You can be tracked from the sky using the Ctx 3030

[tumbleinn2]

Minelab can track your every move with the ctx 3030 they can tell we're u been even what the unit hitting on kinda scary

 

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[mical66]

kind of weird thing for them to do ya think ? any articles or links to confirm this ?

 

[GRiley]

So if you own that detector and it's stolen they can find it for you? Sorta a LoJack for detectors?......G

 

[Wyomingmedic]

I have no idea where this MYTH started, nor why it continues.

You CANNOT ever, no way, no how track somebody with a GPS receiver (like the 3030 has). It is a completely passive device that does not phone home, EVER.

People have cell phones that can be tracked by emergency services. That is because the cell phone is constantly updating it's coordinates with the cell company. There is a distance based digital handshake that has to take place for cell phones to work (Ever wonder why you can have full signal bars yet not be able to make a call?).

Little GPS units on your dash or any other GPS receiver cannot be tracked just because it is a GPS. I do this for a living and it never ceases to amaze me the fear factor some people have.

And I'm sure somebody will tell me that I'm wrong and "If only you had a little faith", so here is my usual challenge. Show me HOW a GPS receiver can be tracked. Not a doom and gloom website that says they CAN be tracked, but an actual description of how it's done.

Despite issuing this challenge dozens of times, I have yet to learn the tracking secrets.

WM

 

[2screwed]

Wyomingmedic is right. GPS receivers DO NOT send signals they only receive them. Here is an explanation of how they work:

How does GPS work?| Explore | physics.org

 

[tumbleinn2]

Applied Digital solutions is the founder of GPS tracking devices

 

[GRiley]

Gee Wyomingmedic,
You remind me of first person who told me there was no tooth fairy, even after I showed him the dime. Which were all silver then. Another bubble popped.

 

[2screwed]

Gee Wyomingmedic,
You remind me of first person who told me there was no tooth fairy, even after I showed him the dime. Which were all silver then. Another bubble popped.

What?!!!!!... There's no tooth fairy? Next thing you will be saying is there's no Santa Claus.

 

[Jason in Enid]

Minelab can track your every move with the ctx 3030 they can tell we're u been even what the unit hitting on kinda scary

Please stop with this conspiracy theory crap. It's just stupid.

 

[gleaner1]

Train wreck pic? Too early? Too early?

 

[TreasurDiggrNY]

Sometimes a tin foil hat just isn't enough.

 

[Wyomingmedic]

Applied Digital solutions is the founder of GPS tracking devices

Yes. But do you know how?

With RFID tags attached to a GPS. Also with TRANSMITTING Epirb equipment, tied to a GPS.

They specifically create a device which is capable/made to transmit it's location to a central point.

Standard GPS units (again, like on the 3030) have no provision to phone home. They aren't hooked to a cellular system, they have no RFID capability, they transmit NO signal that can be received by any monitoring agency. They are strictly passive and can ONLY receive a satellite signal while doing time processing.

Can you track a GPS equipped transmitter? Yes, of course. A GPS receives the units location, feeds the data via a TNC to a transmitting device (like a cell phone), then the transmitter relays the coordinates to a pre-determined destination.

Can you track a GPS receiver? No. How would you? The GPS receives the satellite signal, makes a location determination, then . . . . . . . . . . With no transmitter to feed the info to, how can the data move away from the GPS receiver?

Same way that XM radio cannot track your location. It is a RECEIVER that happens to be listening to a certain radio frequency. It never transmits back into space. All it does is sit there and listen like an AM/FM radio in your car. Yet nobody ever tells me that they can be tracked with their AM/FM radio. . . . .

Odd.

WM

 

[Petrie502]

I've heard this several times and always wondered how they would track a receiver!!

 

[Iron Patch]

Yeah sure is scary. You know it's only a matter of time.

 

[WVPapaw]

I have no idea where this MYTH started, nor why it continues.

You CANNOT ever, no way, no how track somebody with a GPS receiver (like the 3030 has). It is a completely passive device that does not phone home, EVER.

People have cell phones that can be tracked by emergency services. That is because the cell phone is constantly updating it's coordinates with the cell company. There is a distance based digital handshake that has to take place for cell phones to work (Ever wonder why you can have full signal bars yet not be able to make a call?).

Little GPS units on your dash or any other GPS receiver cannot be tracked just because it is a GPS. I do this for a living and it never ceases to amaze me the fear factor some people have.

