The Ground Hog Dug It Up

[CreakyDigger]

Thanks, NJ. I know there is more. Trying to formulate a plan on how an old lady with a bum knee can dig it up. Slowly. One Day at a time.

Get some real hogs, they'll make short work of it.

 

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[WannaDig3687]

a mole tunnel at the high school field along the canopied sidewalk gifted me an 1818 Large------

"ANIMALS ARE GREAT"--------credits to Greg Gutfeld

That's awesome!

 

[WannaDig3687]

Get some real hogs, they'll make short work of it.

LOL! I don't think my neighbors, MR & MRS BuckIdgr would like that. Do you see that glimmer of red in the pic? That is how close they are.

My digging spot is very well guarded.

 

[pepperj]

I'd approach the big dig from the outside in.
Then you're not reworking, or moving all the contents from the cellar hole.
You could get fancy and get that handy/dandy Mr WD to make you up a triple screener with just using ground cloth mesh.
Kind on a tripod set up, or 4 legs, as he's going to move it to the site for you. (hint hint)
1"-1/2"-1/4" mesh will work for most important recoveries.
You have nothing but time on your hands now...

 

[WannaDig3687]

I'd approach the big dig from the outside in.
Then you're not reworking, or moving all the contents from the cellar hole.
You could get fancy and get that handy/dandy Mr WD to make you up a triple screener with just using ground cloth mesh.
Kind on a tripod set up, or 4 legs, as he's going to move it to the site for you. (hint hint)
1"-1/2"-1/4" mesh will work for most important recoveries.
You have nothing but time on your hands now...

The Mr has been wanting to take the tractor with bucket and scoop up the bricks and loose stone. I am afraid that will damage what lies beneath. What do you think? He also suggested me digging all the dirt out and putting it in my little trailer and hauling it to another area to metal detect later. I DK what we?re going to do with the broken bricks. I will confess I was thinking of a screen on top of the trailer to catch stuff.


What is something everyone has, but don?t?

 

[crashbandicoot]

I,m thinking a tame Badger,ever see one of those dig?

 

[WannaDig3687]

I,m thinking a tame Badger,ever see one of those dig?

I took your advice and had one come check out the job at hand. I think it is a no go.

 

[crashbandicoot]

I like that!Good one!

 

[Blak bart]

Dang WD....I missed this one...nice bottle...how far does the seam go ?? The groundhog knows there are bottles down there....good luck on your digging.....there's got to be more !!

 

[WannaDig3687]

Dang WD....I missed this one...nice bottle...how far does the seam go ?? The groundhog knows there are bottles down there....good luck on your digging.....there's got to be more !!

Argh! Ye be pouring me a bit o rum now! Lol! I understand. I miss a lot myself plus I rarely stray far from de ship.
The seam does not go all the way up. Looks like the neck is applied. Did I get that right? Here he is cleaned up a bit.

 

[NJKLAGT]

The seam does not go all the way up. Looks like the neck is applied. Did I get that right? Here he is cleaned up a bit.View attachment 1947541

Not applied but "tooled". After being blown in the mould, the bottle was cracked loose from the blowpipe (at the top of the bottle), and then the jagged edge was tooled into this shape while still molten, with a shaped pair of tongs. That ring around the neck near the shoulders of the bottle is from the mould itself and not from tooling. Where the seam stops/fades is where the tooling has taken place.

I'd say this bottle was made sometime between 1900 and 1910

 

[port ewen ace]

for sifting the small stuff.....-- portable trommel---- not "BIG RED" or "Monster Red"--- but Tony Beets would approve

 

[Steve in PA]

Not applied but "tooled". After being blown in the mould, the bottle was cracked loose from the blowpipe (at the top of the bottle), and then the jagged edge was tooled into this shape while still molten, with a shaped pair of tongs. That ring around the neck near the shoulders of the bottle is from the mould itself and not from tooling. Where the seam stops/fades is where the tooling has taken place.

I'd say this bottle was made sometime between 1900 and 1910

Agree 100% on tooled lip and date range.

 

[Blak bart]

Argh! Ye be pouring me a bit o rum now! Lol! I understand. I miss a lot myself plus I rarely stray far from de ship.
The seam does not go all the way up. Looks like the neck is applied. Did I get that right? Here he is cleaned up a bit.

View attachment 1947541

Arrrgh....the keys to the rum room are yours !! Very nice find and a great displayer for your she shack bottle shelf....if ya got a bottle shelf yet ?? Congrats on that beauty !!

 

[Blak bart]

Make sure the ground hog gets a double ration of rum too !!

 

[WannaDig3687]

Not applied but "tooled-". After being blown in the mould, the bottle was cracked loose from the blowpipe (at the top of the bottle), and then the jagged edge was tooled into this shape while still molten, with a shaped pair of tongs. That ring around the neck near the shoulders of the bottle is from the mould itself and not from tooling. Where the seam stops/fades is where the tooling has taken place.

I'd say this bottle was made sometime between 1900 and 1910

Alright! I do believe you taught me something. I was supposed to start a thread about this, but never got around to it. I was at a garage sale and there were some old bottles I was choosing between. One was embossed with California Fig and it had a seam running all the way up. The other was this Foley's which the seam faded like the one in this thread. I chose the Foleys's because I thought it would be older. So, the Foley would be Tooled and would that mean it would also be in the same date range?

 

[WannaDig3687]

Make sure the ground hog gets a double ration of rum too !!

 

[NJKLAGT]

Alright! I do believe you taught me something. I was supposed to start a thread about this, but never got around to it. I was at a garage sale and there were some old bottles I was choosing between. One was embossed with California Fig and it had a seam running all the way up. The other was this Foley's which the seam faded like the one in this thread. I chose the Foleys's because I thought it would be older. So, the Foley would be Tooled and would that mean it would also be in the same date range?

Although I'd estimate that this bottle is from about the same date range, give or take a year or two, tooling isn't necessarily the one single characteristic that pinpoints a specific date range. Other indicators are the style/shape of the bottle and embossing, the appearance of the glass itself, colour, thickness, surface texture, etc. After handling more and more bottles you start to get a good "hunch" for guesstimating an approximate date range.

EDIT: Here's a good place to start - https://sha.org/bottle/

 

[unclemac]

it seems to me you need to dig a few test holes... old house dump site.

 

[smallfoot]

The Mr has been wanting to take the tractor with bucket and scoop up the bricks and loose stone. I am afraid that will damage what lies beneath. What do you think? He also suggested me digging all the dirt out and putting it in my little trailer and hauling it to another area to metal detect later. I DK what we?re going to do with the broken bricks. I will confess I was thinking of a screen on top of the trailer to catch stuff.


What is something everyone has, but don?t?

Over the years I have kept all the bricks I've dug at old homesites. I've laid them into many things around my home over the years. I have one walkway leaving my back door all the way down one side of my house to the wash room in back along with borders around some gardens. I still remember every site in which those bricks were found...