A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[Quinoa]

So if I had this carving on a wall . I could measure from this to my a-frame rock?

I wouldn't know how to use that.

 

[Mattock]

I wouldn't know how to use that.

It would not be any fun if it was just that easy. for some reason, and it seems like they used to like to use these dog heads for their monuments. I have quite a few.

 

[Carl-NC]

There wasn't any feedback when Sandy posted the video, so does anyone think this guy is credible? And does anyone know what he's talking about starting at 34:46?

No comments? No one? OK, here's what Mr. Kryder says at 34:46:

With the gravity of what we were about to work on and the gravity about what we were going to pull out, with everything that was done, including measurements by a machine made by Bob Fitzgerald which measures the mass of gold, it rings a harmonic bell like when someone sings and shatters a glass. We rang the gold with a field that was a 50-mile diameter field. It's over most of small radio stations in broadcast power. And we rang its bell to the maximum amount that the machine could create, a what's called a "phase-locked loop." You have to be 200 feet away when you run it. ... But the point is, we maxed the machine at 150 tons.

Who is Bob Fitzgerald and what is this machine he's talking about? Here's a link to Bob's web site:

http://www.treasurenow.com/html/products.html

The majority of his products are the dreaded LRLs, excepting the pulse detectors and the Mother Load (sic) Locator. I happen to own several of these devices: Si-Go, Mini Eliminator II, PDF-1000, Millennium-2000, Maxi-Pulse Plus, Mother Load Locator, PPL, and Raven. The Maxi-Pulse is a poor-depth PI detector, the MLL is a garbage-quality resistivity meter, and the rest are LRLs. Most of them look like a child built them, the quality is so bad. But none of the LRLs work to any degree whatsoever.

What Mr. Kryder is talking about is using an LRL to determine that there's 150 tons of gold buried there. So he's ground-truthing his site(s) with a magnetometer he doesn't understand and an LRL that doesn't do anything at all. I found it amusing that the only problems Sandy expressed about this video was not being able to trust investors or the archaeologist [geologist?]. Based on what I see, I would not trust anything Kryder says about the site. He seems to have a penchant for jumping to (usually wild) conclusions with little or no bases in fact. My favorite is this little gem:

And so I thought, what if that shape [rock] we see right there could potentially be a rendition of the sail of a ship, and that these two ships [rocks] are sailing around in a circle around a subject of interest. Now, it seems outlandish and it seems crazy and you go, "Wow, that's kind of farfetched, you could take anything from that." But understanding the lion , the standing stone, the opposing two marks, it made sense. There's a logic to it from their frame of mind.

Okaaay, enough of that. I will say with great confidence that Mr. Kryder has found nothing at all at this site. And judging from his web site, probably nothing at all, ever. Anyone agree? Disagree?

 

[Secret squirl]

Does this mean documentary "sasquatch sunset" is not real?? But it was nominated for an award.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30180830/?ref_=ttawd_i_3
2024 Nominee Original Vision Award

 

[Treasure Auras]

Does this mean documentary "sasquatch sunset" is not real?? But it was nominated for an award.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30180830/?ref_=ttawd_i_3
2024 Nominee Original Vision Award

I guess all the tools dug up in the Robert Kryder video aren't man made either, or were they left out on purpose just to try and make him look like he never found anything.

 

[sdcfia]

. . . .
Okaaay, enough of that. I will say with great confidence that Mr. Kryder has found nothing at all at this site. And judging from his web site, probably nothing at all, ever. Anyone agree? Disagree?

Whether Mr. Kryder is out there locating searching for lost treasure, advanced ancient technology or bigfoot (the "big three" in reality adventure), he is consistent. One of these days . . .

 

[Quinoa]

No comments? No one? OK, here's what Mr. Kryder says at 34:46:

Who is Bob Fitzgerald and what is this machine he's talking about? Here's a link to Bob's web site:

http://www.treasurenow.com/html/products.html

The majority of his products are the dreaded LRLs, excepting the pulse detectors and the Mother Load (sic) Locator. I happen to own several of these devices: Si-Go, Mini Eliminator II, PDF-1000, Millennium-2000, Maxi-Pulse Plus, Mother Load Locator, PPL, and Raven. The Maxi-Pulse is a poor-depth PI detector, the MLL is a garbage-quality resistivity meter, and the rest are LRLs. Most of them look like a child built them, the quality is so bad. But none of the LRLs work to any degree whatsoever.