And I'm sure somebody will tell me that I'm wrong and "If only you had a little faith", so here is my usual challenge. Show me HOW a GPS receiver can be tracked. Not a doom and gloom website that says they CAN be tracked, but an actual description of how it's done.

Despite issuing this challenge dozens of times, I have yet to learn the tracking secrets.

WM

I believe that newer automobiles can be tracked.

 

[Jason in Enid]

I believe that newer automobiles can be tracked.

That's because some of them have satellite commo built into them. That's why an operator can locate a stolen car, disable the engine, lock doors until the cops show up.

But again, that is NOT a simple GPS receiver like handheld, car, and CTX has built in.

 

[Wyomingmedic]

I believe that newer automobiles can be tracked.

Many can, but it is due to a GPS receiver hooked to a transmitter like OnStar by GM.

Just like any other GPS tracking device, it takes the raw GPS data and transmits it via the cell network to a central point.

Most people think OnStar is a satellite based system, but it isn't. If you don't have cell coverage, you don't have OnStar service. Sneaky advertisers LOL.

But you can (and many do) buy a GM vehicle without the OnStar equipment on board. Sure, you can not pay for the service, but by having the equipment inside, whoever has access to the data can track you. There are a number of articles online for how to remove the OnStar transmitting equipment so that you cannot be tracked.

The other auto tracking technology that is getting exploited is the RFID tags. Many places have a tollway or pay-to-park system where you stick a plastic box inside your windshield. This box contains a RFID tag that tells a person how many times that box has traveled past a certain point. Simply putting RFID exciters everywhere will allow somebody to be tracked.

Many of us won't embrace that technology either. But it's easy since we don't have any toll roads or paid parking places.

WM

 

[2screwed]

The other auto tracking technology that is getting exploited is the RFID tags. Many places have a tollway or pay-to-park system where you stick a plastic box inside your windshield. This box contains a RFID tag that tells a person how many times that box has traveled past a certain point. Simply putting RFID exciters everywhere will allow somebody to be tracked.WM

This is the technology that bothers me. I don't have one but they use these here in Western Washington to pay tolls for bridges and for paying extra for single occupant vehicles to be allowed to drive in some HOV lanes at certain times of day. I can see a time coming when these are used to track vehicles and for speeding tickets. Just put a reader in 2 locations a known distance apart and calculate the speed between the two points. Send your ticket in the mail or just take it out of the account you have linked to the RFID tag. I'm sure the someone with the government or the RFID manufactures have already thought of it.

 

[CoinFetcher]

I have programmed GPS Recording devices from the Microchip level up. My device kept track of you for up to 1 hour. It would not "phone home" as that would require a Cell phone, and adequate coverage, battery, ect.

The GPS signal is a RADIO signal. A signal that every antenna in the world can detect. Even a coil of wire in your pocket will pick up this signal. Decoding this signal is another question all together.

Think of it a native american smoke signal. Everyone in the area can see the smoke signal. But, you don't know where the OTHER viewers are, nor does the person generating the signal. They simply gererate the smoke signal.

Does the morning radio show host know the location of all the listeners? NOPE.

Similarly - a GPS decoding devise only knows where it has been. Usually kept in a series of coordinates - captured at regular intervals. Store in a memory chip on the device.

The most the mineladb can do, is store a certain amount of GPS history, and then upload to your computer, per the installation software.

It would be against mine-labs own Electronic Policy agreement to then download this information for their purposes.

 

[WVPapaw]

Many can, but it is due to a GPS receiver hooked to a transmitter like OnStar by GM.

Just like any other GPS tracking device, it takes the raw GPS data and transmits it via the cell network to a central point.

Most people think OnStar is a satellite based system, but it isn't. If you don't have cell coverage, you don't have OnStar service. Sneaky advertisers LOL.

But you can (and many do) buy a GM vehicle without the OnStar equipment on board. Sure, you can not pay for the service, but by having the equipment inside, whoever has access to the data can track you. There are a number of articles online for how to remove the OnStar transmitting equipment so that you cannot be tracked.

The other auto tracking technology that is getting exploited is the RFID tags. Many places have a tollway or pay-to-park system where you stick a plastic box inside your windshield. This box contains a RFID tag that tells a person how many times that box has traveled past a certain point. Simply putting RFID exciters everywhere will allow somebody to be tracked.

Many of us won't embrace that technology either. But it's easy since we don't have any toll roads or paid parking places.

WM

I think Toyota has the capability without on star but they do not necessarily use it although agency could force them to provide it. It is explained on Toyota website if memory serves correct. I try not to worry about it since I don't plan on giving reason to be tracked.