LUE in Arizona proven to be KGC at MOON LAKE presentation

[oldtimetreasurelore]

The presentation I made at Moon Lake in August gave absolute proof the LUE is in Arizona. The code and/or call them clues seen on the USGS topo map actually spell out the name KGC. There were a few of the approximate 100 who view the presentation who couldn't get their head around what was shown and told me. Perhaps that was my fault, but several of the attendees tell me they duplicated my map work themselves and say there is no other explanation why the LUE map fit so perfectly on the Arizona maps. The three critical alignment points would fit no other place on earth. For you who were not able to attend one of the two presentations, please don't trash what you do not know, For you who chose to keep posting your theory please know you information will soon be obsolete.
We spent 32 years investigating and uncounted hours at field work in Arizona and spent a great amount of money during that time. Money we spent to make dozens of trips to and from my home in Arkansas and for equipment, RVs, vehicles, maps, motels, food etc for our team. We need recoup our expenses, so soon professionally produced DVDs of the Moon Lake presentation will be made available at major outlets for books, movies and DVDs.
People the LUE presentation is just one of the great legendry treasure mysteries we have solved. Next to be released is the undeniable evidence revealing the truth concerning the Legend of the Lost Confederate Treasury in Danville, VA. Ours will be a sequel to the HISTORY CHANNEL DECODED SHOW that aired in 2010, John London and I began decoding some of the clues on that documentary. The hunt was much more than could be shown in one segment, but after several return trips to Danville we worked the puzzle to the end.
Our final disclosure will present the complete solution to the JESSE JAMES TWO MILLION TREASURE LEGEND, near Lawton in Comanche County, Oklahoma.
If anyone seriously wants to publicly cry foul over what was written here, I challenge any television or movie producer to make me prove it. Whom ever will take these claims and disclose them to the public can change history. So be it!
A reminder to everyone, time running short for me I am 86 years old and the only one my team and I know of that's able to decode 90% of all authentic treasure maps. Not bragging just stating facts. Try me!
Bob Brewer, Author, Videographer, television personality, Hollywood movie consultant, Professional Treasure hunter and consultant to world famous treasure hunters, you would know..
Please know I have very poor eyesight and errors may be found. Wait till you are my age to nag about that.

 

[bc5391]

The Lue Map and the Nazi Connection

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[Puff the Tragic Wagon]

We need recoup our expenses, so soon professionally produced DVDs of the Moon Lake presentation will be made available at major outlets for books, movies and DVDs.

I only have one question.

If you’ve located all these treasures… why do you need to sell books and dvds to “recoup expenses”? 🤔

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

I only have one question.

If you’ve located all these treasures… why do you need to sell books and dvds to “recoup expenses”? 🤔

Puff I know you have posted about the LUE on this forum, none of which is correct. Really I could care less if people like you would buy them. If you noticed I aimed my post a someone who could air the proof of what is said to record the unknown history of the KBC and it's real name for prosperity Like I keep saying when I cash out of this world the secrets die with me. However, you are 100% correct, we have no need for more money. At our age my wife (90) me (86) have everything we ever needed or wanted. I intend to leave the proceeds to my 16 Grand and 24 Great Grand kids.
I believe anyone who is interested in knowing the truth about the most mysterious treasure legends in the world, would not hesitate to purchase the solution to each one proven to be a done deal. The DVDs will include photos of the clues needed to work the puzzles, GPS coordinates/waypoints are shown on USGS topo maps, and a full explanations to how each clue was used. If you are too cheap to buy the DVD, just keep on reading about the treasures and wishing you could find some.
The DVD is actually a tutorial which can actually teach you to become a REAL TREASURE HUNTER, meaning, one who could and should find treasure at hundreds of other KGC depositories across America, I don't know your age, but when I was young the old folks had a saying, "You and lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."
I make that offer again, I will wager any $ amount you will match to prove me wrong. If everyone is like you and think I should freely give (75 years) of my lifetime of work away, then maybe I won't produce the DVDs at all. . . I guarantee you will never solve the LUE or any of the others I mentioned without the clues we have found, many of which are gone by now.
No more lengthy posts from me. My wife is in a Re-hap facility and I don't have time for this right now.
HBBB

 

[Puff the Tragic Wagon]

