Yes archaeologist use this equipment but not Prop wash deflectors "really"

Black Duck

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Mary Glowacki at the State got madd when I asked her in front of the secretary of State why was it ok to use this equipment instead of a 2 inch tube like Light house use's and never finds anything "true story"

Her answer was it was necessary do to a dredging operation that would have destroyed the wreck site, ( wrong answer)
 

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You should have asked her why they didn't use C4 charges as the damage to shipwrecks would be fairly similar but C4 is quicker!::):icon_pale:
 

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Black Duck, in addition to the grab claw, the Institute of Nautical Archaeology used blowers when they excavated La Salle's vessel in Matagorda Bay back in 1996.
 

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Black Duck, in addition to the grab claw, the Institute of Nautical Archaeology used blowers when they excavated La Salle's vessel in Matagorda Bay back in 1996.


Thanks i did not know that,I guess its ok when its for the good of there pay check,
 

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I just read about it and it said they put a coffer damm around it as it was in a bay,so at what point did they use blowers ?

I really do not read or research projects I am not involved in unless it help with what GME is doing,
 

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They used blowers around the perimeter before sinking the cofferdam.
 

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No state OR government should not even be in the archaeology "business" let alone the salvage and recovery business.

Their job should remain solely on documentation and overseeing proper care and cataloging of such endeavors / projects.

That's it.

Engaging in these activities AT taxpayers expense IS a "conflict of interest."

Furthermore...

I would also call it "monopolizing"... which is exactly what the government rules as "unconstitutional" and "unfair" trade practices... and goes after business giants for.

A clear and cut case IMO of...

"what's good for the goose IS NOT good for the gander".
 

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No state OR government should not even be in the archaeology "business" let alone the salvage and recovery business.

Their job should remain solely on documentation and overseeing proper care and cataloging of such endeavors / projects.

That's it.

Engaging in these activities AT taxpayers expense IS a "conflict of interest."

Furthermore...

I would also call it "monopolizing"... which is exactly what the government rules as "unconstitutional" and "unfair" trade practices... and goes after business giants for.

A clear and cut case IMO of...

"what's good for the goose IS NOT good for the gander".

Who saves those who would save others from themselves ,from their own selves?
 

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Come again... ehhh... say that 3 times real fast :P

Heaven forbid you or I take a barnacle home.
Better that others recover them and put them put them somewhere " safe"...for our sake. But who looks out for the sake of those who would save us from ourselves? Or their recoveries?
 

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Heaven forbid you or I take a barnacle home.
Better that others recover them and put them put them somewhere " safe"...for our sake. But who looks out for the sake of those who would save us from ourselves? Or their recoveries?

Many finds from shipwrecks that are to be "safe kept" by entities throughout salvage history...

Are in fact kept from public eyes... restricted from public access... OR... in cases... "missing"... unable to be located / found.

With little to no accountability... and mostly lost in the "shuffle"...

And IF a record exist of items path ... Records lead to "dead ends" or to no an "exchange" or no press quiet sale.

As far as "misplaced" items in archival storages... little to no "solves" as to an items whereabouts are pursued due to lack

No one wants to be held accountable for misplacing or loosing something of value.

Which brings to point "there will always those who can open the gate for the gate keeper".

Hence why I admired Mel Fisher...

At least Mel Fisher put it all out there for all to see.,, and allowed people who really wanted to "own" a piece of it.

And made a museum of his own to tell the story and display the finds that captured our imaginations.
 

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Mr whitey keevan was pretty good with one of those claws. Ive seen pictures of some fantastic loads of coins pulled off el cazador. Theres one with whitey peering in through the clam shell at load of coins that ways thousands of pounds. Hes an amazing guy whos done it all including useing a clam shell to grab thousands and thousands of pounds of coins !! Not just thousands of coins but thousands of POUNDS of coins. Guys in his 80s but looks acts and works like hes 50 !!
 

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