Watchmen ??

[Rebel - KGC]

Well, one thing my dad taught me is that sometimes the chain of command is trivial and time consuming - if you want something done go to the top!

"Oh Lord, My God! Is there no help for the widows son?"

We DO hear you; PROBLEM is, it's a NEW generation "out there". It is USUALLY "blood-related" family "Line of Succession"; the "word" sis... is IM-per-a-tore, to MY knowledge. NOT sure, who it would be, NOW... COULD be someone from local FreeMASONIC Lodge; MAYBE not. 33rd Degrees Scottish Rite FreeMasons have been known to "run" CASTLES.

 

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[Sis]

We DO hear you; PROBLEM is, it's a NEW generation "out there". It is USUALLY "blood-related" family "Line of Succession"; the "word" sis... is IM-per-a-tore, to MY knowledge. NOT sure, who it would be, NOW... COULD be someone from local FreeMASONIC Lodge; MAYBE not. 33rd Degrees Scottish Rite FreeMasons have been known to "run" CASTLES.

I Know Ya'll Do. It's just that dad died 1992, granddaddy died in 1993. If I'd have not gone "home" to draw up affidavit and clean land - 2006 I'd have not Known/remembered all this and that would be that. But now I do. And I may be a female and not know everything; But I Do Know It's Wrong!

It has nothing to do with my wanting what anyone Has Now - It has to do with Family and their being done wrong - What I've done is not done out of jealousy or selfishness. What i do is for all of us...
It also has to do with totally disrespecting everything His Father taught him, his brothers and the rest of us. Totally disregarding his Wishes and Will.

 

[Sis]

We DO hear you; PROBLEM is, it's a NEW generation "out there". It is USUALLY "blood-related" family "Line of Succession"; the "word" sis... is IM-per-a-tore, to MY knowledge. NOT sure, who it would be, NOW... COULD be someone from local FreeMASONIC Lodge; MAYBE not. 33rd Degrees Scottish Rite FreeMasons have been known to "run" CASTLES.

So, would I search for a Masonic Lodge in the same county as the land? I don't know where to go or who to ask to talk too...

 

[Sis]

I know there is a Lodge here - would that be a good place to start?

 

[Dr. Syn]

Sis, you asked about markers, and them being normal to most except to those in the know.

A tree with a crooked branch, or maybe one with a couple of limbs removed off one side, a pile of rocks. A couple of old jack handles used for property markers.

Most folks would walk right past them with out giving em a seconds glance. Those trees are markers, pointing a direction, that pile of rocks are too, could be the same with your jack handles, for example. Those in the know, will know about em.

And just because a sentinel(s) aren't doing anything about old Uncle T doesn't mean they aren't still out there. Sometimes, at least in my case they already knew what was going to happen. They knew that some of the spoils would be lost, but the main treasure was still secure. Was already planned that way to get rid of the vultures. Like the old saying "You don't carry all your eggs in one basket"

My Grand Dad was dirt poor farmer. Junk equipment, never planted a crop, rarely had more then a few head of cattle.
The vultures gobbled up everything except the farm, nobody wanted it when he died. That is until the will reading and it was found out I was the only one allowed to buy it.

They raised holy hello because I was the only one allowed to buy it. They didn't care that I was buying it, they wanted me to pay more for it then my Grand Dad had stated, so they could get a bigger share in the estate. I paid the price. They took the money and everything else and ran with it. And within a year had blown it all.

Me I was just happy to have the farm. Didn't take too long for my Grand Dad's "Family" to make themselves known to me. First was the attorney, who floored me when he called me to come see him. Advised me of the crafty bugger my Grand Dad was, he had never sold the mineral rights to the farm, among other things. Let's just say I retired right after that meeting.

Or the section of property the original homestead was on. Good luck to you if you cross it. You'll get to meet some of the "family" and in no uncertain terms will you be escorted off of it. I've had friends who I've left hunt on the farm meet up with em. And boy did they make certain to inform my friends that NO ONE crossed that land. I got the same treatment too, until they learned who I was.

Or how bout the new homestead. Kinda weird there. Sold it as I didn't need something like that. Well it's on it third set of owners in 10 years. Things happen there. And folks don't stay too long. Beautiful place, but bad bad things happen to the owners. First two lost family there under strange circumstances. And have already heard of things with the third. Again someone is giving some serious warnings about who belongs there.


