The Panic Has Started****

[Frankn]

I have been watching the business news for it's reaction to the school shooting and the panic has started. Cerberus has put it's gun making division up for sale and Dick's sporting goods has remover all guns from it's shelves. Looks like the battle has begun. On the other side, a school board in TX has decided to allow concealed carry by it's teachers. The gun ban crowd is back at it wanting to ban " assault weapons" or "military style weapons"as their first step towards banning all weapons. On the other side of the border the Canadians repealed, or reduced their gun ban. Hunters can now hunt there again. Frank

PS, Dicks has now said that it will only remove certian models of firearms. 12/18.

 

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[truckinbutch]

DICK'S is just that ................... I will not patronize that establishment and never have .

 

[smokeythecat]

I refuse to panic.

 

[releventchair]

Trust the lemming running in front of you,its sure to be following a smart one!

 

[Frankn]

Thats as bad as following the Judas Goat! Frank

 

[dieselram94]

I bought at last black Friday a Ruger 10/22 at Dicks as they had a good price. But I am very disgusted at their reaction to the school shooting. I doubt I will go in that store again.

 

[Red James Cash]

Here you go diesel,heres a lead spitting ruger 10/22 for you.

 

[Frankn]

The Calico is better. Looks like an M16, mostly aluminum castings, has a 100 round clip that sits flat on top, .22 They also made a 9MM version that had a 50 round clip. Frank

 

[jeff of pa]

Dicks Probably just Sold Out

Gun Sales Up After CT Shooting: Store Owner | NBC 7 San Diego

 

[smokeythecat]

Local news said the local dealers (southern PA) were selling out of everything this week.

 

[XDSA40]

Dunhams here in Southern IN selling as normal. Still have a few Bushy's (.223) at reg prices but they are flying out the door. They had several on the shelf in .22 caliber, but not a hot seller here. No hicaps in stock and only 1 5-round mag (over priced though @ $23); the gov will go after the hicaps quickly. Plenty of ammo on the shelves including the 1000-round tubs of 7.62 and ample .223. Dunhams doesn't stock a lot of semi-autos, but can order about anything. I'll be ordering a BLR thru them as soon as I can decide on a style.

 

[Red James Cash]

Hows the prices there on the 7.62x39s

 

[rockhound]

I just recieved a email from www.cheaperthandirt.com , they said that their inventory ran low today but will be shipping firearms and ammo soon. They only ship firearms to licensed FFL dealers, but they can get anything you want or need. Good Luck rockhound

 

[Crispin]

I promised myself years ago I was never going to get involved in another discussion about the right to own a gun. My roommate at the time was a liberalist and we went back and fourth for months while respecting each other's opinions. In the end, we realized that neither one had put so much as a doubt in the others mind. This school shooting has rocked my world. My friends, families, and patients have all called me with questions. The prevailing one, "Why would somebody do something like that." Patients who have been exposed to violence in the past have come in to talk. Vets that I treat for PTSD have had a massive surge in nightmares and flashbacks. Parents are panicking and afraid to drop their kids off at school. So, knowing that I am the minority, I'm going to vent here. I have a few statements and questions. These are not meant to pick a fight. I would welcome intelligent counterpoints.

1. Nobody is suggesting we take away the right to bear arms. It is the right to own assault rifles we want to limit. What is wrong with this? (please do not use the slipperly slope argument. no intelligent scholar places stock in that.)

2. People cite the wisdom of the founding fathers as a reason backing up the right to bear arms. When the founding fathers wrote the Bill of Rights they meant the right to defend ones freedom from tyranny. Assualt rifles did not exist. Do people think they need guns to fend off the government and have a civil war? If not, why can't a simple handgun suffice for personal defense uses.

3. If this shooting does not change your mind about guns...what type of tragedy would? 100 kids, 1000 kids, 1,000,000 kids. Give me a number so I can keep tally and know when we are getting close.

4. "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." What is the purpose in pointing this out? Does anybody believe that a gun gets up all on its own and kills somebody?

I know I am venting and ranting. I'll take my beat down like a man.

 

[dieselram94]

Who decides what exactly is an assault weapon? This is a slippery slope. You said you want some "intelligent counterpoints" but how about some intelligent points to begin with. You said don't use the slippery slope argument because no intelligent scholar places stock in that argument, but what are you using a basis for that statement? Your basis is your own personal belief and not fact. You also said why can't a handgun be enough for defense, I guess you want to take all the sportsman's guns. Not to mention all the handgun bans already in effect. Foolish views like the ones you put forth are the reason we as Americans are losing our rights and keep this march to socialism going. Maybe you should consider what is really important to you because I can assure you there are people that want to take that away from you like they want to take the guns. A good example : suction dredging in California.

 

[ivan salis]

humm dick's now has less guns -- new name could be dick less

 

[dieselram94]

Here you go diesel,heres a lead spitting ruger 10/22 for you.

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=udqDe_QfOF0

That is a sweet set up. I am looking into this right now.

 

[dieselram94]

Also as far how many kids is to many, that number is obviously one. But remember its people that kill people not guns as you stated. No one thinks guns get up by themselves and kill.

A better question would be how many lost rights is to many? Please give this some "intelligent thought "

 

[Crispin]

Thanks for the reply DieselRam, glad to see I got you fired up.
1. An AR is any gun that holds more then 10 bullets in a clip. Why do you need more?
2. The slippery slope argument can be used for anything. It is a circular argument. Why not let private citizens own tanks, and mortars, and bombs?
3. No, I don't want to take sportman's guns. Nobody is suggesting this. I don't know a single person that hunts with an assault rifle. Are you that paranoid?
4. "March to Socialism"...you got to be kidding me. Is there any other country you would rather live in? Seriously, name one. Do you want to live in a lawless society?
5. Why are you comparing suction dredging to the death of innocent children? Last time I checked, you can't force your way into a school with a suction dredge and kill innocent people.
6. You didn't give me a number. Please, do you have to have one? Tell me how many children have to die. If not 1,000,000...how about 10,000,000?
7. Yes, I welcome intelligent comments. I realize my words are laced with emotion. The conversation is.

 

[truckinbutch]

Here you go diesel,heres a lead spitting ruger 10/22 for you.

Fun toy , I guess . With the stock receiver it will fail in about 2 grand of full auto fire . DON'T ask me how I know that . A custom steel receiver is mandatory for sustained fire .