To All Treasure Hunters - Our Legal Rights are at Risk! WE NEED YOUR HELP!

[snoogieman]

We live in NC, but we will be moving to Panama City Beach in November.
I don't want to get down there and find out that i can't metal detect the
beach. If they pass this bill they could just as easy to attach another bill
not allowing you to detect the beach because you might find artifacts that
have washed up on the shores from the storms. So if we don't fight bills
like this, we wil not only loose our rights in this state to engage in our
hobby, but other states will follow right along with them.

 

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[RonS]

On its way. Here in Florida if this keeps up I wont be able to tell my Grandkids "Find a penny pick it up and all the day you will go to jail for not filing out the paperwork and asking the goverment if its ok.
Snafu

 

[gemhunter]

Yep, there slowly taking away our freedoms, hope this ruling drops dead.

Message sent

 

[oldbob55]

on its way. hope it helps

bob

 

[rayredditch]

In the UK and most of Europe, they´re starting to bring in permits for beach detecting, and in some places banning it. This means that you´ll have to get a hell of a lot to break even, and even then they want 50% of it. !!!!

 

[bubbie]

Hello; My name is Dale and I contacted Florida for you pretty strong comment, hope it helps..... Thanks; Dale from Michigan

 

[Red_desert]

Red_Desert
Can you send the following press release out through your contacts. It would be very helpful to our campaign.
Seahunter


PRESS RELEASE

St. Augustine, FL – Florida’s sunken treasure hunters will square off in full force against the Florida Division of Historical Resources, the Shipwreck Exploration and Salvage Policy Council (SEASPC) announced today. The treasure hunters oppose new regulations, known as Rule 1A-31, on commercial exploration of sunken ships and recovery of artifacts, as proposed by the Division. Members will appear at a hearing scheduled for October 21, 2008 at noon in the Guana Auditorium, 505 Guana River Road, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL.
“The rule is oppressive to commercial salvors and will do nothing to prevent destruction of artifacts the public deserves a chance to see,” said John Brandon, famed Captain of the 1715 Fleet.
Taffi Fisher Abt, daughter of the late Mel Fisher, added “Only bureaucrats could produce such an expensive, complicated permit program. I’m afraid my kids won’t get to hunt for treasure. I’m fighting for future generations.”
Underwater archeologist James Sinclair, M.A., thinks the rule will impede technological innovation and make it less likely that Floridians will ever have a full picture of the state’s long maritime history. “Florida’s seabeds are assailed by storms and tides. Florida ought to take measures to encourage archeological investigation of wreck sites and careful recovery of artifacts, but this rule will discourage investment by commercial salvors which supplements the State’s meager budget. We’ll lose a huge amount of sunken history if this rule is adopted.” For years, Sinclair has urged a public-private partnership to identify and rescue this endangered resource.
SEASPC has hired Port Orange administrative attorney Mary D. Hansen to challenge the Division’s rule at the hearing. “The rule is poorly drafted, and my clients deserve better. Their livelihoods are at stake,” Hansen said.
For further information, view www.melfisher.com or contact Doug Pope at (904) 838-6619 or email him at [email protected].

I got the mass media PR plan at my account last night...just as I said in my PM. Since nobody was in on Sunday, emailed the editor this morning at Emailwire. My account still didn't show I had the plan yet. But the editor said, they recieved it, just had to be processed yet. So, he told me to email in the PR. I used his email then instead of the online form and attached a photo with it. It came back, companies now have such good spam protection...hard to get through sometimes. Used the online email box, sent the PR. Also it doesn't have photo attachment like my account uploader does. Editor emails me, I forgot to include the keywords, categories. So, sent them online...a photo regular email. Editor emails me, he is waiting for the photo, but it came back as returned mail.

So, last time emailed online...said just do it without the photo...told him I'll upload it with a little more content and a photo after my account shows the PR plan is there. Editor should be uploading it himself shortly...to travel the wires.

 

[lou423]

I posted my comment...
But I can see the message on the wall, little by little we as metal detectorists are losing our rights to big government.
Every aspect of our everyday life, our rights and freedoms are being restricted.
And it is our fault because we keep electing the very same people that one control of everything.
Just like in Venezuela.
We are on the road to becoming a socialist nation.

 

[rayredditch]

As with all things, most state archies would prefer to see something destroyed than that any one else find and recover it. They all want to be the Indiana Jones of the year.

 

[go deep]

RGECY Sent email and passed it onto others within Florida, they all add up. Talk to you in the future,keep up the good work. Take care GO DEEP

 

[ky_don]

I live in KY but I visit FL twice a year and plan to call it home someday.
Regardless of where anyone lives, we must fight to protect our legal rights.
My comments are on the way to the site you linked to.

Good luck to us all!

ky_don

 

[Jay168]

I believe that the state of Fl is so wrong for picking on someone who likes to get out and find a piece of history. It is finders keepers.......... I also belive that you (the State of FL) should stop lining your pockets with money from taxes from the honest working ppl of america, and go out and get rid of all the illegals out there. Now that is mor important than picking on someone trying to get a piece of history.

 

[rayredditch]

They´ll have another amnesty, and that´s where they´re hoping to pick up more votes. Politicians are only interested in staying in power, and they´ll back stab everyone to stay there. If that means they can say "Hey, we´re doing this so that we can provide more welfare, and better integration and prospects for illegals, to the illegals, hell they´ll do it, but at the same time smile in your face and say, "we´re doing this for America and to prop up the economies in the Southern Countries so we don´t have as many illegals", they´ll do it. We´ve had it in Europe, and are still having it.
Ask yourself at the same time, why are your taxes going up, but your jobs leaving the country, and while you´re getting poorer, are the politicians too ?

 

[Silver Fox]

I have long felt that every country should have a Historic Salvage Department. They could then have the right to claim what they can prove through historic documents belongs to their country. But no country should have the willy nilly rights, supported by any court, to attach salvage rights to what has been found by others through sweat in researching and expedition mounting.

If I was a Mel Fisher-type of treasure hunter I would make sure that my vessels were well-armed to blow any claimant from the waters especially if they represented any government that neve made move one to salvage what has been found. Typical archaeologists ploy: you find it we own it!

Silver Fox

 

[Bumpstick]

Bump! On it's way

 

[Someolboy]

arrrrr... nay say I...

 

[diverj]

Message sent! Boy what a coincedence, this meeting is the same time as the dema show in vegas. This shows how these (public officals) operate.
Carl Fizmer was on scuba radio this weekend and he had a good point, that silver and copper damages coral reef's and should be removed. In this day in age so many people want to protect our enviroment . I think this should brought to attention in the letters. It was in mine.

Jeff

 

[gunner6170]

Message sent... hope it helps!
As so many of us don't live in Florida, please keep us informed as to
how this turns out, I would appreciate it!

 

[FLauthor]

First it'll be State of Florida's Rule 1A-31, next it'll be our public beaches then city and county parks will be outlawed. Get cracking as we're in the same fight as the NRA and gun rights.

 

[SEAHUNTER]

The response here has been fantastic and all the help in getting out the press releases will certainly help us get the word out. Let's keep this going, we only have one more week before the meeting. We are in the final days of our effort. We owe a big "Thank you" to all those who have sent in comments. Let's see if we can get some more.
Seahunter