Sis if they are there, they will find you when the time is right, but it could be they are waiting for you to make the first move. You may have to prove to them that you are worthy of what lies waiting for you. Be smart, do what you have to do to let em know the rightful heir is coming home.

 

[Sis]

One of the oldest tricks in the marker book. Place something that looks like it belongs to everyone else, yet is not, to someone in the know.

Can you give me some ideas of what kinds of things I might use that looks like it belongs to everyone else, yet is not that would be unmistakable to be such a message, please?

I'm willing to hear answers for this from any of ya'll.
What would You Use to send this message?
Any particular color will help give this message?

Thanks!

 

[Shortstack]

Sis, did y0ur Granddad or Daddy have any "hunting buddies" the lived off and would visit every once in a while for a hunt......squirrel, deer, or coon?? Maybe run some coon hounds? What better way to cover a meeting than with some baying coon hounds.

Do you know what your Daddy's and Granddaddy's cards would be in those Taro cards? Maybe your Granddaddy's sign was that all seeing eye and that carving "marked" his land. Just some random thought.

Ask you Granddaddy and Daddy to give you the name of a "helper". At least his last name.

EDIT: I believe I know why you put those mirrors on your place and faced them toward T's house.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

So, would I search for a Masonic Lodge in the same county as the land? I don't know where to go or who to ask to talk too...

Yes. Look in the area phone book; see if any member of your "blood" family are/were FreeMasons.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Granddaddy's first card would be The Lovers
Daddy's first card would be The Hierophant

I can't remember the formula for calculating their second card.

But, in a regular deck of cards
Granddaddy - King of Hearts - Scorpio
Daddy - King of Diamonds - Capricorn

Uncle T - King of Clubs - I think since, he is an Aries (I know his date and month of birth but, not his year and I can't remember how much older daddy was than he.)

The only time I remember any of them all loading up to go deer hunting on the back of the wagon pulled by a tractor it was granddaddy, all his boys and the older male cousins - boys of uncles. If there were anyone I didn't know with them - I don't remember them. I'll ask...

Daddy told me once that he wanted to take me; but I'd have to sit very quite.
I told him, Ok, I'll sit quiet but, when a buck comes along, I'll be hollering Shew, shew, shew.
He laughed and told me oh no, you'll stay here.
LOL = no, I'll eat grass along with the deer and not the deer if it has to be killed.

If you believe you know - then I believe you must be right.

*Edit*

After checking family history birth dates, my great-great-granddaddy's (the one I'm kin to from both paternal and maternal sides) card would be The Emperor and King of Diamonds - Taurus.

His son - Strength - King of Clubs - Aries
and his son is Granddaddy.

So, if we line these all up they are:

Great-great-granddaddy - The Emperor - King of Diamonds - Taurus
Great-granddaddy - Strength - King of Clubs - Aries
Granddaddy - The Lovers - King of Hearts - Scorpio
Daddy - The Hierophant - King of Diamonds - Capricorn
Me - The Hierophant - Empress - Queen of Hearts - Pisces

Also, I don't know if this might mean anything to anyone here; but, once when I was there - I verbally reactivated the energy of the land.

Maybe the Cherokee in me, but I do not believe so much that the land belongs to us. I believe that we belong to the land.

You can do that when you have "the BLOOD" of the native ppl. (Cherokee) I have it also...

 

[oddrock]

Can you give me some ideas of what kinds of things I might use that looks like it belongs to everyone else, yet is not that would be unmistakable to be such a message, please?

I'm willing to hear answers for this from any of ya'll.
What would You Use to send this message?
Any particular color will help give this message?

Thanks!

Sis,

I would make a "Stop" sign for each corner of your property. (8 sided, just like on a road).
I would use the color red to signify "Blood". I would let the red drip down from each letter, as in blood flowing.

Oddrock

 

[Rebel - KGC]

My boyfriends father was a Mason, although he (the boyfriend) is not (that I know of) - his father left him his ring when he died (I only know this since, the BF showed me his ring), and I know there is a Lodge here - would that be a good place to start?