Puff I know you have posted about the LUE on this forum, none of which is correct. Really I could care less if people like you would buy them. If you noticed I aimed my post a someone who could air the proof of what is said to record the unknown history of the KBC and it's real name for prosperity Like I keep saying when I cash out of this world the secrets die with me. However, you are 100% correct, we have no need for more money. At our age my wife (90) me (86) have everything we ever needed or wanted. I intend to leave the proceeds to my 16 Grand and 24 Great Grand kids.
I believe anyone who is interested in knowing the truth about the most mysterious treasure legends in the world, would not hesitate to purchase the solution to each one proven to be a done deal. The DVDs will include photos of the clues needed to work the puzzles, GPS coordinates/waypoints are shown on USGS topo maps, and a full explanations to how each clue was used. If you are too cheap to buy the DVD, just keep on reading about the treasures and wishing you could find some.
The DVD is actually a tutorial which can actually teach you to become a REAL TREASURE HUNTER, meaning, one who could and should find treasure at hundreds of other KGC depositories across America, I don't know your age, but when I was young the old folks had a saying, "You and lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."
I make that offer again, I will wager any $ amount you will match to prove me wrong. If everyone is like you and think I should freely give (75 years) of my lifetime of work away, then maybe I won't produce the DVDs at all. . . I guarantee you will never solve the LUE or any of the others I mentioned without the clues we have found, many of which are gone by now.
No more lengthy posts from me. My wife is in a Re-hap facility and I don't have time for this right now.
HBBB

Mr. Brewer, you are mistaken in thinking I’m a treasure hunter. But I was raised to respect my elders so I’ll just wish you luck and good health. I won’t be buying any of your dvds or books though, I’ll leave that to all the other Big Time Treasure Hunters.

Merry Christmas and good day to you sir.

 

[mdog]

The presentation I made at Moon Lake in August gave absolute proof the LUE is in Arizona. The code and/or call them clues seen on the USGS topo map actually spell out the name KGC. There were a few of the approximate 100 who view the presentation who couldn't get their head around what was shown and told me. Perhaps that was my fault, but several of the attendees tell me they duplicated my map work themselves and say there is no other explanation why the LUE map fit so perfectly on the Arizona maps. The three critical alignment points would fit no other place on earth. For you who were not able to attend one of the two presentations, please don't trash what you do not know, For you who chose to keep posting your theory please know you information will soon be obsolete.
We spent 32 years investigating and uncounted hours at field work in Arizona and spent a great amount of money during that time. Money we spent to make dozens of trips to and from my home in Arkansas and for equipment, RVs, vehicles, maps, motels, food etc for our team. We need recoup our expenses, so soon professionally produced DVDs of the Moon Lake presentation will be made available at major outlets for books, movies and DVDs.
People the LUE presentation is just one of the great legendry treasure mysteries we have solved. Next to be released is the undeniable evidence revealing the truth concerning the Legend of the Lost Confederate Treasury in Danville, VA. Ours will be a sequel to the HISTORY CHANNEL DECODED SHOW that aired in 2010, John London and I began decoding some of the clues on that documentary. The hunt was much more than could be shown in one segment, but after several return trips to Danville we worked the puzzle to the end.
Our final disclosure will present the complete solution to the JESSE JAMES TWO MILLION TREASURE LEGEND, near Lawton in Comanche County, Oklahoma.
If anyone seriously wants to publicly cry foul over what was written here, I challenge any television or movie producer to make me prove it. Whom ever will take these claims and disclose them to the public can change history. So be it!
A reminder to everyone, time running short for me I am 86 years old and the only one my team and I know of that's able to decode 90% of all authentic treasure maps. Not bragging just stating facts. Try me!
Bob Brewer, Author, Videographer, television personality, Hollywood movie consultant, Professional Treasure hunter and consultant to world famous treasure hunters, you would know..
Please know I have very poor eyesight and errors may be found. Wait till you are my age to nag about that.

I'M TYPING IN CAPITAL LETTERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE STATED THAT YOUR EYES ARE BAD. ALSO, SORRY TO HEAR YOUR WIFE IS IN REHAB. I HOPE SHE RECOVERS FROM HER AILMENTS. YOU AND HER MUST HAVE HAD AN EXCITING LIFE TOGETHER.

I NEVER SAW YOUR PRESENTATION IN UTAH, BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR EVIDENCE IS ABOUT THE LUE IN ARIZONA. IF YOUR DVD ISN'T TOO EXPENSIVE, I LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING IT. I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU UP ON YOUR CHALLENGE TO TRY YOUR DECODING ABILITIES. WHAT IS ON THE MAP THAT TOOK YOU TO ARIZONA? THE CLOSEST I EVER GOT TO ARIZONA WAS 13 MILES ABOVE THE FOUR CORNERS BORDERS, THANKS TO A TIP FROM POINTHUNTER, AND THE BIG LUE RANCH ON ARIZONA'S EASTERN BORDER.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME, BOB. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU SHARE SO MUCH INFORMATION.

 

[creskol]

I am not at all familiar with this topic, but I do find it intriguing and have used this discussion as a way to learn. After reading about it online, it would seem to me that claims such as this would rely on independently verifiable and reproducible evidence, although I may be way off with that assumption. My question is this: in this type of treasure hunting, are map overlays, visual alignments, and interpreted symbols, without fixed coordinates, generally considered proof? Thanks.

