Yeah thats right I found a colonial coin!!!

[creeper71]

Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Finally got hold of the Farmer to a house I been eyeing up for 5months or so... I talked to him about 5 mins an then told him what I was actually there for... without a thought he said sure go ahead metal detect but lot of people already hit it... So I thought probably a waste of time,but had the words that are always repeated on Tnet.. No place is ever hunted out... with those wise words echoing in my head I headed to the oldest house on the lot.. about 10mins into the hunt I get a singal that is bouncing.. I hear iron an some type of money tone.. so I start to dig an dang it big freakin root.. hacked most of the root out of the way an kept digging must have dug atleast 7-8 inches down then I see a disc on the pile of dirt... cake with dirt..so I take it over to the pond an wipe as much dirt off as possible just to see what is was... couldn't tell right then..stuck it in my pocket an went on detecting.. about 1/2hr later I needed a cigarette so I went to the car an pulled the coin out an looked again... I saw what i call the wheelchair Lady on the on side of the coin..right then I knew I had a good coin..I was so excited!!! so here is the pic of the only thing found today... DonSJ if you could tell me how to clean this I would be forever grateful!! also I have no clue what Variety this coin is an if it's real or counterfeited.... any help would be appreciated ...

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Well congrats, it looks like a KGI 1723 just my eyes seeing the 23 But I am fairly certain it is a King George I Halfpenny, regardless of not being able to tell the size.

I personally would use peroxide, however, the coin is a bit funky with that corrosion on it, so you might want to just try wet q-tips first, especially around the date area where the definite 17 is showing.

Diameter of my 1723's are approx 27.1mm, a tad over an inch 1.06"

Don

Agreed , A 'dump' issue halfpenny. I thought I saw 17?7, so 1717 maybe??

A dump is the small centre coin punched from a larger coin in british colonies when coinage was short.These dumps are the size of a 3pence and quite thick. Most where made from spanish 8 Date from 1757-1806 struck around 1813. the large holed coin is refered to a New South Wales Holey Dollar and the small dump.Also refered to Proclaimation Money. Heres a example of an early Australian version but other colonies had such coinage but none where English or North American.Mostly made of gold and silver never copper.Value was 15 pence.

Here acouple of examples of DUMPS These are one of the rarest coins in world and worth mega bucksLast pic is the larger holey dollar.
Seems you have found a more common early english copper Nice find and great age. congrats

tinpan

See picture in 'Coins Of England' by SPINK the UK leading coin company (2005 addition).

You have though just explained better than me why they were 'Dump'. They are made in dies that were smaller than the coins making a larger flan.

I Just knew seeing someone had posted before me it had to be you!!!

 

[tinpan]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Well congrats, it looks like a KGI 1723 just my eyes seeing the 23 But I am fairly certain it is a King George I Halfpenny, regardless of not being able to tell the size.

I personally would use peroxide, however, the coin is a bit funky with that corrosion on it, so you might want to just try wet q-tips first, especially around the date area where the definite 17 is showing.

Diameter of my 1723's are approx 27.1mm, a tad over an inch 1.06"

Don

Agreed , A 'dump' issue halfpenny. I thought I saw 17?7, so 1717 maybe??

A dump is the small centre coin punched from a larger coin in british colonies when coinage was short.These dumps are the size of a 3pence and quite thick. Most where made from spanish 8 Date from 1757-1806 struck around 1813. the large holed coin is refered to a New South Wales Holey Dollar and the small dump.Also refered to Proclaimation Money. Heres a example of an early Australian version but other colonies had such coinage but none where English or North American.Mostly made of gold and silver never copper.Value was 15 pence.

Here acouple of examples of DUMPS These are one of the rarest coins in world and worth mega bucksLast pic is the larger holey dollar.
Seems you have found a more common early english copper Nice find and great age. congrats

tinpan

The Brits. called it the dump because of it's smaller and thicker size compared to previous issues.

On the topic however, I'm a dump finder Punched from an 8 reale. They were created to keep the silver in circulation here, the ring kept the full value and the plug/dump was equal to 1 Shilling. They are fairly rare but don't carry a huge value, good for at least a couple detectors though.

Thats nice find but in my opinion a punched out 8 reale is not a total restruck coin is now just a PLUG.Yet a Dump which is what i have shown you is a total change of detail and is a proper legal tender and not a bit of silver.Silver plug doesn,t make proclaimation coinage just a trade weight = to coinage.

crusader i can read Halfpenny "Dump" is still a half penny as the one i have shown is called a DUMP

The name comes from the fact the centre was dumped out when struck. 40,000 spanish reales were brought from the Dutch East India Company and made in the colony of New south wales. only a few have every been found and only 300 of the holey New South Wales. Dumps of this nature cost between 4-10 thousand dollars and the holey dollar is a 200,000 dollar coin.Poor condition one which means unreadable are still worth 2000 dollars. Worth a hell of a lot more than a couple of detectors or Roman silver.Thats only 2 of about 30 super rare coins found down -under.

tinpan one Australian NT member has good chance of finding one of these DUMPS he lives not to far from where they have been found.i live too far awayabout 1000 miles too far lol

tinpan

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Well congrats, it looks like a KGI 1723 just my eyes seeing the 23 But I am fairly certain it is a King George I Halfpenny, regardless of not being able to tell the size.

