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This post is NOT political/NOT religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont make it that.

Please keep politics out of thread, party names, politicians or gov positions will cause post to be deleted..






American by birth, Patriot by choice.

I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......
 
Please keep politics out of thread, party names, politicians or gov positions will cause post to be deleted..



American by birth, Patriot by choice.

I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......

Why did you erase my post? Nothing you mentioned was in it..
Here's what I said and there is nothing political in it and no parties or politicians mentioned. Luckily I still had an old screen up so I could copy it. I'm sure it was just a mistake. I'll save you the trouble and repost.


"I agree. I also know that our lives, regardless of the direction of society are still our own to make. The individual ruggedness and self reliance that made America great still apply and we are still responsible (whether we or society want to recognize it or not) for our own fate, our standard of living and happiness. These are determined by choices WE make. As society changes, to maintain these may take more resolve and additional work but luckily we still live in greatest nation on earth that offers more opportunities than any other nation... ever .. By a long shot! MERICA!!"
 
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Here's something I have been pondering upon for a while and I want to throw it out there. Do any of you think that the reason for discontentment has to do with our loss of a sense of community? I'm not saying the past was rosy. Health wise, there were issues, but I remember when neighbours helped neighbours without being asked to. And old lady living alone? Well, folks would keep an eye out for her, shovel her driveway during the winter, and the like. So many of us now go home, lock our doors, and shut ourselves away from those who live just across the street from us. People turn away from each other rather than toward each other. I am not saying that this does not happen, just that this sense of community has faded and with it we have become disconnected from each other in oh so many ways. Sometimes I feel we would be better off if we built bridges rather than walls. Just a thought....
 
Here's something I have been pondering upon for a while and I want to throw it out there. Do any of you think that the reason for discontentment has to do with our loss of a sense of community? I'm not saying the past was rosy. Health wise, there were issues, but I remember when neighbours helped neighbours without being asked to. And old lady living alone? Well, folks would keep an eye out for her, shovel her driveway during the winter, and the like. So many of us now go home, lock our doors, and shut ourselves away from those who live just across the street from us. People turn away from each other rather than toward each other. I am not saying that this does not happen, just that this sense of community has faded and with it we have become disconnected from each other in oh so many ways. Sometimes I feel we would be better off if we built bridges rather than walls. Just a thought....

I do think there is something to that. People are definitely more self centered and have a sense of entitlement that is not congruent with the "help your neighbor" attitude you are referring.
 
Greenhat, you had duplicate posts, I deleted one of them and for some reason it deleted both copies.






American by birth, Patriot by choice.

I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......
 
Gotcha.. This computer does that sometimes.
Good looking out TH. Thanks
 
rowanns, I cannot discuss the causes of my "discontentment" and adhere to the rules here. :)
 
rowanns, I cannot discuss the causes of my "discontentment" and adhere to the rules here. :)

Where I come from, we discuss that over beer! Seldom do we all agree, but it's lively!:occasion14:
 
Here's something I have been pondering upon for a while and I want to throw it out there. Do any of you think that the reason for discontentment has to do with our loss of a sense of community? I'm not saying the past was rosy. Health wise, there were issues, but I remember when neighbours helped neighbours without being asked to. And old lady living alone? Well, folks would keep an eye out for her, shovel her driveway during the winter, and the like. So many of us now go home, lock our doors, and shut ourselves away from those who live just across the street from us. People turn away from each other rather than toward each other. I am not saying that this does not happen, just that this sense of community has faded and with it we have become disconnected from each other in oh so many ways. Sometimes I feel we would be better off if we built bridges rather than walls. Just a thought....

I actually put something up here like that last night, but I deleted it because it seemed political to me.

It all comes back to fear, power, and control. If they can instill fear of your neighbor, they gain power over you. Once they have that power, they gain control of your life.