 

[sdcfia]

I am not at all familiar with this topic, but I do find it intriguing and have used this discussion as a way to learn. After reading about it online, it would seem to me that claims such as this would rely on independently verifiable and reproducible evidence, although I may be way off with that assumption. My question is this: in this type of treasure hunting, are map overlays, visual alignments, and interpreted symbols, without fixed coordinates, generally considered proof? Thanks.

Premise: Overlays, alignments and symbols can be shown to point directly to the loot.

Question: With tools readily available at the time, why not use exact surveyed fixed coordinates instead?

Response: _____

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

I only have one question.

If you’ve located all these treasures… why do you need to sell books and dvds to “recoup expenses”? 🤔

I'm too lazy to go back and check. Did he say he located them and recovered anything? Or just thinks he can explain everything. Perhaps his reveal will be where it all went or never was?

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

I'M TYPING IN CAPITAL LETTERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE STATED THAT YOUR EYES ARE BAD. ALSO, SORRY TO HEAR YOUR WIFE IS IN REHAB. I HOPE SHE RECOVERS FROM HER AILMENTS. YOU AND HER MUST HAVE HAD AN EXCITING LIFE TOGETHER.

I NEVER SAW YOUR PRESENTATION IN UTAH, BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR EVIDENCE IS ABOUT THE LUE IN ARIZONA. IF YOUR DVD ISN'T TOO EXPENSIVE, I LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING IT. I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU UP ON YOUR CHALLENGE TO TRY YOUR DECODING ABILITIES. WHAT IS ON THE MAP THAT TOOK YOU TO ARIZONA? THE CLOSEST I EVER GOT TO ARIZONA WAS 13 MILES ABOVE THE FOUR CORNERS BORDERS, THANKS TO A TIP FROM POINTHUNTER, AND THE BIG LUE RANCH ON ARIZONA'S EASTERN BORDER.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME, BOB. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU SHARE SO MUCH INFORMATION.

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How did you know you were working on the LUE? Few of the KGC treasures are named but locations are given, only once in a while will you know what the treasure is from coded carvings or on maps.

Honestly, the chart or map we were working on was named the Arizona Desert Treasure. It was about 10 years, say from about 1994 until about 2002 or2004, I don't have the date handy, but it is on video. where we were following a waybill telling how Jesse James (KGC) sent an insured shipment of gold by train to AZ. The shipment was insured for $400,000 and when it was near the place with pre-planned burial vault, the shipment was robbed by the KGC and buried in said vault, the vault was at Adamsville (ghost town 1890s) AZ. We have video of two digs we made there, one was a shaft that had map clues every foot for 33 feet, the other was of us digging up the concrete vault 3 x 5 x12 feet, where we found the complete map to the LUE .One clue was an old medicine bottle half full of black sand with gold particles all through it and corked tight, the bottom of the bottle originally had the words BLUE RIBBON embossed on its bottom, the bottle had been heated until almost molten and the B -LUERIBB-ON were scrubbed out a map was drawn in the soft glass with a knife point or similar.
I have changed my mind about making DVDs, I will put the PowerPoint shown at Moon Lake in an eBook on Amazon selling for about 10 bucks. That is if I live long enough, going into my 87th year in a few days. I have more important things on my mind right now. but you can take what I say to the bank, no way it is not the correct solution to the LUE puzzle,

I would say nobody has ever touched a cache of the LUE, Reason being every clue needed to find the caches was still in place, probably because of them being located in places you can’t drive to or get heavy equipment to, but mainly left alone because nobody I have known who hunted treasure knew what KGC clues actually are. I would never know them myself except I grew up with a family of a Confederate son and grandson. Both were guarding the depository; we lived in the center of for many years. Too much for a lot of you who don't know my history to comprehend but it’s all true. read the book Rebel gold for a sampling of my lifetime of treasure hunting, ever word in it is gospel. I won't post a pic of the bottle because of the map on it, the code for LUE being who owns the gold and RIB meaning Adamsville, code in Genesis, it tells us God made Eve from Adam's rib. Extra B is a clue to one of the caches which there are many off a cast iron B was in the vault with the other pieces of the map. You must understand maps can be made of anything. The LUE map is shards of glass, pieces of ceramic plates, bottles, cups, parts of machinery etc., each a clue to another step along the trail in the desert. The three clues used to positively align KVM LUE map are the eye, the shadow arrow on the pyramid and the line of steps from the lower left side to the center point. Long ago I posted photos of Buzzard Roost which is just east past the Milk Ranch Road. The top of the outcrop is a skull telling who owns the LUE, there is a five-point star amplifying that ownership and a huge heart indicating the treasure is gold.that heart is the one you are supposed to look for as told by the mis-spelled word on the Peralta Stone Map, yes those stones are part of the clues to find the LUE caches. On the roost, It's hard to get the letters L U E in shadow sign being fully visible only for about 3 days a year in June. But the L and U are run together to make it less likely anyone would notice unless they really looked for them.
I said no more long posts, so that's it. I write all my posts in Word then copy and paste them to help eliminate errors which I make plenty when I write. thank God I have a good editor for my books in work. Found a couple of the slides from the MOONLAKE deal... Notice they are of the same place just not exactly to scale this was drawn from verbal directions from J. Frank Dalton who was the real Jesse James comptroller of the Rebel Underground Army after 1865, Think KGC which went underground in 1862-63. Pick at what is said all you want but you would get closer to finding a real treasure if you paid attention to what I've been saying for 78 years, just think about all the others who have posted photos of the clues on here. THE REBEL TREASURES ARE REAL!!! Look at it this way, if you hunt and hunt but never find it, try doing something different! Tons of gold out there and several have been recovered and more are yet to come.

