the glory, but it was due nevertheless to the "experiments" which they satirized so severely.

Information is from the following website: http://www.hardtimestokens.com/ht64details.html

You can see an uncirculated example of your coin (obverse only) at the top right of the website.





Now...as far as the second token...that's an interesting one. The German words on the obverse "Spiel Munze" mean "play money."
It appears to be a token based on a $20 Double Eagle. There are a good many of them floating around eBay and estate sites. Going price seems to be fairly high on this one: $40-$95 (non-dug). Here's a photo of the obverse:






Regards,


Buckleboy

Buckleboy, you are The Man!. Thanks for the reply. I just looked at Gary's coin, the Mint drop one and it does have dates on both sides. Thanks very, very much. Your research is a great help.

As for my coin the City Hall one, again Thanks. I couldn't find a darn thing about it. You are Truly the Man!

Thanks Again.

Some great stuff Denny. I have never seen anything like that mint drop coin. Guess it's a "hard times token". Very cool.

Tell Gary for me that he done well.

The fall is great other than the weeds and stuff still make it hard hunting some areas.

Bob

Hi Bob, Sorry to hear you are having trouble hunting in those pesky weeds. Gary and I are hunting in mostly open fields now. Some of them do have corn stubble in them, but the goodies are still their. Sounds to me like you guys have some pretty neat sites to hunt. The good ones always take a little more effort than the sites that everyone can see.

Gary and I were taking a break the other day and we were eating at a snack bar in this little town. I noticed an old picture on the wall and the caption said, This One Room School house burnt down in the early 1900's. Well of course we had to find that site. The fellow at the snack bar, told us where he thought the school was and off we went. We couldn't hunt the site, but we drove 2 miles south and found another one room school house and hunted there. I got a IH out of there. We could only hunt a little while.

Guess it just goes to show you, you never know where your going to pick up a hunt site at.

Best Regards to everyone who replied. Hope all your finds are just as good.

HH all, Ringfinder

 

[piggman1]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Those are some trulely awsome finds! Love that head.

 

[ashleen]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Great hunt, Ringfinder!!!!!!!!!
Congrtas on all those coins!
The eagle and the mint drop are way cool

 

[Danimal]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

What a wonderful assortment of coins and tokens over a wide date range.
Looks like an area with activity for a long time.

We still need to get together some time and hunt Denny. You and Gary would be welcome anything at the BErg or my new spots.
Gimme a PM if anything's open for you in November.

Dan

 

[birdman]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

You cleaned house!! Love your digs!

 

[mobrigade]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Cooooool Relics!!!

 

[WindHarvester]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Great finds!

The weather has been great for hunting and the farmers are on the ball here in Southeastern Ohio as well.

Could the eagle be the top to a small flag hanger like the ones you hang on the side of a house or porch? Just a thought.

Have a great Halloween!

Lonnie

 

[Nate in Ohio]

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Nice to see a post/finds from you guys again. Some tough coins in there to make for a real nice variety. Sounds like you're in good shape concerning sites to hunt. Love the Mint Drop coin BTW. Good luck with getting more, HH!

 

[SukiSal]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Great finds there, and love the bell.
Similar to the ones we find here.

 

[ringfinder]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Ringfinder,

What a STELLAR assortment of finds...

The cane topper is WAY COOL...!!!

The coinage is RIGHTEOUS...!!!

But I gotta say being a fan of STEAM...that toy locomotive part is ROCKIN...!!!

Great Stuff...Congratulations,

I know the feeling about the locomotive. Gary found a couple more wheels for the train, but I couldn't find them to put them in this post. It was truly a neat find. We found it at a house they are going to tear down in my town. We have been digging every signal from the yard, good or bad. You'd be surprised at the stuff we have dug up, that sounded like a bad signal.

Thought I'd throw in another little tid bit, the town we live near is Lima

Ohio and that is the town that made Steam Locomotives for years. If you ever get to the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn Mich, one of Lima's Steam Locomotives is on display, you can't miss it, it's the biggest thing in the museum.

Great finds!

The weather has been great for hunting and the farmers are on the ball here in Southeastern Ohio as well.

Could the eagle be the top to a small flag hanger like the ones you hang on the side of a house or porch? Just a thought.

Have a great Halloween!

Lonnie

Hi Lonnie, yes I think the Eagle was on a flag pole. It measures over 2 inches at the bottom. I found it at an old ghost town near me. I've found a few Civil War reunion badges at this same site. I guess I'll just have to start watching for Eagles on canes and flags and compare notes.

Thanks Again for everyone replies. HH, Ringfinder

 

[Colonial KirkPA]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Good job, Denny! Are you guys hitting the church site?

 

[ringfinder]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Good job, Denny! Are you guys hitting the church site?

High Kirk,

Yes we have been hitting the church site, it's in corn stuble now, but that didn't stop us. We found most of the IH's at the church site. I told Gary the other day, we need to find another church site that isn't standing. That's where the goodies are at, the sites you can't see!!! But that takes a little research and most guys would rather hunt something they and everyone else can see. Sorry bout there luck.

Well, hope you guys have a great fall, looks like you got a good start.

HH< Ringfinder

 

[SgtSki in MI]

Very Nice variety of finds!!!

Congrats to everyone.

WTG,
SgtSki

 

[jp777casino]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

Nice finds, i enjoyed the pics... Thanks

 

[imafishingnutt]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

that eagle head looks like an old cane top

 

[panzermeyer]

Re: The Fields are Alive with Pickers & Combines, Detectors and The Eagle Has Landed

wow !!! awesome finds.That eagle head is way too cool.Keep it comin'...HH..Panz

 

[weasel606]

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great finds ! way to go and i hope to see more so keep digging congrats