1652 Massachusetts Oak Tree Shilling! And other colonial goodies. My best hunt ever!

[oxbowbarefoot]

Today was by far by far my best detecting yet! I started detecting around 6am and right off the bat I scored 4 Indian cents in a row. Nice way to begin a marathon day of detecting. On my first return pass, I found a Draped Bust cent and a Connecticut Copper within 5 feet of each other. Another 100ft down the pass I spotted my first Indian Axe Head, which made my day! Soon after, Broken Knee arrived for a while. He made a few cool finds and decided to head to a different part of the site. I decided to stay and finish out the area I had been working. Boy am I glad did. My Deus gave me a real solid sweet sound and began to dig. I flipped the plug, grabbed some dirt and ran it over my coil. It was in my hand. I broke open the clump of dirt to see the beautiful color of old silver looking back at me, with the clear as day date of 1652! I couldn't believe it, my second Massachusetts Colonial Silver in less than a week from the same site! At first I thought it was a Pine Tree Shilling, but once I rinsed it with a little water, the Oak Tree emerged. This is by far my best coin I have ever found. I am still in shock. Does anyone know the variety?

 

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[oxbowbarefoot]

Chris, by the end of the hunt I felt like I wanted to put on my headlamp and keep at it, but my body just wasn't having it. I was an hour late to work today because I could barely sit up. Worth it? Heck yeah.

Joe B, $2,000 for a plow struck axe head? A few hundred I thought, maybe. A couple thousand would change my thought pattern from "not for sale" to "what's your highest and best offer."

Greylock, I'm pretty sure you know the feeling quite well. I imagine it was similar to the one you got when you found your 1796 Half Dime. Also, you only live an hour or so away. Hop on Rt.9, Rt.20, Rt.2, or I-90 and head East for 40 miles. You're more than welcome to hunt with me anytime.

Todd, Is there such a thing as a reverse Jinx? Maybe saying out loud that "I'll never find another Mass Silver, let alone a whole one" was all it took. I am planning on getting the Oak Tree Slabbed, but the Pine Tree I am keeping free from that plastic bondage. I actually find the Cut Pine Tree more interesting and intriguing.

Iron Patch, way to be a Debbie Downer. I was hoping to realize a $42,000 payday. But now, I guess I have to cancel my first class seats to Tahiti. Kidding, of course. Thanks for keeping my hopes (and Ego) in the real world. I appreciate sincerely the research you have done to help me and many of the other members of T-Net to learn more about their finds and to teach us how to do a little research on our own. I don't know what you do for a living, but you'd make a fantastic teacher!

Breezie, you'll probably fly up on the Concorde to bludgeon me when you the pics of the Pine Tree Shilling with the Oak Tree I posted. Both from the same site within a week of each other. I could use a good humbling beating, I wouldn't want to become jaded around the non-1600's colonial goodies. And Don't give Broken Knee any ideas, he lives close and I'm pretty sure he could take me in a scrap

 

[oxbowbarefoot]

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[Iron Patch]

These are exactly the points we make when we see dug coins, compared to coins from collections, sold at auction. Sort of talked to Jason about this when he came to hunt with me. I do think....with condition and detail, a good price would be had at an auction. Although, he could avoid commissions with a private sale. It's a crap shoot. I do not think authenticity would be an issue. IP........If he is looking to sell, outright or in auction, do you think grading is a good idea?? Personally, I have talked to many C-4 members and they prefer to have the coin NOT encased so they can examine it. Whereas they can determine it's condition and value on their own. What is your opinion? Todd

I would not have it graded because I'd rather the buyer base his price on what he sees, and not have the words corroded or environmental damage come into play. Not all coin buyers see things the same way, so you just do your homework and know what a good price is, and then sit on it until you get that amount or more. If it was one of the really rare varieties there's much more of an argument for having it graded... and you probably would have to do it because the higher end stuff demands more attention in every way.

 

[Rick (Nova Scotia)]

These are exactly the points we make when we see dug coins, compared to coins from collections, sold at auction. Sort of talked to Jason about this when he came to hunt with me. I do think....with condition and detail, a good price would be had at an auction. Although, he could avoid commissions with a private sale. It's a crap shoot. I do not think authenticity would be an issue. IP........If he is looking to sell, outright or in auction, do you think grading is a good idea?? Personally, I have talked to many C-4 members and they prefer to have the coin NOT encased so they can examine it. Whereas they can determine it's condition and value on their own. What is your opinion? Todd

I agree with Hogge,

Someone who's willing to shell out serious bucks "should" know what he's doing, if he don't, he's playing a dangerous game.

I buy the coin, not the holder. In my opinion I've seen a few undergraded coins, and MANY over graded coins in those coffins, and I just don't like em.

BTW SUPER FIND. CONGRATS.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Thanks for posting that photo of the coin in the dirt clod. That is something that over 99% of the thousands of detectorists on this forum currently will never, Ever get the chance to see.