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

Puff I know you have posted about the LUE on this forum, none of which is correct. Really I could care less if people like you would buy them. If you noticed I aimed my post a someone who could air the proof of what is said to record the unknown history of the KBC and it's real name for prosperity Like I keep saying when I cash out of this world the secrets die with me. However, you are 100% correct, we have no need for more money. At our age my wife (90) me (86) have everything we ever needed or wanted. I intend to leave the proceeds to my 16 Grand and 24 Great Grand kids.
I believe anyone who is interested in knowing the truth about the most mysterious treasure legends in the world, would not hesitate to purchase the solution to each one proven to be a done deal. The DVDs will include photos of the clues needed to work the puzzles, GPS coordinates/waypoints are shown on USGS topo maps, and a full explanations to how each clue was used. If you are too cheap to buy the DVD, just keep on reading about the treasures and wishing you could find some.
The DVD is actually a tutorial which can actually teach you to become a REAL TREASURE HUNTER, meaning, one who could and should find treasure at hundreds of other KGC depositories across America, I don't know your age, but when I was young the old folks had a saying, "You and lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."
I make that offer again, I will wager any $ amount you will match to prove me wrong. If everyone is like you and think I should freely give (75 years) of my lifetime of work away, then maybe I won't produce the DVDs at all. . . I guarantee you will never solve the LUE or any of the others I mentioned without the clues we have found, many of which are gone by now.
No more lengthy posts from me. My wife is in a Re-hap facility and I don't have time for this right now.
HBBB

FORGOT TO SAY SUBSCRIBE TO MY YOU TUBE CHANNEL FIND IT BY SEARCHING FOR jESSES JAMES TREASURE MAP TREE.
IN THE NEAR FUTURE I WILL BE ADDING MORE VIDEO TO THE CHANNEL IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SUBSCRIBE TO IT. .

HBBB

 

[Puff the Tragic Wagon]

I'm too lazy to go back and check. Did he say he located them and recovered anything? Or just thinks he can explain everything. Perhaps his reveal will be where it all went or never was?

I suppose it’s possible, but since you’re too lazy to go back and read the post & I’ve already lost interest, we may never know. Your question would be better directed at Mr. Brewer for clarification, in any case. Good luck.👍

 

[mdog]

I am not at all familiar with this topic, but I do find it intriguing and have used this discussion as a way to learn. After reading about it online, it would seem to me that claims such as this would rely on independently verifiable and reproducible evidence, although I may be way off with that assumption. My question is this: in this type of treasure hunting, are map overlays, visual alignments, and interpreted symbols, without fixed coordinates, generally considered proof? Thanks.

How did you know you were working on the LUE? Few of the KGC treasures are named but locations are given, only once in a while will you know what the treasure is from coded carvings or on maps.

Honestly, the chart or map we were working on was named the Arizona Desert Treasure. It was about 10 years, say from about 1994 until about 2002 or2004, I don't have the date handy, but it is on video. where we were following a waybill telling how Jesse James (KGC) sent an insured shipment of gold by train to AZ. The shipment was insured for $400,000 and when it was near the place with pre-planned burial vault, the shipment was robbed by the KGC and buried in said vault, the vault was at Adamsville (ghost town 1890s) AZ. We have video of two digs we made there, one was a shaft that had map clues every foot for 33 feet, the other was of us digging up the concrete vault 3 x 5 x12 feet, where we found the complete map to the LUE .One clue was an old medicine bottle half full of black sand with gold particles all through it and corked tight, the bottom of the bottle originally had the words BLUE RIBBON embossed on its bottom, the bottle had been heated until almost molten and the B -LUERIBB-ON were scrubbed out a map was drawn in the soft glass with a knife point or similar.
I have changed my mind about making DVDs, I will put the PowerPoint shown at Moon Lake in an eBook on Amazon selling for about 10 bucks. That is if I live long enough, going into my 87th year in a few days. I have more important things on my mind right now. but you can take what I say to the bank, no way it is not the correct solution to the LUE puzzle,

