un-fired pot chard

[GatorBoy]

This is the only one like this I have ever found.
This is the natural color of the local clay before it's fired.
Its extremely fragile.
Here is it next to a fired piece from the same site.

 

[Rege-PA]

What is it tempered with?

 

[GatorBoy]

Sand mostly and small bits of shell that were probably just in the sand.

 

[dbag1969]

Amazing that it survived being "green ware"...was it a surface find or buried?

 

[Rege-PA]

Do you have a side view of a freshly broken piece? Usually crushed shells were added to give it strength. I have found grit tempered on very early sites and crushed limestone on later ones but the Mississippian in my area are all shell tempered.
What time period for your site?

 

[GatorBoy]

It's an old water find from Florida.
Sand was used for a long time.



I have examples of I belive every type of pottery temper used in this state all the way back to fiber temper.
Thanks for checking it out.

 

[Rege-PA]

Thanks for the view, looks like a plain surface, more cord marked used here.

 

[GatorBoy]

Lots of paddle marked here on the more recent sites.
Instead of wrapping a paddle with cord they carved into it.

 

[Rege-PA]

Nice! Too bad the carved paddles were wood, some must have been like a corn cob and rolled on, others like a comb but not many examples survive.

 

[GatorBoy]

No not many at all.

 

[GatorBoy]

Not like a comb..that would leave the lines indented.
More like a stamp..the lines are raised on the pottery.
If it was a plain paddle that was cord wrapped the lines would be impressed.







Comb looking items were used for marrying the coils together though.
Then Those marks were usually smoothed over.

 

[lookindown]

Lots of paddle marked here on the more recent sites.
Instead of wrapping a paddle with cord they carved into it.

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When did they start putting patterns on pottery in Florida? Wondering how old the pottery with designs are.

 

[GatorBoy]

When did they start putting patterns on pottery in Florida? Wondering how old the pottery with designs are.

It differs.. but the most abundant is probably the St. Johns check stamp that shows up around a.d. 1200-1350. The Alachua and the Ais had very large populations.
Some Weeden Island varieties show up around a.d. 800

 

[rock]

cob marked?

 

[GatorBoy]

Looks like it rock.

 

[lookindown]

It differs.. but the most abundant is probably the St. Johns check stamp that shows up around a.d. 1200-1350. The Alachua and the Ais had very large populations.
Some Weeden Island varieties show up around a.d. 800

Thanks for the info.

 

[GatorBoy]

Anytime

 

[rock]

I find pottery very interesting. Its like art with all the different decorations. As soon as I can get some frames I have enough for 2 nice frames so far of just prints.