What Mr. Kryder is talking about is using an LRL to determine that there's 150 tons of gold buried there. So he's ground-truthing his site(s) with a magnetometer he doesn't understand and an LRL that doesn't do anything at all. I found it amusing that the only problems Sandy expressed about this video was not being able to trust investors or the archaeologist [geologist?]. Based on what I see, I would not trust anything Kryder says about the site. He seems to have a penchant for jumping to (usually wild) conclusions with little or no bases in fact. My favorite is this little gem:

Okaaay, enough of that. I will say with great confidence that Mr. Kryder has found nothing at all at this site. And judging from his web site, probably nothing at all, ever. Anyone agree? Disagree?

Yeah , we all are aware about the bad types of detectors especially okm and lrls..... And everyone in close knows a 2-3 ton recovery is pretty much gigantic max anyways. Most I've heard of is about 7500lbs. Nobody is looking for that, although I know places...... Anything in that range you are going to be dead . People disappear very quickly. We are looking for 50-200 pounds. Gold or silver. Happy days.

 

[Treasure Auras]

Yeah , we all are aware about the bad types of detectors especially okm and lrls..... And everyone in close knows a 2-3 ton recovery is pretty much gigantic max anyways. Most I've heard of is about 7500lbs. Nobody is looking for that, although I know places...... Anything in that range you are going to be dead . People disappear very quickly. We are looking for 50-200 pounds. Gold or silver. Happy days.

People digging a hundred feet are not looking at overnight caches which should be within a few feet of the ground surface to the bedrock then the vault or caprock in the bedrock.

 

[Quinoa]

People digging a hundred feet are not looking at overnight caches which should be within a few feet of the ground surface to the bedrock then the vault or caprock in the bedrock.

Have not looked at it {videos}.

 

[Quinoa]

I have a lot of weirder stuff than anything on here anyways, and you knew that when I showed the dino/steg monument on the website that got infiltrated a few years back. We are just trying to find the shallow stuff, and not trying to make too much sense of it.
We are after being better off. And that is achievable... And that is the goal here. These small caches are now 2-8 million+. This is retirement...and no more worries. I am interested in the distances, and compass bearings from known markers. I want retirement type info, as I suppose others might. There was a guy I talked with on here a while back that did it. Called me from an old pay phone....

 

[Carl-NC]

Yeah , we all are aware about the bad types of detectors especially okm and lrls

Problem is, you guys are doing exactly what Kryder is doing; just replace "LRL" with "aura." There is zero scientific basis for either. Here is Sandy's theory:

The sun puts out sporadic radiation (the radiation rarely hits the same area more than once) this radiation bounces off the processed metals in the ground and shows as a photon burst on or above the ground.

Sorry, this ain't so, and it's straight from Matacia's book which is packed full of pseudoscience nonsense. If it were true, then jewelry stores everywhere would have auras and Minelab would already be producing an aura detector. I would suggest trying find a geophysicist who supports this -- and you have access to one right here on TNet: Ryan North (99thpercentile) -- but I think you guys are just as certain auras are real as Kryder is certain that his LRL found 150 tons of gold.

 

[sdcfia]

Problem is, you guys are doing exactly what Kryder is doing; just replace "LRL" with "aura." There is zero scientific basis for either.

Carl, cognitive dissonance is a cruel master. Yes, phosphorescence is a verified phenomena, and again, here's the dead-on explanation (likely will be summarily ignored):

It's caused by a well-known phenomena in areas where rock types are rich in quartz. Geologic structures below the surface are constantly under variable degrees of localized mechanical stress (pressure), especially near faults. Today, this is increasing due to the accelerating heating and upward push of the earth's mantle layer. This results in the well-known piezoelectric effect that creates an electrical charge which ionizes if it reaches the atmosphere. This results in the sporadically seen "earthquake lights", most common near epithermal veins (typically very rich in quartz). The American Southwest is extremely rich in silica (quartz) - granites, rhyolites, sandstones, et al.