YEP!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Once you have in writing that YOU own the land, YOU can put up NO TRESS-PASSING signs...

 

[Sis]

I feel I can already place signs. And the last time I talked to uncle, he told me that he'd not do anything else to the land - cutting trees / moving dirt and such. I said, "I reckon, that's as it should be considering what's been done." He just looked at me...

***

All this talking of cards got me wondering. So, I decided to read the cards about this situation. While, shuffling I asked the cards to talk to me, to tell me the things I needed to know right now as well asking them if I was doing the right thing about this situation. The card were not placed in their natural order since, I’d shuffled and used them before putting them up the last time they were used. I also should let you know that pulling high cards while reading cards is not unusual for me - it happens nearly every time I read.

I felt lead to not place a layout; but to turn the deck over in my hand to see what card was on the bottom.

The High Priestess sat gazing at me.
I then looked at the card on top and was greeted by the Ace of Swords.
Next, I picked up part of the deck and The Magician grinned back.

I then decided to take a look at what might be backing up the High Priestess and watching her back is The Empress, so I could not help but, to see what was backing up The Empress and find The Emperor and then behind him stands The Hierophant. Hmmm.

I turned the deck and checked the card sitting with the Ace of Swords and find The Hanged Man.

Then, I checked the card in front of The Magician and find the 4 of Swords, Then I looked to see who had The Magician’s back and was greeted by the Knight of Cups - Jack of Hearts.

The High Priestess - This card tells me to trust my inner knowledge and intuition, rather than my conscious mind. That I should pay attention to my dreams. She also tells me that I do not have all the information and that I should dig deeper. And that I should move out of my comfort zone. She also tells me to protect knowledge, since knowledge in the wrong hand can cause major damage.

Ace of Swords - Spades - This card tells of a new beginning and even if I am worried or afraid that I should do what needs to be done anyway. That I should seek justice and truth and to not worry about any setbacks in progress. To stand up to the challenge before me, while focusing on clarity, insight, vision and honesty.

The Magician - This is a card that signifies regeneration and that it is within me to make a difference. That rather than dwelling on being victimized I should be aware of my own higher energy and power as well as any resources whether those are material or spiritual and then to tap into them to bring about the greater good. This card represents a call to action.

The Empress - The Emperor - The Hierophant all back up The High Priestess. These cards tell me that I am doing the right thing and have the blessings of my father (The Hierophant ) and grandfather (The Emperor) as well as the original sentinel who’s marked the area with his sign.

The Empress - My Own Card - Tells me that I am on the right track and that the power of love protects me as well as the significance of the power of love radiating outward from me to others. However, it is the power of my love that makes me vulnerable. (This make great sense to me since, even though what has been done - I do love he who‘s done the deed - T) She also tells me that things take time and to continue to nurture. This card tells me to trust and follow my intuition, to trust any messages as well as any warnings.

The Emperor - This card signifies to me the qualities of my paternal ancestors who’ve come before me. They have already established our family line. It represents my plea for their authority, wisdom and advice. It tells me that they do understand my need for their guidance, while also having the ability to tap into the/their spirits. They will guide me, and I must stick to the plan. It also tells me that I need to take time to rest in order to ground myself.

The Hierophant - This card signifies doing the right thing and playing by the rules. It is also one of my cards, which explains the feelings of being upset about the rules being broken no matter who is in charge. It is a card that represents the feelings of keeping balance for the entire group. This card backs up the feelings of being responsible and organized as well as taking the time to rest and gather strength.

The Hanged Man - This card tells me to be calm and sit still - to wait. It also tells me that I should let go of that which holds me back. (Letting go of the natural respect I have for T - he should in some way not be respected as an uncle as much as I‘ve been taught or that I feel.) It is time for deep contemplation as well as research. Things will change given time.

4 of Swords - Clubs - This card tells me to take the time to rest, while opening myself up to dreams and contemplation in order to gain a better perspective and to meditate for more answers or a better understanding. It is a reminder to me that yes, I am tired and I do need to slow down and rest in order to gain the strength I will need.

Knight of Cups - Jack of Hearts - This card is a messenger card and the message is good news. It is a reminder to me to not become too over-emotional. It speaks of the ability to read the feelings of others and with it a better understanding of whom the sentiments come from. It is another card that encourages me to be open and trusting of intuition and spiritual messages.