Truly amazing.




Best Wishes,



Buck

 

[Silver Searcher]

I would have thought the price would be determined by, what's available, would it be as good, and how long might the next one take to come to auction. Condition is a factor yes, but rarity beats that every day.

SS

 

[matt092079]

Amazing coin man! Beautiful.

 

[Broken knee]

Chris, by the end of the hunt I felt like I wanted to put on my headlamp and keep at it, but my body just wasn't having it. I was an hour late to work today because I could barely sit up. Worth it? Heck yeah.

Joe B, $2,000 for a plow struck axe head? A few hundred I thought, maybe. A couple thousand would change my thought pattern from "not for sale" to "what's your highest and best offer."

Greylock, I'm pretty sure you know the feeling quite well. I imagine it was similar to the one you got when you found your 1796 Half Dime. Also, you only live an hour or so away. Hop on Rt.9, Rt.20, Rt.2, or I-90 and head East for 40 miles. You're more than welcome to hunt with me anytime.

Todd, Is there such a thing as a reverse Jinx? Maybe saying out loud that "I'll never find another Mass Silver, let alone a whole one" was all it took. I am planning on getting the Oak Tree Slabbed, but the Pine Tree I am keeping free from that plastic bondage. I actually find the Cut Pine Tree more interesting and intriguing.

Iron Patch, way to be a Debbie Downer. I was hoping to realize a $42,000 payday. But now, I guess I have to cancel my first class seats to Tahiti. Kidding, of course. Thanks for keeping my hopes (and Ego) in the real world. I appreciate sincerely the research you have done to help me and many of the other members of T-Net to learn more about their finds and to teach us how to do a little research on our own. I don't know what you do for a living, but you'd make a fantastic teacher!

Breezie, you'll probably fly up on the Concorde to bludgeon me when you the pics of the Pine Tree Shilling with the Oak Tree I posted. Both from the same site within a week of each other. I could use a good humbling beating, I wouldn't want to become jaded around the non-1600's colonial goodies. And Don't give Broken Knee any ideas, he lives close and I'm pretty sure he could take me in a scrap

Don't worry Jason, I had my chance! Mister I got your back. On the other hand Breezie seams to be a spitfire she just might? HH
Broken knee

 

[olas13]

Only in my dreams!! What a great find. Congrats and hurry back there!!

 

[Wildcat1750]

Congratulations on a legendary find!!! The axe is a beauty too!

 

[Iron Patch]

I would have thought the price would be determined by, what's available, would it be as good, and how long might the next one take to come to auction. Condition is a factor yes, but rarity beats that every day.

SS

Yes, rarity is what you want first because you'll never dig an uncirculated coin from the ground.


And if you're going to dig a rare one, make it one of these!!! The Oak tree posted here is rarity 3, the Willow below is rarity 8!




Stack's - 1652 Massachusetts Bay Colony. Willow Tree Threepence. Noe 1-A, Cr. unlisted, W - The John J. Ford, Jr. Collection of Massachusetts Silver Coins - 1652 Willow Tree Coins - Willow Tree Threepence - Noe 1-A Willow Tree Threepence. Crosby Unli

 

[Iron Patch]

By the way, if you do find one I probably have a buyer! Even the commission would be amazing to do a deal for something like that.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Yes, rarity is what you want first because you'll never dig an uncirculated coin from the ground.


And if you're going to dig a rare one, make it one of these!!! The Oak tree posted here is rarity 3, the Willow below is rarity 8!




Stack's - 1652 Massachusetts Bay Colony. Willow Tree Threepence. Noe 1-A, Cr. unlisted, W - The John J. Ford, Jr. Collection of Massachusetts Silver Coins - 1652 Willow Tree Coins - Willow Tree Threepence - Noe 1-A Willow Tree Threepence. Crosby Unli

My Jaw just broke as it hit the floor...that's one hell of a price for a coin.

SS

 

[farmdump]

Wow! thats a great 1652 silver! congrats on the KILLER find and HH!

 

[Iron Patch]

My Jaw just broke as it hit the floor...that's one hell of a price for a coin.

SS

Like I said in a post earlier, there would have been many multi millionaires around for that sale as it was the largest Colonial coin collection to exist.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Like I said in a post earlier, there would have been many multi millionaires around for that sale as it was the largest Colonial coin collection to exist.

There's a big London collecter about to sell his collection here, he as the largest collection of Anarchy coinage in Britain, if goes to auction the prices will plummet.

SS

 

[Iron Patch]

There's a big London collecter about to sell his collection here, he as the largest collection of Anarchy coinage in Britain, if goes to auction the prices will plummet.

SS

yeah but it will eventually bounce back once things settle. In fact, big sales like that might act like a stimulus getting many buyers excited, so things might even end up better down the road.

 

[JustinNH]

Wow! Congrats on that coin- looks amazing

 

[Jeff H]

HUGE Congrats Oxbow!!!!