2 reale and a fake!!!!!!!!!

[sscindercoop]

Detected a house that was built in the mid 1700s today any found a 1737 2 reale!!!!!!!! I also found a 1738 1 reale but its a fake. I also got a few eagle buttons and a nice early 1800s gold plated button. The other silver is from a short hunt a few days ago. Thanks for looking HH

 

[Don in SJ]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

The weight is right but mine is not silver. HH

ok, its not silver. We're wondering what makes you think that

This one rang up like a pop top from a soda can and none of the silver reales come in that low on my machine. Ive never seen silver come out of the ground with a yellowish patina and also It is corroded and I tested it and it contains no silver. I will take better close up pics, I think its a modern counterfeit.

Ever reale I've dug and every reale I've seen dug using the E-Trac read in that range.

A Half Real and a One Real Pistareen do read basically the same on detectors, the smaller size of the Half Real accounts for some of the lower reading.
However a milled Bust One Real does read higher due to size and silver content.

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

thats a sweet hunt coop! you are on fire lately man.somebody toss a bucket of water on him!

 

[CrazySlasher]

Just wondering how you know the 1 reale is a fake? Nice hunt! Weight should be 2.7 grams standard.

http://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Seville-Spain-milled-1-real-half-pistareen-Philip-V-1738PJ_i8480045

The weight is right but mine is not silver. HH

ok, its not silver. We're wondering what makes you think that

This one rang up like a pop top from a soda can and none of the silver reales come in that low on my machine. Ive never seen silver come out of the ground with a yellowish patina and also It is corroded and I tested it and it contains no silver. I will take better close up pics, I think its a modern counterfeit.

Ever reale I've dug and every reale I've seen dug using the E-Trac read in that range.

A Half Real and a One Real Pistareen do read basically the same on detectors, the smaller size of the Half Real accounts for some of the lower reading.
However a milled Bust One Real does read higher due to size and silver content.

Makes sense since I've only found 1/2 reale's and have never seen anything other than a 1/2 reale dug.

 

[gwdigger]

Indeed it does look fake now that I see the close ups.

 

[sscindercoop]

Indeed it does look fake now that I see the close ups.

Correct HH

 

[sscindercoop]

If your one photo is how it looked coming out of the ground, then I would say it is a legit coin.

The One Real is a Pistareen and made of debased silver, not the same as the Colonial American Spanish Silver, they were 93% Silver and 7% Copper, but the Pistareen is only 83% Silver and 17% Copper. They are also lighter/thinner, thus contributing to a lower reading on most detectors.

On my Explorer SE test I ran on readout numbers of Spanish Silver, the 1 Real Pistareen read low compared to a 1 Real from Colonial America.
Yr Grains Diam Ferrous Non Ferrous
1 REAL PISTAREEN 1726 29.9 20.0 7 26 83% SILVER 17% COPPER
1 REAL PISTAREEN 1721 36.0 20.6 5 27 83% SILVER 17% COPPER

SPANISH ONE REAL 1749 47.1 20.6 4 28 93% SILVER 7% COPPER
SPANISH ONE REAL 1748 49.6 20.3 4 28 93% SILVER 7% COPPER

The possibility exists it is a counterfeit, but if found with the other coins then I would doubt it would be a modern counterfeit, it would be more logical to be a period coin. but based on your photo, weight given, and the fact it is a pistareen I say there is a good chance it is legit.

Don

All true Don but the pistareen came in way to low and the tone was way off on this one. HH

 

[{Sentinel}]

I agree, I dug a Half-Reale yesterday that was hitting low in the pulltab range...So I may have to agree with Don and Jeff on this one, I think you got yourself a real, One Real Pistareen, congrats my friend!

 

[sscindercoop]

I agree, I dug a Half-Reale yesterday that was hitting low in the pulltab range...So I'm going to have to agree with Don and Jeff on this one, I think you got yourself a real, One Real Pistareen, congrats my friend!

Thanks Sentinel but mine came in way to low on my machine and the tone Id was way off. look at the video I posted. HH

 

[gwdigger]

Ok, we know it is 100% fake. I dont think there should be any debating that. So what is the metal?

I dont know anything about platinum except that people faked coins out of it because platinum was not a desirable metal back then. Its hard for me to understand a modern fake 1738 half pistareen in that yard.

http://www.flgoldcoinexchange.com/Inventory/Details/321/

 

[{Sentinel}]

Was hoping it was real for you my friend, that's too bad.

 

[Steve in PA]

It doesn't look real to me, it looks like it may be cast. Here is a real 1738 one reale pistereen. However, I don't know that it is necessarily a "modern" copy.

The pillar style 2 reale is a nice find. You don't see many pillar style Spanish coins in the 1730s.

 

[steelheadwill]

Nice Spanish 'Quarter'!
very odd to pull a real & a copy so close together, unless it was a period fake.
It does appear to be a modern cast copy to my eyes,
I'm no expert, but I do have a collection of modern Colonial copies.
I experienced the same kind 'sound effects' when I dug a 1962 nickel, then a 1944 right after
Mysteries abound

 

[MaineRelic]

Great silver ! Your amazing year continues ! M.R.