Unidentifiable bucket/ basket

[Jw4792]

Hello everyone,
I recently inherited this item and cannot figure out anything about it. I thought it might be an antique hat box, or water bucket but the leather is not thick enough for either use. Here are some pics with dimensions written on the photos. I also tried antique flower basket but nothing looked similar. I am stumped. The hand drawn image is not a family crest of any of my ancestors but might be a heraldry Mark , as I read they all had the silver helmet in them but that’s all I know. If you have any clue I would be grateful for your help. Thanks. Jw4792

 

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[Retired Sarge]

I like it, it's cool. Thought maybe a hunting/game basket, but not finding one like it.

 

[Jw4792]

Thanks furies. I think I need to find some 18th century or earlier scholar to figure this out. I never thought of hunting/game basket but that was a nice try. I wish the emblem that is missing from on-side was still attached...would have yielded a lot of clues. Any ideas on the beautiful image on the front? Looks really really old. Country of origin? I hate not being able to find out anything. Maybe I could take it to Berkeley university to there history dept. or send pictures to Oxford Historical Society or something like that. What do you think. John

 

[Retired Sarge]

Thanks furies. I think I need to find some 18th century or earlier scholar to figure this out. I never thought of hunting/game basket but that was a nice try. I wish the emblem that is missing from on-side was still attached...would have yielded a lot of clues. Any ideas on the beautiful image on the front? Looks really really old. Country of origin? I hate not being able to find out anything. Maybe I could take it to Berkeley university to there history dept. or send pictures to Oxford Historical Society or something like that. What do you think. John

Additonal exposure and other opinions wouldn't hurt, plus I'm sure some of our more knowledgeable members will chime in soon. Like I said it's cool and I like it, looking forward to what other ideals people come up with.

Dang it, where are my manners? Welcome from Florida to the Tnet madness, you'll be surprised at the collective wealth of knowledge from our members. They never cease to amaze me.

 

[Retired Sarge]

Hello everyone,
I recently inherited this item and cannot figure out anything about it. I thought it might be an antique hat box, or water bucket but the leather is not thick enough for either use. Here are some pics with dimensions written on the photos. I also tried antique flower basket but nothing looked similar. I am stumped. The hand drawn image is not a family crest of any of my ancestors but might be a heraldry Mark , as I read they all had the silver helmet in them but that’s all I know. If you have any clue I would be grateful for your help. Thanks. Jw4792View attachment 1797008View attachment 1797009View attachment 1797010View attachment 1797014View attachment 1797015View attachment 1797016

Now I'm wondering if it might be a fire bucket, see google search link below for other painted examples of vintage leather fire buckets.

https://www.google.com/search?q=vin...0&biw=798&client=ms-android-att-us&prmd=simvn

 

[Diggin' History]

It is most certainly a 18th Century Fire Bucket.

Here's the search link; https://duckduckgo.com/?q=18th+century+fire+bucket+with+crest&t=lm&iax=images&ia=images

Still looking for the Crest.
-DH-

 

[Molewacker]

I think we have a ID! IMHO

 

[CherryJalapeno]

Google lens is saying it is a vintage leather waste basket

 

[Diggin' History]

Google lens is saying it is a vintage leather waste basket

Well... that's Google for you. It is definitely a Fire Bucket; http://www.invaluable.com/auction-l...er-fire-bucket-with-carrying-107-c-8d6462cb88
-DH-

 

[Diggin' History]

Thanks furies. I think I need to find some 18th century or earlier scholar to figure this out. I never thought of hunting/game basket but that was a nice try. I wish the emblem that is missing from on-side was still attached...would have yielded a lot of clues. Any ideas on the beautiful image on the front? Looks really really old. Country of origin? I hate not being able to find out anything. Maybe I could take it to Berkeley university to there history dept. or send pictures to Oxford Historical Society or something like that. What do you think. John

I think I may be close. I found the Red over White Coat of Arms and a "Rooster" or Flammulet - if that's what it is, for Canton of Solothurn but, I could not find them together.

It's late now so I'll start again in the morning. I don't have cable so I won't be watching the Super Bowl.

Cheers
-DH-

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Google lens is saying it is a vintage leather waste basket

Niccccccce!

Great information provided here so far by Diggin' History.
My first thought was a 'fireplace coal scuttle' due to it's 'dish' shape?
I did some research and the majority of 18thc coal scuttles seem to have been made of tin, brass or copper.

I'm also thinking it's European in origin due to the decoration, as opposed to American.
I feel if this was from the '18thc Colonial America' time period that it would have more of a 'Revolutionary/Independence' reference in the decoration?

Dave

 

[Gambrinus]

Maybe it is an "ice bucket". It is possible it could have had a metal liner and a lid.
https://www.google.com/search?newwi...hUKEwiHwa6d8bLnAhURIjQIHZPdAnQQ4dUDCAY&uact=5

 

[Tony in SC]

A fire bucket like that would have hung in a place of importance like a hotel, theater etc.

 

[civil_war22]

Maybe a bucket for ashes from fireplace

 

[firemanphob]

I'd say fire bucket although many of them had round bottoms so they could not be set down and left somewhere other than their hanging location. Don't think ashes bucket. Hot embers in a leather bucket could burn the house down. You would be surprised how man fire runs I have been on where people have put their ashes in a plastic bucket only to find out they're not all out yet.

 

[TimberCrack]

I can't believe a fire bucket would have a leather strap for carrying...