***
So, I just wanted to share with you - that you are right. The things that have come to pass are things that were meant to be (even if it hurts)

But, just because these things have happened, does not mean that they will stay the same. Things will change for the better. Things just take time and present themselves in their own time and there is no need to struggle (even if it PO's you off and causes upset). Calm down, relax and gather what's needed, while planning.

Whatever isn't dealt with here will be dealt with there.

( A message that my dad gave me to give uncle, but the time has not been right for me to do so, besides with the way I was raised not an easy thing to do, but T will know these are his brothers words and not my own. That is, He told me to tell his brother this: "We're all here, Waiting For You. We are going to have an as$-kicking party when you get here; and your the a$s!")

 

[Shortstack]

WOW, Sis. That last post is powerful. Your Daddy's message supports what I've heard before concerning the other side. I've heard that people who commit suicide in this life because of personal problems do not escape those problems. They are made to face the problems on the other side and DEAL with them.

When you "turned on the energy of the land"......I believe you connected with the spirits of all ancestors who had dealings with that land and they now know WHO you are and that you are a part of them. I think they will welcome you each time you return for a visit and to check on the place. I also believe that they will not let anyone else "fool around" with the place. Maybe T got that message and is why he told you that he wasn't going to mess with things anymore. Oh........and those mirrors you placed there should act as portals to and from the other side.

In a previous post, you wrote that whatever was hidden there, it was not gold or silver, but something more valuable; information. Information that could effect a lot of people over a very large area. Well, that's been kinda bugging me and it's finally dawned on me WHY. It is possible that you Granddaddy and his Daddy were entrusted with a KGC Library. It definitely WOULD effect a lot of people over a wide area.........in more ways than one. An archive library would not only contain detailed information of members of a group, but also details, maps, and codes to other vaults either in that section of the country OR possibly the entire country. Something like that would definitely cause an uproar of cosmic proportions. I could be wrong about what's there, but I have read somewhere that the KGC did have archival libraries assembled and hidden that contained names and amounts of contributions and their sources. As well as, the planned distributions of monies.

Bob Brewer's books would be pretty helpful to you in better understanding the framework of the KGC. Some folks think he is knowledgeable and others think he's NOT. I have his book REBEL GOLD and I think he's pretty right on with what he says. This book contains group photos of men who were family and friends of one another and what's REALLY interesting are the HAND SIGNS that some of the men are flashing in the pictures. He does not interpretate the signs, but it will give you an idea of what to look for as to initial signs. If there are any family photos of your Granddaddy and Daddy, look at their hands and fingers. Do any of them seem to be held unnaturally?? If so, then those would be your signs. Again, I don't know their meanings. What I have read and heard is that when one person shows a sign, there is a proper "answering" sign. Maybe someone on this forum could give you a little briefing by private messages about what to look for.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I feel I can already place signs. And the last time I talked to T, he told me that he'd not do anything else to the land - cutting trees / moving dirt and such. I said, "I reckon, that's as it should be considering what's been done." He just looked at me...

***

All this talking of cards got me wondering. So, I decided to read the cards about this situation. While, shuffling I asked the cards to talk to me, to tell me the things I needed to know right now as well asking them if I was doing the right thing about this situation. The card were not placed in their natural order since, I’d shuffled and used them before putting them up the last time they were used. I also should let you know that pulling high cards while reading cards is not unusual for me - it happens nearly every time I read.

I felt lead to not place a layout; but to turn the deck over in my hand to see what card was on the bottom.

The High Priestess sat gazing at me.
I then looked at the card on top and was greeted by the Ace of Swords.
Next, I picked up part of the deck and The Magician grinned back.

I then decided to take a look at what might be backing up the High Priestess and watching her back is The Empress, so I could not help but, to see what was backing up The Empress and find The Emperor and then behind him stands The Hierophant. Hmmm.

I turned the deck and checked the card sitting with the Ace of Swords and find The Hanged Man.

Then, I checked the card in front of The Magician and find the 4 of Swords, Then I looked to see who had The Magician’s back and was greeted by the Knight of Cups - Jack of Hearts.

