TV show about Florida Treasurehunters/divers

[Dell Winders]

This is the first part of a Treasure Reality show we are trying to do but have no funding. An upstate New York webisode is nearly finished, and plans for more filming in Utah, or Arizona, in April if we can swing it. Dell

[video]http://videos.petesworldinc.com/location-1-illinois-burrows-cave-webisode-1/[/video]

Weird! The link doesn't download with "Opera" anymore. Downloads very slow with "Internet Explorer", yet it downloads immediately with "Google Chrome". Dell

 

[th2011]

GoldenEye

Ed,The striker runs great.will be moving her close to home for a total restoration mostly the hull here in the next 3-4 weeks.I own 4 boats so most likely the GoldenEye will be going out on HRD's site this summer.

Would like to see what the GoldenEye looks like. DO you have any pictures of her to post?

I will see you at the BBQ.

Regards,

Ed

 

[G.I.B.]

I'm about as bland as they get, nothing too exciting about my exploits to generate interest.

Someone is about to embark on a great adventure, and I wish them the best of luck.

Good or bad, it's an adventure- there will be lots of memories and hopefully a few great drinking stories to go along with it.

Best of luck to ya mate!

 

[ECS]

My undertstanding is that whatever is found on private property belongs to the property owner to do with as they want... Correct me if I am wrong. So it is not what is found it is where it is found.

In the State of Florida there is a fine line between private property rights and historical preservation depending on WHAT is found.Many construction and other projects have been ended by moratoriums and eminent domain decrees in Florida due to what was found on private property.
Case in point- Developer,Michael Bauman was going to build two condos with parking garage at Bricknell Point.During the site prep process,the MIAMI CIRCLE was uncovered.Bauman was compensated for the property under eminent domain,but the lawsuits continue to this day.
Now suppose that a treasure find of historical importance was discovered on private property.What do you think the States action would be?

 

[Bigdogdad]

I guess it would be dependent upon who is defining "historical importance". Gold coins, silver bars, diamonds, jewelry, or silver coins are of no real historical significance. I am not interested in Indian artifacts or mound sites such as the Miami Circle. None the less, thanks for your never ending concern.

 

[ECS]

1. I guess it would be dependent upon who is defining "historical importance".2. Gold coins, silver bars, diamonds, jewelry, or silver coins are of no real historical significance. 3. None the less, thanks for your never ending concern.

1. Historical importance can be determined by the State of Florida or the US Federal government,or,believe it or not the UN under various heritage preservation acts.
2. Reread the above. A large cache of what you have listed CAN be made to show historical significance,ie lost CSA gold in the Everglades,which the Federal government would have claim to as all CSA assets were "surrendered" to the USA after the Civil War.
3. You are welcome.
Remember,looking for treasure is fun
Finding treasure is TROUBLE
Trouble is lawsuits,government confiscation,claims of others,and the IRS.

 

[Bigdogdad]

The Miccosukee tribe is a sovereign nation. They never surrendered to ANYBODY. Whatever is on their reservation belongs to THEM. By your logic I guess nobody should be going after any significant treasures anywhere or else they are courting trouble. I am not breaking any laws and don't intend to. Ain't skeered!!!

 

[ECS]

I never said you were breaking any laws-just that the State of Florida holds all the cards with aces back to back.
The United Stayes is also a "sovereign" nation,but how many times has Spain made claims for "their" treasure found in US waters? When it comes to treasure,nothing is etched in stone.

 

[Bigdogdad]

They may have the aces but as far as I am concerned there are Jokers in this pack and we are wild. I am not an expert on Spains claimed treasures. I thought they fought and won on treasures in international waters. Either way it does not apply to what I am attempting. I do not intend to put myself in a position to have to fight our government. Our government works for us and I intend to eventually use their help when I need it. Am I a dreamer? Yes. The IRS will tax you on treasure sold but not treasure found. We may decide to give the majority of treasures found to the right charities.

ECS as usual I am still not sure what your motivations and intentions are as you follow me around on T-net playing the part of "Debbie Downer". Are you trying to get me to give up? Should I just stay at home in front of my computer as you seem to do?

 

[ECS]

ECS as usual I am still not sure what your motivations and intentions are as you follow me around on T-net playing the part of "Debbie Downer". Are you trying to get me to give up? Should I just stay at home in front of my computer as you seem to do?

BDD,you always misunderstand my points.I am playing the part of devil's advocate.Not everything in treasure hunting is cut and dry as it was in decades past.We are both aware of a visit the FWC made to a member who only posted photos on TN.Those boys monitor this site and those boys DON'T DANCE.
Yes it is fun to discuss the great treasure find of the century,but there are always consequences in finding it.
I do not discuss finds decades ago,but I know of sites that are now off limits,and will not tread.
Do I want you to give up? NO...but discretion sometimes is better than a brag.
You do need to decide if you are chasing fame or chasing treasure.

