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Went out with a buddy of mine today. It was my first hunt of the 2009 season and it was pretty cold. My first coin find of the day was this King George. I can't make out the date. I can see 17 but can't make out the last 2 numbers. It's seems awfully thin, so I'm thinking it's a counterfeit. Can anyone tell me if this is a KG I, KG II, or KG III, and what is the date range? This was my only meaningful find of the day, but it's always nice seeing the sight of a green disc coming out of the ground!
 

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Iron Patch said:
Golden1 said:
Very nice find :thumbsup:I'm with IP i see 1723 as well :thumbsup:

G1


I might actually change my mind after seeing a bigger picture through my other monitor, very possibly 1724 but I can't quite see enough to say 100%. (The corrosion can really play tricks with a digit) Still a very good old find, one i've only dug off my oldest sites.

I'm really "iffy" on the last digit too. If it is definitely a KG I, it can't be later than 1724, so the third digit is most definitely a 2. When I first looked at the date I thought 1727, but I guess thats not possible. Maybe I can wet the coin again and try to get a better picture. I feel like I can see the date better in a picture than I can with the naked eye.
 
Iron Patch said:
pjroo33 said:
Don in SJ said:
Well, I think that is a good omen of things to come for you, my first coin in January 2008 was a: 1723 King George I Halfpenny!! Here is wishing you a great year for coins and relics!

Here is another site with nice photos for IDing: http://www.ukcoinpics.co.uk/halfp.html#g1

Don

Thanks for the link! I will keep it bookmarked for future use. Well, I hope this find is a good omen for a successful 2009. This is my oldest coin to date. Now I'm wondering if I should seal it with a wax coat or something? I guess it doesn't really matter. It's fine the way it is.


I would put that in a 2x2 and leave alone. If it grows the detail might even get better, if you apply something you risk it being worse. That date is just hanging on!

I have hundreds of large coppers in this condition and year after year they still look the same.

OK... Thanks
I keep some of my better finds in a shadowbox. Would that work as well as using the 2x2 sleeves?
I'd love to see some pics of your coppers (good and bad). I think I remember you posting a large box full of coppers.
 
pjroo33 said:
Iron Patch said:
Golden1 said:
Very nice find :thumbsup:I'm with IP i see 1723 as well :thumbsup:

G1


I might actually change my mind after seeing a bigger picture through my other monitor, very possibly 1724 but I can't quite see enough to say 100%. (The corrosion can really play tricks with a digit) Still a very good old find, one i've only dug off my oldest sites.

I'm really "iffy" on the last digit too. If it is definitely a KG I, it can't be later than 1724, so the third digit is most definitely a 2. When I first looked at the date I thought 1727, but I guess thats not possible. Maybe I can wet the coin again and try to get a better picture. I feel like I can see the date better in a picture than I can with the naked eye.


Anything you do can risk what you do see. Really depends how bad you want that last digit. If you could wet something small and just rub the last number a little it might remove enough corrosion to give a clearer picture.
 
pjroo33 said:
Iron Patch said:
pjroo33 said:
Don in SJ said:
Well, I think that is a good omen of things to come for you, my first coin in January 2008 was a: 1723 King George I Halfpenny!! Here is wishing you a great year for coins and relics!

Here is another site with nice photos for IDing: http://www.ukcoinpics.co.uk/halfp.html#g1

Don

Thanks for the link! I will keep it bookmarked for future use. Well, I hope this find is a good omen for a successful 2009. This is my oldest coin to date. Now I'm wondering if I should seal it with a wax coat or something? I guess it doesn't really matter. It's fine the way it is.


I would put that in a 2x2 and leave alone. If it grows the detail might even get better, if you apply something you risk it being worse. That date is just hanging on!

I have hundreds of large coppers in this condition and year after year they still look the same.

OK... Thanks
I keep some of my better finds in a shadowbox. Would that work as well as using the 2x2 sleeves?
I'd love to see some pics of your coppers (good and bad). I think I remember you posting a large box full of coppers.

I really don't think it matters. I have some in 2x2s, others just in that box, and it really doesn't seem to make a difference.

The majority of mine are crusty but I still do have some decent ones, decent for my ground anyway. (one can't be too fussy here) I'll post some in a bit... what the heck else do I have to do in Jan.! :-X
 
Outstanding find to say the very least, way to go and keep at it.
 
Congrats on starting 2009 off with a copper and it's still only January !!!!

You're off to a great start..

For what it's worth it looks like 1724 to me.....

Great find.

