Yeah thats right I found a colonial coin!!!

[creeper71]

Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Finally got hold of the Farmer to a house I been eyeing up for 5months or so... I talked to him about 5 mins an then told him what I was actually there for... without a thought he said sure go ahead metal detect but lot of people already hit it... So I thought probably a waste of time,but had the words that are always repeated on Tnet.. No place is ever hunted out... with those wise words echoing in my head I headed to the oldest house on the lot.. about 10mins into the hunt I get a singal that is bouncing.. I hear iron an some type of money tone.. so I start to dig an dang it big freakin root.. hacked most of the root out of the way an kept digging must have dug atleast 7-8 inches down then I see a disc on the pile of dirt... cake with dirt..so I take it over to the pond an wipe as much dirt off as possible just to see what is was... couldn't tell right then..stuck it in my pocket an went on detecting.. about 1/2hr later I needed a cigarette so I went to the car an pulled the coin out an looked again... I saw what i call the wheelchair Lady on the on side of the coin..right then I knew I had a good coin..I was so excited!!! so here is the pic of the only thing found today... DonSJ if you could tell me how to clean this I would be forever grateful!! also I have no clue what Variety this coin is an if it's real or counterfeited.... any help would be appreciated ...

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

When I look at a posted coin I want to seriously try and ID, I copy it and then look at it in Faststone Image program, and usually after some minor adjustments I then go to the negative mode and that sometimes shows more of the lettering and date than the normal view, in your coin's situation, I thought I saw the 3 for sure, I compared it with two 1723's I have along with my 1717 and it is closer to looking like the 1723, and also the first N in BRITANNIA is closer to the head on my 1723's, like yours is and on my 1717, it is further from the head.
I would not consider it a rare find in USA.

Don

I don't see many posted, but your the expert & have the data. I use intuition most of the time, thats why I'm off from time to time. Still I have only had a hand full over 20 plus year.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

what does Dump issue mean CRUSADER ? Is this a rare coin??

Not rare, just the first issue.

Hello Cru'

I thought that one was too tough for you.

Nothing to tough for my guessing

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

I think a George I is a pretty good find. My only older coppers are a couple Williams that are pretty much blank. But some of my Spanish and French beat Georgie.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

When I look at a posted coin I want to seriously try and ID, I copy it and then look at it in Faststone Image program, and usually after some minor adjustments I then go to the negative mode and that sometimes shows more of the lettering and date than the normal view, in your coin's situation, I thought I saw the 3 for sure, I compared it with two 1723's I have along with my 1717 and it is closer to looking like the 1723, and also the first N in BRITANNIA is closer to the head on my 1723's, like yours is and on my 1717, it is further from the head.
I would not consider it a rare find in USA.

Don

I don't see many posted, but your the expert & have the data. I use intuition most of the time, thats why I'm off from time to time. Still I have only had a hand full over 20 plus year.

Are we just talking George I in general or first issues. I have a few Georgies but not sure if they're dump. I think one might have been, but too much work to go digging for it.

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

When I look at a posted coin I want to seriously try and ID, I copy it and then look at it in Faststone Image program, and usually after some minor adjustments I then go to the negative mode and that sometimes shows more of the lettering and date than the normal view, in your coin's situation, I thought I saw the 3 for sure, I compared it with two 1723's I have along with my 1717 and it is closer to looking like the 1723, and also the first N in BRITANNIA is closer to the head on my 1723's, like yours is and on my 1717, it is further from the head.
I would not consider it a rare find in USA.

Don

I don't see many posted, but your the expert & have the data. I use intuition most of the time, thats why I'm off from time to time. Still I have only had a hand full over 20 plus year.

Between my son and I, we have 11, possibly 12, not sure if he has 5 or 6, but I have 6 and one KGI farthing. My friend in the county north of me has found 30 KGI Halfpence and 5 KGI Farthings.

Don

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

When I look at a posted coin I want to seriously try and ID, I copy it and then look at it in Faststone Image program, and usually after some minor adjustments I then go to the negative mode and that sometimes shows more of the lettering and date than the normal view, in your coin's situation, I thought I saw the 3 for sure, I compared it with two 1723's I have along with my 1717 and it is closer to looking like the 1723, and also the first N in BRITANNIA is closer to the head on my 1723's, like yours is and on my 1717, it is further from the head.
I would not consider it a rare find in USA.

Don

I don't see many posted, but your the expert & have the data. I use intuition most of the time, thats why I'm off from time to time. Still I have only had a hand full over 20 plus year.

Between my son and I, we have 11, possibly 12, not sure if he has 5 or 6, but I have 6 and one KGI farthing. My friend in the county north of me has found 30 KGI Halfpence and 5 KGI Farthings.

Don

I suspect if we had condition here like you do my numbers would be quite a bit higher. The only two I can recall finding were actually dropped by the French.

 

[Dman]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Super nice coin. Way to go.
dman

 

[SoreKneesDayton]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

See all that late night chatting on Tnet helped you find a gooooood coin...lol

Nice going Rob

SKD

 

[silverfreak]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Very nice dig there Creeper

 

[DD-777]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about bud!!! Sure beats looking for those low serial #s...

 

[creeper71]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about bud!!! Sure beats looking for those low serial #s...

True That!! your comment made me laugh... DD have you found anything good lately?