I do kinda miss the small community I grew up in PA. We all had a sense of family there. I was a volunteer firefighter there. I had my right knee bent 90 degrees the wrong direction one night that caused me to be off work for nearly six months. My injury got around rather quickly and we woke up one morning to find our front porch filled with the necessities of life, food, toilet paper, toothpaste, etc.

I found another here. When I tore my left bicep of my forearm, the guys I work with opened up their wallets and took up a collection for me as we have done for others.

These communities still exist, but we tend to be called domestic terrorists because we are not reliant on someone else. The mining community tend to be independent and take care of our own. Not political in any way, just an observation back to fear, power, and control.

Ok, back to my charity gig. Building some Adirondacks for the local school scholarship auctions and having a few while I am doing it.
 
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Sure, life expectancy is higher nowadays EXCEPT did any of you ever hear about someone dying of cancer in the 1950's?
In the last 10 years, wayyy too many people I've personally known have died from cancer. No age limits either....Young or old....cancer strikes.
And what about diabetes? There's insane amounts of sugar in everything now.
Obesity? How many people even exercise these days?
Please..... someone point out to me how we've "evolved" in the last 50 years. I'd like to know.

http://research.ufl.edu/publications/explore/past/summer2008/story_6/pdf/pg04_05columnSS08.pdf

I know you can find any stats you want on line, but this seems to be the general consensus.

As far as over all life being better today than 50 years ago, who could possibly tell?

I was considering an equation for calculating quality of life, but my brain started to hurt.
 
Here's something I have been pondering upon for a while and I want to throw it out there. Do any of you think that the reason for discontentment has to do with our loss of a sense of community? I'm not saying the past was rosy. Health wise, there were issues, but I remember when neighbours helped neighbours without being asked to. And old lady living alone? Well, folks would keep an eye out for her, shovel her driveway during the winter, and the like. So many of us now go home, lock our doors, and shut ourselves away from those who live just across the street from us. People turn away from each other rather than toward each other. I am not saying that this does not happen, just that this sense of community has faded and with it we have become disconnected from each other in oh so many ways. Sometimes I feel we would be better off if we built bridges rather than walls. Just a thought....

Yea it's a good thought..... I'll pile on also. Your right neighbors DID help neighbors a lot more way back overall. Some of what's killing this from happening today is the fear of lawsuits over the silliest of things. Another is people taking such hard core stands and causing trouble where they have no business being involved in the first place. EXAMPLE: Meter lady shows up to read meter last summer. My 9 year old grandson and I are shooting the single shot .22 at targets. We were about 20 ft. away from the meter. I hand him the gun after I shot to make conversation with her (his turn). She just BLEW UP when he had the gun. "Do you allow him to shoot the gun she asks?" "Yes, I say"... "Is this your child she asks?" "No, its my grandson I answer" "She asks... "Who's his mother?".... I'll end it there because it got REAL NASTY after that... Quickly!!! And my grandson wants to know why she's upset.... explain THAT!!!

The gull some folks have these days just takes all initiative to reach out and even try and help let alone approach. And the possibilities of lawsuits or accountability weights heavy.
 
Yep, the idiots fear what they don't understand and our country is getting full of that type. Then they use the system to control what they don't understand. Just because they are becoming the majority doesn't automatically make them right.
btw, my 11 year old grandson is already off this morning to attend his skeet shooting competition. Funny thing, nobody gets shot at those events.
 
Quote: nobody gets shot at those events. That's what Cheney said:laughing7:
 
"WISE FOLKS BEWARE...THE FOOLS WANT CONTROL!" ...Sums up my humble opinion in pretty much all things.
 
"WISE FOLKS BEWARE...THE FOOLS WANT CONTROL!" ...Sums up my humble opinion in pretty much all things.

Good powers of observation. Unfortunately, the fools are winning.

As one signature I read says: "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burk

He also said: "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.
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NAME-calling, eh...?

Please point out what member he called names...






American by birth, Patriot by choice.

I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......
 

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