I would say nobody has ever touched a cache of the LUE, Reason being every clue needed to find the caches was still in place, probably because of them being located in places you can’t drive to or get heavy equipment to, but mainly left alone because nobody I have known who hunted treasure knew what KGC clues actually are. I would never know them myself except I grew up with a family of a Confederate son and grandson. Both were guarding the depository; we lived in the center of for many years. Too much for a lot of you who don't know my history to comprehend but it’s all true. read the book Rebel gold for a sampling of my lifetime of treasure hunting, ever word in it is gospel. I won't post a pic of the bottle because of the map on it, the code for LUE being who owns the gold and RIB meaning Adamsville, code in Genesis, it tells us God made Eve from Adam's rib. Extra B is a clue to one of the caches which there are many off a cast iron B was in the vault with the other pieces of the map. You must understand maps can be made of anything. The LUE map is shards of glass, pieces of ceramic plates, bottles, cups, parts of machinery etc., each a clue to another step along the trail in the desert. The three clues used to positively align KVM LUE map are the eye, the shadow arrow on the pyramid and the line of steps from the lower left side to the center point. Long ago I posted photos of Buzzard Roost which is just east past the Milk Ranch Road. The top of the outcrop is a skull telling who owns the LUE, there is a five-point star amplifying that ownership and a huge heart indicating the treasure is gold.that heart is the one you are supposed to look for as told by the mis-spelled word on the Peralta Stone Map, yes those stones are part of the clues to find the LUE caches. On the roost, It's hard to get the letters L U E in shadow sign being fully visible only for about 3 days a year in June. But the L and U are run together to make it less likely anyone would notice unless they really looked for them.
I said no more long posts, so that's it. I write all my posts in Word then copy and paste them to help eliminate errors which I make plenty when I write. thank God I have a good editor for my books in work. Found a couple of the slides from the MOONLAKE deal... Notice they are of the same place just not exactly to scale this was drawn from verbal directions from J. Frank Dalton who was the real Jesse James comptroller of the Rebel Underground Army after 1865, Think KGC which went underground in 1862-63. Pick at what is said all you want but you would get closer to finding a real treasure if you paid attention to what I've been saying for 78 years, just think about all the others who have posted photos of the clues on here. THE REBEL TREASURES ARE REAL!!! Look at it this way, if you hunt and hunt but never find it, try doing something different! Tons of gold out there and several have been recovered and more are yet to come.

THE LUE MAP TOOK ME TO THE BIG LUE RANCH IN EAST ARIZONA. POINTHUNTER SUGGESTED I LOOK AT THE FOUR CORNERS LOCATION, AT THE UTAH, COLORADO, NEW MEXICO AND ARIZONA BORDERS. YOU CAN SEE ON THE LUE MAP THAT THERE ARE FOUR CORNERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP. THE MAP IS ORIENTED WITH SOUTH AT THE TOP. JUST BELOW THE CENTER OF THE MAP ARE 13 SHORT LINES TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS THE BOTTOM OF THE MAP, EACH OF THESE SHORT LINES IS 1 MILE. ONE OF THE SUN RAYS IS 180 DEGREES. 180 DEGREES FROM THE 13 MILE MARK ABOVE THE FOUR CORNERS, TAKES YOU TO THE BIG LUE RANCH IN ARIZONA.

FROM YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE BUZZARD ROOST SKULL AND FIVE POINTED STAR, YOU MUST THINK THE MASONIC TEMPLARS OWN THE SITE. THE FIVE POINTS ON THE STAR CAN SYMBOLIZE THE FIVE WOUNDS OF CHRIST, OR THE BLOOD OF CHRIST. YOU CAN SEE ON THE LUE MAP THAT THE STEPS HAVE 5 POINTS AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW OF THE MOUNTAIN RANGE SANGRE DE CRISTOS, BLOOD OF CHRIST. THE MAP'S ORIENTATION PUTS EAST ON THE LEFT, SO STARTING IN THE EAST AND GOING WEST, YOU WILL ENCOUNTER THE SANGRE DE CRISTOS RANGE FIRST AND THEN THE FOUR CORNERS, FURTHER WEST.

I DISAGREE ABOUT THE SYMBOL YOU SAY IS AN EYE. THE PUPIL OF AN EYE WOULDN'T BE OVER THE LOWER LID. I THINK IT'S AN "AS ABOVE, SO BELOW" SYMBOL, INDICATING THAT CELESTIAL COORDINATES CAN BE CALCULATED TO TERRESTRIAL COORDINATES. THE STEPS AND THE SHALLOW CURVE CAN BE USED TO FIND THE CELESTIAL COORDINATES, ALONG WITH THE VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL BARS IN THE UPPER RIGHT QUADRANT OF THE MAP. ONE OF THESE CELESTIAL COORDINATES IS 5H 16M 41S AND 37 DEG NORTH, THAT CALCULATES WITH THE TERRESTRIAL COORDINATES OF 37 DEG N AND 79 DEG W. THESE ARE THE SAME COORDINATES, IN DEGREES, AS THE TOWN OF MONTVALE, VIRGINIA, WHICH IS MENTIONED IN THE LEGEND ABOUT THE BEALE TREASURE AND WHO SOME BELIEVE IS A MASONIC LEGEND.

