what a ring

[Messick81]

went out to the same old fields, notexpecting to get any thing of great importance. hunted for about a hour and a half found a few buttons and all of a suden out pops this ring . i did not think much of it unyil i took it home and bruhed the dirt off,rubbed a little olive oil on it and out pops a date. could not belive what i saw the date is 1715. so i took it to jewler and had him verify what i saw. has any one else found any thing like this,or know any thing about rings like this. i also found this badge or shield and do not know any thing about it either.also stoped by the museum today to check on info thier but no luck. while i was their they ask if i could find out any thing about a ring that was donated to the museum,i told them i have a resorce that has never failed me . any help would be geatly appreciated. thanks before hand you guys are great.

 

[Breezie]

Could you post some larger pics? I'm wondering if this ring is a result of the 1715 Hurricane that wrecked ships from Spain to the Americas? In what state do you live, if you don't mind me asking? As you probably know, the symbol on the top of the ring is not a German swastika.

http://www.ioffer.com/i/1715-Treasure-Fleet-Low-Karat-Gold-Ring-15284060


Really great find, Breezie

 

[Iron Patch]

Interesting find! But better and closer pics needed!

Not sure what it is, but got me interested in the topic and here's a pretty decent page on some 1715 rings.

Rings of the 1715 Spanish Treasure Fleet

http://www.enrada.com/bulletins.htm

 

[Iron Patch]

As you probably know, the symbol on the top of the ring is not a German swastika.

You sure about that?

 

[Breezie]

As you probably know, the symbol on the top of the ring is not a German swastika.

You sure about that?

As the saying goes, I'm only sure about death & taxes , but here ya go:

 

[GpSnoopy]

It's unfortunate that a symbol used for over 3000 years in many cultures, usually as a symbol for goodness and hope, has become so tainted because of one groups use of it.

History of the swastika symbol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

Hope you find out where and when that ring came from.

 

[relichunters]

Looks like a Ceylon symbol. Amazing finds

 

[Lucas]

Well those are examples, and not a ID chart. The "Malta" is very common for northern Indians like the Cree. Don't think they're from Malta?

Very cool find!

 

[Messick81]

The 1715 ring is referring to the copper ring that I found, not the gold ring that belongs to the museum. Sorry for the mix up. I've taken some more pictures, hopefully they are a little bit better.

Thanks.

 

[Messick81]

sorry again for the mix up on the two rings, but the gold ring from the museum has been tested because it is not marked it tested as 16kt i,m not sure who donated it to the museum but i think it,s a very interesting ring. also the items i found all have been found in delaware, thanks again for all the interest and all the help.

 

[Iron Patch]

sorry again for the mix up on the two rings, but the gold ring from the museum has been tested because it is not marked it tested as 16kt i,m not sure who donated it to the museum but i think it,s a very interesting ring. also the items i found all have been found in delaware, thanks again for all the interest and all the help.

Ok, now that makes more sense because I thought it was a pretty odd choice for a file name for a recent find. (and I should read things twice I guess) I've actually busted a person or two posting a fake find because they weren't smart enough to save the file as a different name. (probably why I noticed it)

Did you find anything else old in the area you dug the "1715" ring?

 

[Messick81]

yes one of the coppers that t hunter cleaned up for me and just posted tonight. i also found another one tonight. i think he will look at it also. in the past i have found spanish half reales indian heads flying eagles the gold masonic cross afew years ago at easter civil war bulletts a lots of other items. in the same field, this year may be eaven better the farmer will plow it for the first time in years.

 

[Iron Patch]

yes one of the coppers that t hunter cleaned up for me and just posted tonight. i also found another one tonight. i think he will look at it also. in the past i have found spanish half reales indian heads flying eagles the gold masonic cross afew years ago at easter civil war bulletts a lots of other items. in the same field, this year may be eaven better the farmer will plow it for the first time in years.

Well sounds like anyting is possible then! Is the 1715 engraved, or stamped?

 

[Messick81]

well when i first looked at it i put a little olive oil on it. the date looks like it,s almost raised. to make sure i was,nt loosing it i took it to a jewler and ask him to look at it with out telling him what i saw,so he could tell me what he saw. when he looked at ti he looked up at me and was realy surprised and said thats not what he thinks it is ? is it? than he said what i saw, he could not believe the date was in deed 1715 i was sure what i saw then.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Hello Messick. I would sure like to help but the pics are just too small. Is there anyway you could post larger pics, and post the 1715 mark in a closeup? Use a macro lens setting and/or take the pic thru a loupe. If not, can you tell us what it says on the badge?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Your pics should be more like 650 x 450 and 100KB is no problem. . Maybe your setting is wrong on your camera. Notice the size under the pics. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,321177.0.html

 

[Deepdiger60]

Over in Vietnam that symbol is everywhere its Buddhist its on graves buildings temples etc.
To Buddhists this symbol is "Chu Van," the mark of Enlightenment. It is found on medals, decorating pagodas, and on breasts of Buddha statues. Nice ring

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The museum ring is most likely symbolizing good luck and IMO looking toward the 1715 fleet is the wrong direction for the copper ring. Afterall it was not found on Floridas coast and it is not gold or silver..

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I tried to enlarge the shield but I still cant read it because there is not enough resolution. Can you tell us any part of the inscription? This would be a good item to google.

 

[Messick81]

thanks for all the help