Brian in MA
 
Awesome find, the first coin he finds on the hunt is a 172? copper! Awesome find! I can't think of a reason for all these old coins in that one area? Awesome Awesome Awesome
 
pjroo33 said:
Iron Patch said:
pjroo33 said:
Don in SJ said:
Well, I think that is a good omen of things to come for you, my first coin in January 2008 was a: 1723 King George I Halfpenny!! Here is wishing you a great year for coins and relics!

Here is another site with nice photos for IDing: http://www.ukcoinpics.co.uk/halfp.html#g1

Don

Thanks for the link! I will keep it bookmarked for future use. Well, I hope this find is a good omen for a successful 2009. This is my oldest coin to date. Now I'm wondering if I should seal it with a wax coat or something? I guess it doesn't really matter. It's fine the way it is.


I would put that in a 2x2 and leave alone. If it grows the detail might even get better, if you apply something you risk it being worse. That date is just hanging on!

I have hundreds of large coppers in this condition and year after year they still look the same.


I'd love to see some pics of your coppers (good and bad). I think I remember you posting a large box full of coppers.


Ok, a few of my better ones, and a whole wack of boxed crustys. (The pictures actually lose quite a bit of quality... not that they're beautiful... well to me they are)
 

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IP... Wow! That is an amazing display of finds! You must really do your research before you head out to hunt. You seem to have a nose for copper! Do you have a favorite find in the bunch?
 
pjroo33 said:
IP... Wow! That is an amazing display of finds! You must really do your research before you head out to hunt. You seem to have a nose for copper! Do you have a favorite find in the bunch?


Probably not "a" favorite, but many favorites. One of the CT coppers was found the same day as my best button find in 2001 so it has some meaning. (Because I sold the button) The last two coppers together are definitely favorites... 1722 Rosa Americana Twopence, what a surprise figuring out it was not just a regular large British copper, and the Hibernia beside it was dug many years ago but only a few weeks ago did I find out it is a very rare date for a counterfeit and worth a few bucks. For the silver there's many there I like too. Real good memories digging these.
 
Iron Patch said:
pjroo33 said:
IP... Wow! That is an amazing display of finds! You must really do your research before you head out to hunt. You seem to have a nose for copper! Do you have a favorite find in the bunch?


Probably not "a" favorite, but many favorites. One of the CT coppers was found the same day as my best button find in 2001 so it has some meaning. (Because I sold the button) The last two coppers together are definitely favorites... 1722 Rosa Americana Twopence, what a surprise figuring out it was not just a regular large British copper, and the Hibernia beside it was dug many years ago but only a few weeks ago did I find out it is a very rare date for a counterfeit and worth a few bucks. For the silver there's many there I like too. Real good memories digging these.

Very impressive assortment of finds! You say you have real good memories of digging these coins and I really think thats what it's all about. The best part is getting out and uncovering history. Anything I've dug that has any historical significance, whether it be a coin or some type of relic, I'll always remember where I was and what it felt like when I first realized what I'd found.
Awesome Rosa Americana! That would be a dream find for me. What was the date on your Hibernia counterfeit?
 
pjroo33 said:
Iron Patch said:
pjroo33 said:
IP... Wow! That is an amazing display of finds! You must really do your research before you head out to hunt. You seem to have a nose for copper! Do you have a favorite find in the bunch?


Probably not "a" favorite, but many favorites. One of the CT coppers was found the same day as my best button find in 2001 so it has some meaning. (Because I sold the button) The last two coppers together are definitely favorites... 1722 Rosa Americana Twopence, what a surprise figuring out it was not just a regular large British copper, and the Hibernia beside it was dug many years ago but only a few weeks ago did I find out it is a very rare date for a counterfeit and worth a few bucks. For the silver there's many there I like too. Real good memories digging these.

Very impressive assortment of finds! You say you have real good memories of digging these coins and I really think thats what it's all about. The best part is getting out and uncovering history. Anything I've dug that has any historical significance, whether it be a coin or some type of relic, I'll always remember where I was and what it felt like when I first realized what I'd found.
Awesome Rosa Americana! That would be a dream find for me. What was the date on your Hibernia counterfeit?


Yes, it's not even that many years ago and I'm already reminiscing about the old days.

The site I found the Rosa has been called the Rosa Hill ever since. It's where I found the masonic ring I posted a while back, also where romeo dug the early silver whistle. What an amazing site it was, and still continues to be.

Hibernia is 1783.
 
Pretty cool...I thought I saw 1727...but whatever, at least you can see the 2 pretty definitely I'd say. Congrats, wish I could pull a coin that old from around here.
 
I COULD NOT TAKE IT WOULD HAVE TO CALL 911. CONGRATS. :thumbsup:
 
Nice Job there bud. Looks like you have that new minelab figured out. :thumbsup:
 
Great way to start off 2009! Nice find
 

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