2 reale and a fake!!!!!!!!!

[sscindercoop]

Detected a house that was built in the mid 1700s today any found a 1737 2 reale!!!!!!!! I also found a 1738 1 reale but its a fake. I also got a few eagle buttons and a nice early 1800s gold plated button. The other silver is from a short hunt a few days ago. Thanks for looking HH

 

[CrustyClad]

Very nice

 

[tlf67]

Great job!

 

[VOL1266-X]

Now that's a great hunt. I have never dug a 2 reale. I wouldn't know a fake Reale from an alligator-LOL. Like the button too. WTG, Quindy.

 

[Mackaydon]

Great finds !!
2R Mex. City mint .916 fine silver !!!

 

[gwdigger]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

 

[Fast_Dave]

Great finds! Do you think the 1 reale is a period forgery or a more recent copy?

 

[johnnyblaze]

Nice

A happy day when you find a reale



Blaze

 

[umrgolf]

The one reale pistareen looks real from here... Is it plated or something?

 

[sscindercoop]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

The weight is right but mine is not silver. HH

 

[umrgolf]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

The weight is right but mine is not silver. HH

ok, its not silver. We're wondering what makes you think that

 

[sscindercoop]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

The weight is right but mine is not silver. HH

ok, its not silver. We're wondering what makes you think that

This one rang up like a pop top from a soda can and none of the silver reales come in that low on my machine. Ive never seen silver come out of the ground with a yellowish patina and also It is corroded and I tested it and it contains no silver. I will take better close up pics, I think its a modern counterfeit.

 

[umrgolf]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

The weight is right but mine is not silver. HH

ok, its not silver. We're wondering what makes you think that

This one rang up like a pop top from a soda can and none of the silver reales come in that low on my machine. Ive never seen silver come out of the ground with a yellowish patina and also It is corroded and I tested it and it contains no silver. I will take better close up pics, I think its a modern counterfeit.

That would be the very first modern counterfeit pistareen of any denomination I've ever seen, and it's detail is a perfect match. I've seen many pistareens come out of the ground and they look a little funky sometimes. Anyway, I hope its real, sure looks it to me.

 

[sscindercoop]

Great finds! Do you think the 1 reale is a period forgery or a more recent copy?

I think its a modern copy. HH

 

[sscindercoop]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

The weight is right but mine is not silver. HH

ok, its not silver. We're wondering what makes you think that

This one rang up like a pop top from a soda can and none of the silver reales come in that low on my machine. Ive never seen silver come out of the ground with a yellowish patina and also It is corroded and I tested it and it contains no silver. I will take better close up pics, I think its a modern counterfeit.

That would be the very first modern counterfeit pistareen of any denomination I've ever seen, and it's detail is a perfect match. I've seen many pistareens come out of the ground and they look a little funky sometimes. Anyway, I hope its real, sure looks it to me.

I know what ya mean it does look real and I know sometimes old silver does come out of the ground looking weird but if ya look at the new pics ive posted you can see the small corrosion holes in it. The reason I say its modern is because it looks like it is made of an aluminum alloy. Thanks for looking HH

 

[umrgolf]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

The weight is right but mine is not silver. HH

ok, its not silver. We're wondering what makes you think that

This one rang up like a pop top from a soda can and none of the silver reales come in that low on my machine. Ive never seen silver come out of the ground with a yellowish patina and also It is corroded and I tested it and it contains no silver. I will take better close up pics, I think its a modern counterfeit.

That would be the very first modern counterfeit pistareen of any denomination I've ever seen, and it's detail is a perfect match. I've seen many pistareens come out of the ground and they look a little funky sometimes. Anyway, I hope its real, sure looks it to me.

I know what ya mean it does look real and I know sometimes old silver does come out of the ground looking weird but if ya look at the new pics ive posted you can see the small corrosion holes in it. The reason I say its modern is because it looks like it is made of an aluminum alloy. Thanks for looking HH

I've had a few silver coins come out of the ground with those oxidation pits. I really think you're talking yourself out of this one. An aluminum alloy would be well under the standard weight.

 

[Don in SJ]

If your one photo is how it looked coming out of the ground, then I would say it is a legit coin.

The One Real is a Pistareen and made of debased silver, not the same as the Colonial American Spanish Silver, they were 93% Silver and 7% Copper, but the Pistareen is only 83% Silver and 17% Copper. They are also lighter/thinner, thus contributing to a lower reading on most detectors.

On my Explorer SE test I ran on readout numbers of Spanish Silver, the 1 Real Pistareen read low compared to a 1 Real from Colonial America.
Yr Grains Diam Ferrous Non Ferrous
1 REAL PISTAREEN 1726 29.9 20.0 7 26 83% SILVER 17% COPPER
1 REAL PISTAREEN 1721 36.0 20.6 5 27 83% SILVER 17% COPPER

SPANISH ONE REAL 1749 47.1 20.6 4 28 93% SILVER 7% COPPER
SPANISH ONE REAL 1748 49.6 20.3 4 28 93% SILVER 7% COPPER

The possibility exists it is a counterfeit, but if found with the other coins then I would doubt it would be a modern counterfeit, it would be more logical to be a period coin. but based on your photo, weight given, and the fact it is a pistareen I say there is a good chance it is legit.

Don

 

[Dman]

Great finds.

 

[cntrydncr1]

congrats on your reales, real and fake!

 

[CrazySlasher]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

The weight is right but mine is not silver. HH

ok, its not silver. We're wondering what makes you think that

This one rang up like a pop top from a soda can and none of the silver reales come in that low on my machine. Ive never seen silver come out of the ground with a yellowish patina and also It is corroded and I tested it and it contains no silver. I will take better close up pics, I think its a modern counterfeit.

Ever reale I've dug and every reale I've seen dug using the E-Trac read in that range.