Very nice and thin. Need I.D. help

[digordie]

Found this point on my farm about a foot and a half down under. It is very well made and super thin. Just wish the tip wasnt broke off. (Ancient break) Any ideas as to the time period or type Found in western illinois.

 

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[SOHIO]

yeah too bad about the tip......very nice one

 

[wells]

can't help on the point type but it sure is a nice one. Is that Burlington chert?

 

[digordie]

Not sure if its burlington chert or not. Had a local tell me it wasnt.

 

[SOHIO]

no its not burlington burlington wont have those blue gray streaks, also your point is waxy like flintridge burlington is more dry to the touch

 

[rock]

You have been finding some good ones

 

[GatorBoy]

Pine tree corner notched?

 

[rock]

Too wide to be that.

 

[digordie]

Well dont feel too bad guys. Havent found anyone who can truely i.d. it. Ive even taken it to shows. One guy told me he thinks its next to the oldest point styles made, and that i should dig up every square inch of my farm and landscape later.

 

[rock]

Looks close to a Hardin to me. I know you dug it and am glad cause that white color is one of the most reproduced colors they use.

 

[darryl]

It's a beauty piece- Hardin possibly

 

[1320]

Too wide to be that.

Are you sure?

 

[1320]

I'm surprised that no one has called this one paleo yet....lol. It's a nice piece, no doubt about it. Any grinding on this one?

 

[digordie]

No grinding that i can tell.

 

[rock]

Are you sure?

Whats your guess then?

 

[1320]

Whats your guess then?

I'm "guessing" that Pine Trees in their early stages of manufacture can be much wider than you think, that's all I'm saying. Please don't engage me in a pissing match my friend.

 

[rock]

How is that a match by asking your guess? I am no expert when it comes to the id on any point. I was curious what you thought.

 

[1320]

Whats your guess then?

What's you're guess?

 

[1320]

How is that a match by asking your guess? I am no expert when it comes to the id on any point. I was curious what you thought.

How then can you say "it's too wide to be a Pine Tree"? lol....very loud

 

[1320]

My guess.....Lost Lake, Kirk or Pine Tree....I won't use the word "definately" and I won't say what it isn't, if it's not in my hand, I can't remotely make the call...heck, it could have been knapped yesterday for all I know. The notching is a bit suspect for the types that I suggest but I can't rule my guesses out based on width. Pine Trees in late stages in fact look like an honest to God pine tree that you find in the woods today, that's how they received the name. The early stages look nothing like a pine....