The High Priestess - This card tells me to trust my inner knowledge and intuition, rather than my conscious mind. That I should pay attention to my dreams. She also tells me that I do not have all the information and that I should dig deeper. And that I should move out of my comfort zone. She also tells me to protect knowledge, since knowledge in the wrong hand can cause major damage.

Ace of Swords - Spades - This card tells of a new beginning and even if I am worried or afraid that I should do what needs to be done anyway. That I should seek justice and truth and to not worry about any setbacks in progress. To stand up to the challenge before me, while focusing on clarity, insight, vision and honesty.

The Magician - This is a card that signifies regeneration and that it is within me to make a difference. That rather than dwelling on being victimized I should be aware of my own higher energy and power as well as any resources whether those are material or spiritual and then to tap into them to bring about the greater good. This card represents a call to action.

The Empress - The Emperor - The Hierophant all back up The High Priestess. These cards tell me that I am doing the right thing and have the blessings of my father (The Hierophant ) and grandfather (The Emperor) as well as the original sentinel who’s marked the area with his sign.

The Empress - My Own Card - Tells me that I am on the right track and that the power of love protects me as well as the significance of the power of love radiating outward from me to others. However, it is the power of my love that makes me vulnerable. (This make great sense to me since, even though what has been done - I do love he who‘s done the deed - T) She also tells me that things take time and to continue to nurture. This card tells me to trust and follow my intuition, to trust any messages as well as any warnings.

The Emperor - This card signifies to me the qualities of my paternal ancestors who’ve come before me. They have already established our family line. It represents my plea for their authority, wisdom and advice. It tells me that they do understand my need for their guidance, while also having the ability to tap into the/their spirits. They will guide me, and I must stick to the plan. It also tells me that I need to take time to rest in order to ground myself.

The Hierophant - This card signifies doing the right thing and playing by the rules. It is also one of my cards, which explains the feelings of being upset about the rules being broken no matter who is in charge. It is a card that represents the feelings of keeping balance for the entire group. This card backs up the feelings of being responsible and organized as well as taking the time to rest and gather strength.

The Hanged Man - This card tells me to be calm and sit still - to wait. It also tells me that I should let go of that which holds me back. (Letting go of the natural respect I have for T - he should in some way not be respected as an uncle as much as I‘ve been taught or that I feel.) It is time for deep contemplation as well as research. Things will change given time.

4 of Swords - Clubs - This card tells me to take the time to rest, while opening myself up to dreams and contemplation in order to gain a better perspective and to meditate for more answers or a better understanding. It is a reminder to me that yes, I am tired and I do need to slow down and rest in order to gain the strength I will need.

Knight of Cups - Jack of Hearts - This card is a messenger card and the message is good news. It is a reminder to me to not become too over-emotional. It speaks of the ability to read the feelings of others and with it a better understanding of whom the sentiments come from. It is another card that encourages me to be open and trusting of intuition and spiritual messages.

***
So, I just wanted to share with you - that you are right. The things that have come to pass are things that were meant to be (even if it hurts)

But, just because these things have happened, does not mean that they will stay the same. Things will change for the better. Things just take time and present themselves in their own time and there is no need to struggle (even if it PO's you off and causes upset). Calm down, relax and gather what's needed, while planning.

Whatever isn't dealt with here will be dealt with there.

( A message that my dad gave me to give T, but the time has not been right for me to do so, besides with the way I was raised not an easy thing to do, but T will know these are his brothers words and not my own. That is, He told me to tell T this: "We're all Waiting For You. We are going to have an as$-kicking party when you get here; and your the a$s!")

Thoughts, comments and other perspectives welcome here...

LOL! What I "sense", too. Good luck to ya! KIT.

 

[releventchair]

Tired. Lots on the mind will do that! When i get too wrapped up in a lead with to many questions it becomes break time. Time varies but by not consciously dwelling on it my subconscious is and answers can turn up. Not all ways answers, and not all ways progressive. When i review it again another angle or previously missed clue can turn up. So a rest is o.k.,you are not likely to let your guard down and while it may feel like nothing is being deliberated, it can be.
Nice to know there is a place where the land agrees with you. Less of that with people today.
Take care sis.

