Ww2 helmet

[TopGunner]

Hi, I have had this helmet for some time now and don't really know for sure what it's origin is. If anyone could help me it would be much appreciated.

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[nhbenz]

British despatch riders helmet perhaps? -just based on it being made by BMB (Briggs Motor Bodies) and the type of lining that we see a piece of.

 

[TopGunner]

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[Retired Sarge]

Could very well be a WWII British Brodie helmet or a WWII British Turtle helmet, depends on the shape of the helmet. BMB or Briggs Motor Bodies Ltd of Dagenham is a known British company making WWII British helmets. Below is the Brodie style helmet list I have put together for identifying British/Canadian/American Brodie style helmets.



Known steel suppliers of the WWI British helmets:

FS = T. Firth & Sons Ltd Sept 1916 – 1918
BS = W. Beardmore & Co Ltd Jan. 1916 – 1919
HS = Hadfield Ltd Jan. 1916 – 1919
V = Vickers Ltd 1916 – 1917
MS = Miris Steel Co. Ltd 1916 – 1917
A = Edgar Allen and Co. Ltd 1916 – 1918
F = Thomas Firth and Sons 1916 – 1918
O = Samuel Osborne & Co Ltd. 1916 – 1918
B = Bury's & Co. 1916 – 1918

Known makers of the WWI British helmets:

D = James Dixon & Sons Dec. 1915
HW = Hutton & Sons Dec. 1915
HH = Harrison Bros. & Howson Ltd. Dec. 1915
M = J&J Maxfield & sons Dec. 1915
R = John Round & Sons 1916
V = W&E Viener Dec. 1915
MLS = ?
FKS = Possibly Thomas Firth & Son
M&S = Possibly Maxfield & Sons.

Known makers of the WWII British helmets:

BMB = Briggs Motor Bodies Ltd of Dagenham
F&L = Fisher & Ludlow Ltd of Birmingham
GSW DP & H = General Steel Wares Department of Pensions & Health
HELMETS LTD = Helmets Ltd of Weathhampstead
RO&Co = Rubery Owen Co Ltd of Leeds (Spelled as RO CO or RO&CO)
WD = William Dobson & Son of Birmingham
? = Patent Pulp Manufacturing Co Ltd
JSS = Joseph Sankey & Sons

Known makers of the WWII British liners:

VERO II
TTC 2
FFC II
FFL II
V.M.C II
"N" LTD II
HELMETS Ltd I (Helmets Ltd of Weathhampstead)

Known makers of the WWII Canadian helmets:

CL/C = Canadian Motor Lamp Co
AG/C = Aluminium Goods Co
GSW = General Steel Wares

Known makers of the WWII Canadian liners:

Baskstay Standard Co (Also made chinstraps)
Viceroy Manufacturing Co = C/Arrow or VMC

Known makers of WWI American helmets:

Edward G. Budd Manufacturing Co. 1,150,775 made
Sparks, Withington Co. 473,469 made
Crosby Co. 469,968 made
Bossett Corporation 116,735 made
Columbian Enameling & Stamping Co. 268,850 made
Worchester Pressed Steel Co 193,840 made
Benjamin Electric Co. 33,600 made

Known heat-stamp markings in WWI American helemts:

UC
YJ
ZA
ZB
ZC Columbian Enamaling and Stamping Company?
ZD
ZF
ZH
ZJ



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Turtle Helmet picture:

 

[Retired Sarge]

Now that the other pictures are up, it appears to be a WWII British Turtle helmet.

 

[TopGunner]

Thank you, to me it looks more like the turtle helmet, can you see the markings though they read-
LML or ?ML
11
1944

Any idea? It definitely looks used.

 

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[Retired Sarge]

WWII British Turtle helmet.

The LML is a lightly struck BMB.

BMB = Briggs Motor Bodies (Manufacturer)
11 = ? (I can't remember right now)
1944 = Year the liner was made

 

[TopGunner]

11- regiment? Or mk11 liner? , how much you reckon this thing is worth my friend? Thank you so far you are a legend!

 

[Retired Sarge]

Depending on the whether the helmet is an actual WWII helmet or assembled after WWII. Could be as low as $40.00 + or as high as $100.00 +. You would have to do research on the helmet, to determine what Mk the helmet is (Mk III = WWII, Mk IV = post WWII) The differences will be the placement of the rivets and the liner.

Yours has a WWII liner, making me think it's a Mk III.

The II on the liner might be due to the fact that the Mk III used the same liner as the Mk II Brodie helmet. In fact must troops when they got the new helmet, took the liner from their old one since it was sized and shaped to their heads.

Check the helmet shell itself for any markings/stampings that could help in narrowing down the date maybe.

 

[TopGunner]

Thank you, I have done research just not great at it, apparently it was used on d-day, issued to one British regiment, however I can't be sure. I cannot see any markings on the shell as its been re-painted a few times which also confirms usage. Where else might I look for markings or is cleaning it a good idea?