I personally would use peroxide, however, the coin is a bit funky with that corrosion on it, so you might want to just try wet q-tips first, especially around the date area where the definite 17 is showing.

Diameter of my 1723's are approx 27.1mm, a tad over an inch 1.06"

Don

Agreed , A 'dump' issue halfpenny. I thought I saw 17?7, so 1717 maybe??

A dump is the small centre coin punched from a larger coin in british colonies when coinage was short.These dumps are the size of a 3pence and quite thick. Most where made from spanish 8 Date from 1757-1806 struck around 1813. the large holed coin is refered to a New South Wales Holey Dollar and the small dump.Also refered to Proclaimation Money. Heres a example of an early Australian version but other colonies had such coinage but none where English or North American.Mostly made of gold and silver never copper.Value was 15 pence.

Here acouple of examples of DUMPS These are one of the rarest coins in world and worth mega bucksLast pic is the larger holey dollar.
Seems you have found a more common early english copper Nice find and great age. congrats

tinpan

The Brits. called it the dump because of it's smaller and thicker size compared to previous issues.

On the topic however, I'm a dump finder Punched from an 8 reale. They were created to keep the silver in circulation here, the ring kept the full value and the plug/dump was equal to 1 Shilling. They are fairly rare but don't carry a huge value, good for at least a couple detectors though.

Thats nice find but in my opinion a punched out 8 reale is not a total restruck coin is now just a PLUG.Yet a Dump which is what i have shown you is a total change of detail and is a proper legal tender and not a bit of silver.Silver plug doesn,t make proclaimation coinage just a trade weight = to coinage.

crusader i can read Halfpenny "Dump" is still a half penny as the one i have shown is called a DUMP

The name comes from the fact the centre was dumped out when struck. 40,000 spanish reales were brought from the Dutch East India Company and made in the colony of New south wales. only a few have every been found and only 300 of the holey New South Wales. Dumps of this nature cost between 4-10 thousand dollars and the holey dollar is a 200,000 dollar coin.Poor condition one which means unreadable are still worth 2000 dollars. Worth a hell of a lot more than a couple of detectors or Roman silver.Thats only 2 of about 30 super rare coins found down -under.

tinpan one Australian NT member has good chance of finding one of these DUMPS he lives not to far from where they have been found.i live too far awayabout 1000 miles too far lol

tinpan

It's countermarked and there is lots of reference to it being called both a plug and dump.

Our national currency museum calls it a Holey Dollar Dump.

 

[tinpan]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Well congrats, it looks like a KGI 1723 just my eyes seeing the 23 But I am fairly certain it is a King George I Halfpenny, regardless of not being able to tell the size.

I personally would use peroxide, however, the coin is a bit funky with that corrosion on it, so you might want to just try wet q-tips first, especially around the date area where the definite 17 is showing.

Diameter of my 1723's are approx 27.1mm, a tad over an inch 1.06"

Don

Agreed , A 'dump' issue halfpenny. I thought I saw 17?7, so 1717 maybe??

A dump is the small centre coin punched from a larger coin in british colonies when coinage was short.These dumps are the size of a 3pence and quite thick. Most where made from spanish 8 Date from 1757-1806 struck around 1813. the large holed coin is refered to a New South Wales Holey Dollar and the small dump.Also refered to Proclaimation Money. Heres a example of an early Australian version but other colonies had such coinage but none where English or North American.Mostly made of gold and silver never copper.Value was 15 pence.

Here acouple of examples of DUMPS These are one of the rarest coins in world and worth mega bucksLast pic is the larger holey dollar.
Seems you have found a more common early english copper Nice find and great age. congrats

tinpan

The Brits. called it the dump because of it's smaller and thicker size compared to previous issues.

On the topic however, I'm a dump finder Punched from an 8 reale. They were created to keep the silver in circulation here, the ring kept the full value and the plug/dump was equal to 1 Shilling. They are fairly rare but don't carry a huge value, good for at least a couple detectors though.