ANYWAY, THE LUE MAP DOES REVEAL LOCATIONS AND COORDINATES WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO THE FIELD.

ACCORDING TO VON MUELLER, LUE STANDS FOR LLORO URRACA ENTERRARI, I CRY, MAGPIE, BURIAL. HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN LEAVING A CLUE TO THE PIONEER URRACA CEMETERY ON THE WEST SIDE OF BLANCA PEAK IN COLORADO.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE MAP'S HISTORY, UNTIL THEN.......

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

mdog you will someday learn what you now don't know. I offered to bet any amount of money for someone to prove me wrong. If you are so sure you have the LUE located please explain how the depository is laid out and the exact dimensions of the whole treasure region. if you can't do that then you are guessing at all you say.. You have found the big Lue mountains and I suppose the ranch and spring too. Those places are close to the LUE master line from the bottom of the huge pyramid made on the topo map by the legs of the masonic compass. KVM didn't know squat about where the LUE was located, only once did he write something he was told about a couple who found something in AZ that was supposed to have been part of the LUE. He tried to rationalize the letters L U E into Spanish, I too at one time had another explanation for them until I found the true meaning of the letters. They stand for UPPER LEFT EXTERMITY which is where the KT wore their red cross on the left upper arm. Your are at a disadvantage in this mystery because you didn't view my presentation in Utah. This is a very difficult puzzle to get into your head. but one day you will see the solution and slap a dent in your forehead when you finally get it. I have come to the conclusion few if any treasure hunters really know what KGC treasure lore is all about.. The ones who made the treasure depositories all over America were geniuses at using almost anything as a clue. Think of it almost as a scavenger hunt game. They tell you what to find by using a clue that will make you think of what you need to find. their maps are all heavily coded and are near impossible to read without some esoteric knowledge which is impossible to know if you was not told how it works. Today there is nobody around,, that I know of, who could explain how the system works. I happened to be raised with an old KGC sentinel and his family. I wasn't told a lot but I saw plenty and knew what they were doing, but not why they did it. That came at a later stage in my life.
Many of the clues are in plain sight and have been for a hundred years or more. the reason they remain in place and easy to find is nobody knows what to look for.
I'm attaching a photo showing the LUE on a topo map on the KT left arm. The final clue to a very large cache in AZ is that cross in the sleeve. You can go to that place on the map and find many warning signs to keep out of the area. Go see for yourself and plan how you would go about digging about 100 feet to get at what is near that gate. There are plenty of clues in plain sight but you likely won't notice them.
bedtime for old fossils.
this broken cup handle has a tiny golden ciccle on it made with pure gold as are the little streaks near it, the hole in the handle is shaped like a railroad tunnel and the curvature of the piece is exactly like the curve the tunnel make through the mountain it goes through, notice all the lines used to outline this KT are on the topo almost exactly like the drawing, the skull is a warning and while there 2 armed people were dropped off by helicopter just over a ridge from us, they walked straight to us and asked why we were there. I said it was a free country. more to that so read one of my books. . bottle from the concrete vault we dug up, BLUE RIBBON is altered by heating the glass to near molten state and the B and ON were rubbed out. That is all for now. Don't trash this until you think about it. this is real KGC work.
HBBB

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[oldtimetreasurelore]

I have said this before but maybe it needs repeating. The so called Peralta Stone maps are used to find the proper area to use the LUE map. The Horse tablet shows the eye on the LUE map the whole horse iw outlined in the topography of the 1900 Florence, AZ topo available online the some call it a priest others say a witch, but it is a Knight Templar. Look on map for the horse's nose touching Queen creek, the rest will then become obvious to those with an eye for abstract art and an open mind.
HBBB

 