 

[Bigdogdad]

I don't misunderstand your points at all. I have no doubt that you are the Devil's advocate. As far as the FWC and that visit goes for your information that guy is my pal. Don't underestimate me. We not only dance but we have been known to sing. Golly, you mean there are consequences to making a great treasure find? Who would have guessed. Off-limit sites? Stay off of them. Gee, that was easy. As far as discretion and brag goes, do you really think I put everything on here? If you do you are naive. Why do I have to choose between fame or fortune? I WANT IT ALL!!! Greedy? No. Ambitious? Yes.

 

[Reed Lukens]

This is the first part of a Treasure Reality show we are trying to do but have no funding. An upstate New York webisode is nearly finished, and plans for more filming in Utah, or Arizona, in April if we can swing it. Dell

[video]http://videos.petesworldinc.com/location-1-illinois-burrows-cave-webisode-1/[/video]

I watched it and basically the camera man seemed like he was in love with the girl and keeping his camera focused way too much on her instead of actually filming anything interesting or significant. I'd fire the camera man, cut down on the chatter, and get back to treasure hunting instead of trying to find a full set of teeth haha.

 

[Dell Winders]

Good observation, Reed. The girl (apparently a wannabe actress) wasn't supposed to be in the video, or even known to be with the film crew until they showed up "on Location" to do the filming. Pete's, reluctance in the video to allowing her to be there is real. This was the director's idea which won out to avoid conflict and get things rolling. The film crew had been contracted for the shoot, and they were fired afterward.

When you are filming in a remote location 50 miles from the hotel room with a film crew that stays up all night drinking and without sleep and late starts, a lot of things can go wrong, and it did.

It was an expensive lesson for Pete, who is presently working 16 hour days to make enough money to finance a another trip out West. Pete's dream and determination to be an independent producer of Reality Documentaries is just as real as our own to be successful Treasure Hunters without having the benefit of any financial backing. It ain't easy my friend. Our audience does not realize the personal sacrifices that are made so that others may see and enjoy the fruits of our works.

Back home, in a salvage attempt, Pete, had the raw footage edited to the format you saw. He made do with what he had.

There is an important message in Pete's video. In a daring and bold move Pete, defied the Bureaucracy of a State that has laws, with strong penalties against any digging whatsoever for Artifacts on State,or private property. He trespassed on Private property to get the footage and leave a message of defiance to the unjust bureaucratic law of the State, leaving a shovel as evidence, and posting the exact GPS coordinates of the excavation site.

The message may have been missed by the distraction and entertainment value of a young lady with beautiful cleavage but there is no criticism from me. Pete, took a costly situation and made it entertaining. After all, it is a reality show. Enjoy!

Thank you for your critique. It is helpful, and appreciated. Dell

 

[G.I.B.]

The camera crew gave it the feel of an impending porn film about to break out...

So, what was the object recovered, what about the rock bust, what were the injuries, and what was being concealed in the bag?

 

[Dell Winders]

Good Questions. I'm sorry, I can't answer them. I was not along on this shoot, I didn't ask, and Pete didn't say. Maybe he planned to reveal this in a follow up segment? I don't know. Dell

 

[old man]

Interesting video. Bigdog, did you watch it Doesn't look like they were too kind to the treasure hunter.

Grubby, now has his own TV show. Doesn't look like he had much input as to how they shoot the footage and edited either.
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Wish you luck Bigdog.

 

[G.I.B.]

0110_GG_FINE CUt.mp4

Wish you luck Bigdog.

Thank you for the link. Interesting- so many people have the same dream.

Best of luck to everyone on this.

 

[Bigdogdad]

old man-I watched it. I think you have to be somewhat of an idiot to be portrayed as one. Ditto for looking like a dork. I was not to impressed by it. No likeable characters. Not that much of a story. They had about as much personality as Todd on Gold Rush. Other than all that it will do fine as people will watch ANYTHING.

 

[ScubaFinder]

This stuff is nothing new, we had a History Channel film crew on the Conquistador about 5 years ago. They made a few 1 minute reels and pitched the show to the producers, but they said we didn't have enough hot girls in bikinis and were lacking the required fighting and drama. I knew at that point this was not for us, so we scrapped the whole idea. I thought we would have made an OK show as we were, but they wanted the same crap that works on all the other shows.

 

[ECS]

old man- I think you have to be somewhat of an idiot to be portrayed as one. Ditto for looking like a dork.

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