 

[Sis]

Tired. Lots on the mind will do that! When i get too wrapped up in a lead with to many questions it becomes break time. Time varies but by not consciously dwelling on it my subconscious is and answers can turn up. Not all ways answers, and not all ways progressive. When i review it again another angle or previously missed clue can turn up. So a rest is o.k.,you are not likely to let your guard down and while it may feel like nothing is being deliberated, it can be.
Nice to know there is a place where the land agrees with you. Less of that with people today.
Take care sis.

I am tired. This is not something that's just happened it's been years in the making - and me not knowing what to do about something I Know Is Wrong.
I'm going to bed soon since the reading also uses energy.
Goodnight all, be back later...

 

[Shortstack]

Also, something strange - but, not so strange when you consider all these other things. While sitting in my car and uncle T sitting with the door open on the passenger side of his (talking about family photos and his not bothering our land) For no verbal reason I'd given him - He says, "I'm not ashamed of anything I've done." , while also averting his eyes away from me.

I just looked at him. I did not say what I was thinking or feeling as I did not want to ruffle his feathers. I just looked at him and it took a bit before he would answer my gaze with his own.

To you here I say, "If, you are unashamed would you avert your eyes?"
My answer is No, what say ye?

Sounds like he was trying to convince HIMSELF more than anything else. Deep down, he knows he's "screwed the pooch" and that he'll have a day of reckoning either on THIS side of the veil or the other. He will not be able to avoid it and that's on his mind.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Sis, you asked about markers, and them being normal to most except to those in the know.

A tree with a crooked branch, or maybe one with a couple of limbs removed off one side, a pile of rocks. A couple of old jack handles used for property markers.

Most folks would walk right past them with out giving em a seconds glance. Those trees are markers, pointing a direction, that pile of rocks are too, could be the same with your jack handles, for example. Those in the know, will know about em.

And just because a sentinel(s) aren't doing anything about old Uncle T doesn't mean they aren't still out there. Sometimes, at least in my case they already knew what was going to happen. They knew that some of the spoils would be lost, but the main treasure was still secure. Was already planned that way to get rid of the vultures. Like the old saying "You don't carry all your eggs in one basket"

My Grand Dad was dirt poor farmer. Junk equipment, never planted a crop, rarely had more then a few head of cattle.
The vultures gobbled up everything except the farm, nobody wanted it when he died. That is until the will reading and it was found out I was the only one allowed to buy it.

They raised holy hello because I was the only one allowed to buy it. They didn't care that I was buying it, they wanted me to pay more for it then my Grand Dad had stated, so they could get a bigger share in the estate. I paid the price. They took the money and everything else and ran with it. And within a year had blown it all.

Me I was just happy to have the farm. Didn't take too long for my Grand Dad's "Family" to make themselves known to me. First was the attorney, who floored me when he called me to come see him. Advised me of the crafty bugger my Grand Dad was, he had never sold the mineral rights to the farm, among other things. Let's just say I retired right after that meeting.

Or the section of property the original homestead was on. Good luck to you if you cross it. You'll get to meet some of the "family" and in no uncertain terms will you be escorted off of it. I've had friends who I've left hunt on the farm meet up with em. And boy did they make certain to inform my friends that NO ONE crossed that land. I got the same treatment too, until they learned who I was.

Or how bout the new homestead. Kinda weird there. Sold it as I didn't need something like that. Well it's on it third set of owners in 10 years. Things happen there. And folks don't stay too long. Beautiful place, but bad bad things happen to the owners. First two lost family there under strange circumstances. And have already heard of things with the third. Again someone is giving some serious warnings about who belongs there.


Sis if they are there, they will find you when the time is right, but it could be they are waiting for you to make the first move. You may have to prove to them that you are worthy of what lies waiting for you. Be smart, do what you have to do to let em know the rightful heir is coming home.

AGREE! ASAP!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Now, something else to consider.
Daddy died in 1992
Granddaddy died in 1993
Uncle G died in 1994
Uncle M died - 1995/96 about a year later or so maybe a year and a few months after Uncle G.

Daddy - first son
Uncle G - second son
Uncle M - third son
Uncle T - fourth son
Uncle Y - fifth son.

Anyone else sense a pattern here?
Or is it just me?

Go with yer "gut-feelings"...