[mdog]

mdog you will someday learn what you now don't know. I offered to bet any amount of money for someone to prove me wrong. If you are so sure you have the LUE located please explain how the depository is laid out and the exact dimensions of the whole treasure region. if you can't do that then you are guessing at all you say.. You have found the big Lue mountains and I suppose the ranch and spring too. Those places are close to the LUE master line from the bottom of the huge pyramid made on the topo map by the legs of the masonic compass. KVM didn't know squat about where the LUE was located, only once did he write something he was told about a couple who found something in AZ that was supposed to have been part of the LUE. He tried to rationalize the letters L U E into Spanish, I too at one time had another explanation for them until I found the true meaning of the letters. They stand for UPPER LEFT EXTERMITY which is where the KT wore their red cross on the left upper arm. Your are at a disadvantage in this mystery because you didn't view my presentation in Utah. This is a very difficult puzzle to get into your head. but one day you will see the solution and slap a dent in your forehead when you finally get it. I have come to the conclusion few if any treasure hunters really know what KGC treasure lore is all about.. The ones who made the treasure depositories all over America were geniuses at using almost anything as a clue. Think of it almost as a scavenger hunt game. They tell you what to find by using a clue that will make you think of what you need to find. their maps are all heavily coded and are near impossible to read without some esoteric knowledge which is impossible to know if you was not told how it works. Today there is nobody around,, that I know of, who could explain how the system works. I happened to be raised with an old KGC sentinel and his family. I wasn't told a lot but I saw plenty and knew what they were doing, but not why they did it. That came at a later stage in my life.
Many of the clues are in plain sight and have been for a hundred years or more. the reason they remain in place and easy to find is nobody knows what to look for.
I'm attaching a photo showing the LUE on a topo map on the KT left arm. The final clue to a very large cache in AZ is that cross in the sleeve. You can go to that place on the map and find many warning signs to keep out of the area. Go see for yourself and plan how you would go about digging about 100 feet to get at what is near that gate. There are plenty of clues in plain sight but you likely won't notice them.
bedtime for old fossils.
this broken cup handle has a tiny golden ciccle on it made with pure gold as are the little streaks near it, the hole in the handle is shaped like a railroad tunnel and the curvature of the piece is exactly like the curve the tunnel make through the mountain it goes through, notice all the lines used to outline this KT are on the topo almost exactly like the drawing, the skull is a warning and while there 2 armed people were dropped off by helicopter just over a ridge from us, they walked straight to us and asked why we were there. I said it was a free country. more to that so read one of my books. . bottle from the concrete vault we dug up, BLUE RIBBON is altered by heating the glass to near molten state and the B and ON were rubbed out. That is all for now. Don't trash this until you think about it. this is real KGC work.
HBBB
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I've never been to Arizona, but here's a guess on the layout. On the north, eye, snail shape (like the one on your Jesse James tree), OR (French for gold but also a numerical value of 33), the numbers 7 21 45 (Zerelda James birthday), small carved heart, AF inside a carved box and pointing south. 120 yards SW at 245 deg, a heart shaped boulder. 415 yards SE at 127 deg, a very large turtle with a shadow 7 on its head and a large rock heart on its back. 273 yards W at 264 deg, a small carved turtle with a snake attached to it. 30 yards S at 198 deg is where I would dig if it weren't for the guys with the guns telling me not to. From the N point to the S point is 365 yards at 190 deg.

 

[releventchair]

mdog you will someday learn what you now don't know. I offered to bet any amount of money for someone to prove me wrong. If you are so sure you have the LUE located please explain how the depository is laid out and the exact dimensions of the whole treasure region. if you can't do that then you are guessing at all you say.. You have found the big Lue mountains and I suppose the ranch and spring too. Those places are close to the LUE master line from the bottom of the huge pyramid made on the topo map by the legs of the masonic compass. KVM didn't know squat about where the LUE was located, only once did he write something he was told about a couple who found something in AZ that was supposed to have been part of the LUE. He tried to rationalize the letters L U E into Spanish, I too at one time had another explanation for them until I found the true meaning of the letters. They stand for UPPER LEFT EXTERMITY which is where the KT wore their red cross on the left upper arm. Your are at a disadvantage in this mystery because you didn't view my presentation in Utah. This is a very difficult puzzle to get into your head. but one day you will see the solution and slap a dent in your forehead when you finally get it. I have come to the conclusion few if any treasure hunters really know what KGC treasure lore is all about.. The ones who made the treasure depositories all over America were geniuses at using almost anything as a clue. Think of it almost as a scavenger hunt game. They tell you what to find by using a clue that will make you think of what you need to find. their maps are all heavily coded and are near impossible to read without some esoteric knowledge which is impossible to know if you was not told how it works. Today there is nobody around,, that I know of, who could explain how the system works. I happened to be raised with an old KGC sentinel and his family. I wasn't told a lot but I saw plenty and knew what they were doing, but not why they did it. That came at a later stage in my life.
Many of the clues are in plain sight and have been for a hundred years or more. the reason they remain in place and easy to find is nobody knows what to look for.
I'm attaching a photo showing the LUE on a topo map on the KT left arm. The final clue to a very large cache in AZ is that cross in the sleeve. You can go to that place on the map and find many warning signs to keep out of the area. Go see for yourself and plan how you would go about digging about 100 feet to get at what is near that gate. There are plenty of clues in plain sight but you likely won't notice them.
bedtime for old fossils.
this broken cup handle has a tiny golden ciccle on it made with pure gold as are the little streaks near it, the hole in the handle is shaped like a railroad tunnel and the curvature of the piece is exactly like the curve the tunnel make through the mountain it goes through, notice all the lines used to outline this KT are on the topo almost exactly like the drawing, the skull is a warning and while there 2 armed people were dropped off by helicopter just over a ridge from us, they walked straight to us and asked why we were there. I said it was a free country. more to that so read one of my books. . bottle from the concrete vault we dug up, BLUE RIBBON is altered by heating the glass to near molten state and the B and ON were rubbed out. That is all for now. Don't trash this until you think about it. this is real KGC work.
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Hey; why are you insulting mdog?
Huh. Must be how you communicate with guests? Alright then.