Thats nice find but in my opinion a punched out 8 reale is not a total restruck coin is now just a PLUG.Yet a Dump which is what i have shown you is a total change of detail and is a proper legal tender and not a bit of silver.Silver plug doesn,t make proclaimation coinage just a trade weight = to coinage.

crusader i can read Halfpenny "Dump" is still a half penny as the one i have shown is called a DUMP

The name comes from the fact the centre was dumped out when struck. 40,000 spanish reales were brought from the Dutch East India Company and made in the colony of New south wales. only a few have every been found and only 300 of the holey New South Wales. Dumps of this nature cost between 4-10 thousand dollars and the holey dollar is a 200,000 dollar coin.Poor condition one which means unreadable are still worth 2000 dollars. Worth a hell of a lot more than a couple of detectors or Roman silver.Thats only 2 of about 30 super rare coins found down -under.

tinpan one Australian NT member has good chance of finding one of these DUMPS he lives not to far from where they have been found.i live too far awayabout 1000 miles too far lol

tinpan

It's countermarked and there is lots of reference to it being called both a plug and dump.

Our national currency museum calls it a Holey Dollar Dump.

Question Is there document or proclaimation notice from the time of issue.If there is your dump or plug should be worth a lot more than you think.Is the dump or plug before or after the rev war?

tinpan

 

[crazyjarhead]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Nice find Creeper

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Well congrats, it looks like a KGI 1723 just my eyes seeing the 23 But I am fairly certain it is a King George I Halfpenny, regardless of not being able to tell the size.

I personally would use peroxide, however, the coin is a bit funky with that corrosion on it, so you might want to just try wet q-tips first, especially around the date area where the definite 17 is showing.

Diameter of my 1723's are approx 27.1mm, a tad over an inch 1.06"

Don

Agreed , A 'dump' issue halfpenny. I thought I saw 17?7, so 1717 maybe??

A dump is the small centre coin punched from a larger coin in british colonies when coinage was short.These dumps are the size of a 3pence and quite thick. Most where made from spanish 8 Date from 1757-1806 struck around 1813. the large holed coin is refered to a New South Wales Holey Dollar and the small dump.Also refered to Proclaimation Money. Heres a example of an early Australian version but other colonies had such coinage but none where English or North American.Mostly made of gold and silver never copper.Value was 15 pence.

Here acouple of examples of DUMPS These are one of the rarest coins in world and worth mega bucksLast pic is the larger holey dollar.
Seems you have found a more common early english copper Nice find and great age. congrats

tinpan

The Brits. called it the dump because of it's smaller and thicker size compared to previous issues.

On the topic however, I'm a dump finder Punched from an 8 reale. They were created to keep the silver in circulation here, the ring kept the full value and the plug/dump was equal to 1 Shilling. They are fairly rare but don't carry a huge value, good for at least a couple detectors though.

Thats nice find but in my opinion a punched out 8 reale is not a total restruck coin is now just a PLUG.Yet a Dump which is what i have shown you is a total change of detail and is a proper legal tender and not a bit of silver.Silver plug doesn,t make proclaimation coinage just a trade weight = to coinage.

crusader i can read Halfpenny "Dump" is still a half penny as the one i have shown is called a DUMP

The name comes from the fact the centre was dumped out when struck. 40,000 spanish reales were brought from the Dutch East India Company and made in the colony of New south wales. only a few have every been found and only 300 of the holey New South Wales. Dumps of this nature cost between 4-10 thousand dollars and the holey dollar is a 200,000 dollar coin.Poor condition one which means unreadable are still worth 2000 dollars. Worth a hell of a lot more than a couple of detectors or Roman silver.Thats only 2 of about 30 super rare coins found down -under.

tinpan one Australian NT member has good chance of finding one of these DUMPS he lives not to far from where they have been found.i live too far awayabout 1000 miles too far lol

tinpan

It's countermarked and there is lots of reference to it being called both a plug and dump.

Our national currency museum calls it a Holey Dollar Dump.

Question Is there document or proclaimation notice from the time of issue.If there is your dump or plug should be worth a lot more than you think.Is the dump or plug before or after the rev war?

tinpan

I believe they list them as 1813, it's Canadian by the way. There's probably 10-12 known and the value would be anywhere from $1,500-$4,500 depending on how much someone wants one. They are unique to my Province.

 

[creeper71]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Anyone have a approx Value for my coin? I'm fairly sure it's 1723

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Anyone have a approx Value for my coin? I'm fairly sure it's 1723

That condition the only real value is in finding it.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Anyone have a approx Value for my coin? I'm fairly sure it's 1723

That condition the only real value is in finding it.

True, unless you meet a non coin collector

 

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

You got a lot of feedback on your find- very cool!

 

[DD-777]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Creeper! First "korlonial" koin and you've hit fifty posts - sweet!

 

[creeper71]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

yeah that's pretty awesome HUH ..DD?

 

[curbdiggercarl57]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Great find, love those coppers!

 

[DD-777]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

yeah that's pretty awesome HUH ..DD?

Heck yeah - your post even started a "heated discussion"...

 

[creeper71]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

that's some good stuff right there DD