 

[creeper71]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

When I look at a posted coin I want to seriously try and ID, I copy it and then look at it in Faststone Image program, and usually after some minor adjustments I then go to the negative mode and that sometimes shows more of the lettering and date than the normal view, in your coin's situation, I thought I saw the 3 for sure, I compared it with two 1723's I have along with my 1717 and it is closer to looking like the 1723, and also the first N in BRITANNIA is closer to the head on my 1723's, like yours is and on my 1717, it is further from the head.
I would not consider it a rare find in USA.

Don

Don would it be possible for you to post the negative image of my coin? I'm curious to how much detail is actually on my coin an how it looks in negative mode... Thanks...

 

[creeper71]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

See all that late night chatting on Tnet helped you find a gooooood coin...lol

Nice going Rob

SKD

thanks for your Post Terry... Funny thing is after I got done talking to the farmer an said I was headed to detect he says good luck.. I said I'm going to need it I haven't found crap for a while.. he then said today's the day..I laughed an said I hope!!

 

[creeper71]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Very nice dig there Creeper

thanks Silverfreak now all I need to do is find a cache of old coins in a sealed jar .... lol

 

[Cr4zyH0rs3]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

A Big congrats to you Creeper on your latest find, I'm sure you deserved it.

 

[creeper71]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

A Big congrats to you Creeper on your latest find, I'm sure you deserved it.

Thanks Crazyhors3 How is your luck going with detecting?? I hope really well...

 

[tinpan]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Well congrats, it looks like a KGI 1723 just my eyes seeing the 23 But I am fairly certain it is a King George I Halfpenny, regardless of not being able to tell the size.

I personally would use peroxide, however, the coin is a bit funky with that corrosion on it, so you might want to just try wet q-tips first, especially around the date area where the definite 17 is showing.

Diameter of my 1723's are approx 27.1mm, a tad over an inch 1.06"

Don

Agreed , A 'dump' issue halfpenny. I thought I saw 17?7, so 1717 maybe??

A dump is the small centre coin punched from a larger coin in british colonies when coinage was short.These dumps are the size of a 3pence and quite thick. Most where made from spanish 8 Date from 1757-1806 struck around 1813. the large holed coin is refered to a New South Wales Holey Dollar and the small dump.Also refered to Proclaimation Money. Heres a example of an early Australian version but other colonies had such coinage but none where English or North American.Mostly made of gold and silver never copper.Value was 15 pence.

Here acouple of examples of DUMPS These are one of the rarest coins in world and worth mega bucksLast pic is the larger holey dollar.
Seems you have found a more common early english copper Nice find and great age. congrats

tinpan

 

[Bavaria Mike]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Congrats on the colonial copper! HH, Mike

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Well congrats, it looks like a KGI 1723 just my eyes seeing the 23 But I am fairly certain it is a King George I Halfpenny, regardless of not being able to tell the size.

I personally would use peroxide, however, the coin is a bit funky with that corrosion on it, so you might want to just try wet q-tips first, especially around the date area where the definite 17 is showing.

Diameter of my 1723's are approx 27.1mm, a tad over an inch 1.06"

Don

Agreed , A 'dump' issue halfpenny. I thought I saw 17?7, so 1717 maybe??

A dump is the small centre coin punched from a larger coin in british colonies when coinage was short.These dumps are the size of a 3pence and quite thick. Most where made from spanish 8 Date from 1757-1806 struck around 1813. the large holed coin is refered to a New South Wales Holey Dollar and the small dump.Also refered to Proclaimation Money. Heres a example of an early Australian version but other colonies had such coinage but none where English or North American.Mostly made of gold and silver never copper.Value was 15 pence.

Here acouple of examples of DUMPS These are one of the rarest coins in world and worth mega bucksLast pic is the larger holey dollar.
Seems you have found a more common early english copper Nice find and great age. congrats

tinpan

See picture in 'Coins Of England' by SPINK the UK leading coin company (2005 addition).

You have though just explained better than me why they were 'Dump'. They are made in dies that were smaller than the coins making a larger flan.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Yeah that's right I found a colonial coin!!!

Well congrats, it looks like a KGI 1723 just my eyes seeing the 23 But I am fairly certain it is a King George I Halfpenny, regardless of not being able to tell the size.

I personally would use peroxide, however, the coin is a bit funky with that corrosion on it, so you might want to just try wet q-tips first, especially around the date area where the definite 17 is showing.

Diameter of my 1723's are approx 27.1mm, a tad over an inch 1.06"

Don

Agreed , A 'dump' issue halfpenny. I thought I saw 17?7, so 1717 maybe??

A dump is the small centre coin punched from a larger coin in british colonies when coinage was short.These dumps are the size of a 3pence and quite thick. Most where made from spanish 8 Date from 1757-1806 struck around 1813. the large holed coin is refered to a New South Wales Holey Dollar and the small dump.Also refered to Proclaimation Money. Heres a example of an early Australian version but other colonies had such coinage but none where English or North American.Mostly made of gold and silver never copper.Value was 15 pence.

Here acouple of examples of DUMPS These are one of the rarest coins in world and worth mega bucksLast pic is the larger holey dollar.
Seems you have found a more common early english copper Nice find and great age. congrats

tinpan

The Brits. called it the dump because of it's smaller and thicker size compared to previous issues.

On the topic however, I'm a dump finder Punched from an 8 reale. They were created to keep the silver in circulation here, the ring kept the full value and the plug/dump was equal to 1 Shilling. They are fairly rare but don't carry a huge value, good for at least a couple detectors though.