By describing the teacup handle and pontil area of the bottle as REAL KGB work; the only thing proven is that YOU are over the rainbow.
Please post any ACTUAL LUE evidence to the contrary. Better yet , post how bottle ;pontils are reheated and modified instead of a gazillion other methods of leaving info.
Not "it's real KGC work " either. How a bottle is given a crease by reheating and how rubbing letters off molten glass is done.

Look carefully at old pictures of KBB suspects.
The ones with the curled up hands from carpel tunnel are probably the bottle wrinkle creators and letter rubber offers!
Till then if you can ; use a hat out in the sun and quit claiming you have proven any LUE treasure exists.

Speaking of rub. Look for the 3 AZ KGB facing South. A knife. A loaf of bread. And a flame. You've likely already seen it. After all you're all seeing all knowing Re; LEU.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=07d4...pcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvUnViLUEtRHViLUR1Yg&ntb=1
{"Rub-a-dub-dub" or sometimes just "rub-a-dub" is Cockney rhyming slang for "pub".}
["Rub-a-dub-dub" is an English language nursery rhyme first published at the end of the 18th century in volume two of Hook's Christmas Box<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rub-a-dub-dub#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> under the title "Dub a dub dub" rather than "Rub a dub dub". It has a Roud Folk Song Index number of 3101.

Rub-a-dub-dub,
Three men in a tub,
And who do you think they be?
The butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker,
And all of them out to sea.]

 

[Carl-NC]

by heating the glass to near molten state and the B and ON were rubbed out.

Odessa Goodwin.
I also get tickled by people who still take the Peralta stones seriously.

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

Well everyone to their opinion. But a closed mind shows ignorance, at least give some thought to what I post. We have been there for many years and have used the P maps to discover the secrets of the Arizona Desert treasures. I am guessing but evidently you have not explored the desert and base opinion on what you think you know about treasure lore. Perhaps when we offer more proof you will be a believer too.
Keep hunting good luck
HBBB

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

Hey; why are you insulting mdog?
Huh. Must be how you communicate with guests? Alright then.

By describing the teacup handle and pontil area of the bottle as REAL KGB work; the only thing proven is that YOU are over the rainbow.
Please post any ACTUAL LUE evidence to the contrary. Better yet , post how bottle ;pontils are reheated and modified instead of a gazillion other methods of leaving info.
Not "it's real KGC work " either. How a bottle is given a crease by reheating and how rubbing letters off molten glass is done.

Look carefully at old pictures of KBB suspects.
The ones with the curled up hands from carpel tunnel are probably the bottle wrinkle creators and letter rubber offers!
Till then if you can ; use a hat out in the sun and quit claiming you have proven any LUE treasure exists.

Speaking of rub. Look for the 3 AZ KGB facing South. A knife. A loaf of bread. And a flame. You've likely already seen it. After all you're all seeing all knowing Re; LEU.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=07d4...pcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvUnViLUEtRHViLUR1Yg&ntb=1
{"Rub-a-dub-dub" or sometimes just "rub-a-dub" is Cockney rhyming slang for "pub".}
["Rub-a-dub-dub" is an English language nursery rhyme first published at the end of the 18th century in volume two of Hook's Christmas Box<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rub-a-dub-dub#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> under the title "Dub a dub dub" rather than "Rub a dub dub". It has a Roud Folk Song Index number of 3101.

Rub-a-dub-dub,
Three men in a tub,
And who do you think they be?
The butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker,
And all of them out to sea.]

Reb, I respect mdog's and you opinion too. I repeat there are many thing you just don't know about real successful treasure hunting. I can assure you the clues I posted are actual clues dug out of the concrete vault in AZ. Somehow I thought some on the forum were ready to learn how the KGC made treasure maps. If you won't accept the truth when you see it, if you are expecting to find treasure you will give up or die first. I copied you record on the forum, May 9, 2012, Messages28,369,Reaction score100,492, that leads me to think you get all your information here. It leaves little time for real treasure work. I said before and say again I won't argue with anyone over what I say. Its you loss not mine.
Other who are on the forum are laughing at your childish post
HBBB