This is a forum, not a blog - it's a two-way street here. As always, hard science in this thread could be irrelevant, but the extraordinary claims made require indisputable evidence to be accepted. Present a series of photos from a successful recovery - from aura detection to ground signs discovered at the aura site to a dig sequence to the in-situ result. The location doesn't matter, but verification of the steps that show a true recovery does. Otherwise it's just another Kryder story.

 

[Quinoa]

Quantum tunneling is how the particles supposedly hit the metals deep in the ground. Oddly enough, the largest storage places I have located all popped auras during solar flares, I have 3 of them. Still waiting to get landowner permission for them, they are in highly visible locations near river bottoms or roadways (old travel routes).

It can also pop on the slow wave portion that takes a while to hit the earth, The initial blast is in about 8 seconds , but the slower wave can take hours to a day or so and can provide a good time for smaller locations to pop auras. During the initial blast one time, when I was testing getting auras, the power lines starting buzzing and all the insects (crickets /grasshoppers) went silent. I had 7 cameras set up (they take a picture every 10 seconds but not synchronized). I caught an aura on a place I wasn't targeting specifically, kind of just down and to the side of the hillside we were trying to focus on, but when I investigated the aura, you could see a place just up the hill slightly that was very odd, like it had been dug/disturbed at one time making a large oval shape on the hill.. There is a "storage turtle" about a hundred feet away which has a crack on it you look thru and you see that same area on the ground...Plus a few other things...

So I'll take my chances that it's not a coincidence these are occurring.

 

[Mattock]

Carl how coincidental you bring up Ryan the man does now his field. But maybe you should actually communicate with him like I have before throwing names out.

 

[Treasure Auras]

Quantum tunneling is how the particles supposedly hit the metals deep in the ground. Oddly enough, the largest storage places I have located all popped auras during solar flares, I have 3 of them. Still waiting to get landowner permission for them, they are in highly visible locations near river bottoms or roadways (old travel routes).

It can also pop on the slow wave portion that takes a while to hit the earth, The initial blast is in about 8 seconds , but the slower wave can take hours to a day or so and can provide a good time for smaller locations to pop auras. During the initial blast one time, when I was testing getting auras, the power lines starting buzzing and all the insects (crickets /grasshoppers) went silent. I had 7 cameras set up (they take a picture every 10 seconds but not synchronized). I caught an aura on a place I wasn't targeting specifically, kind of just down and to the side of the hillside we were trying to focus on, but when I investigated the aura, you could see a place just up the hill slightly that was very odd, like it had been dug/disturbed at one time making a large oval shape on the hill.. There is a "storage turtle" about a hundred feet away which has a crack on it you look thru and you see that same area on the ground...Plus a few other things...

So I'll take my chances that it's not a coincidence these are occurring.

There are Politics involved with people who spend Decades on Treasure Hunting websites with one purpose of trying to disprove anything that could give away treasure locations, after all with gold and silver prices going up there are potentially Billions if not Trillions worth of treasure still buried which means there are people (Sentinels) who's only job is to protect the treasures themselves as well as Deny any legitimate Information of how to locate them including information that is put out on the Internet.

 

[Carl-NC]

Yes, phosphorescence is a verified phenomena, and again, here's the dead-on explanation (likely will be summarily ignored):

See #7013. If these photo anomalies are from EQLs (which I highly doubt) then all they've managed to locate are rocks.

Quantum tunneling is how the particles supposedly hit the metals deep in the ground.

Can you provide a reference to this? I used to design microchips and that's not how quantum tunneling works.

But maybe you should actually communicate with him like I have before throwing names out.

I have.

which means there are people (Sentinels) who's only job is to protect the treasures themselves as well as Deny any legitimate Information of how to locate them

I knew this would pop up again. Believe it or not (probably not), I'm trying to point you guys in the right direction, or at least point you away from the wrong direction. Sentinels were fabricated by Brewer, they aren't real. Even if they were, I'm 20 miles from the Canadian border, hardly a useful sentinel for anything buried in the SW. Personally, I would love to see one of you pluck a treasure out of the ground and will even help if I can. The only thing I can do right now is tell you auras aren't real and hope you accept the challenge to determine if I'm right. Something the LRL guys were never able to do.

 

[Mattock]

Hey Carl, did you used to work for the military?

 

[Carl-NC]

Hey Carl, did you used to work for the military?

No

 

[Mattock]

No

With such an extensive knowledge of electronics. It must’ve been learned from some type of military contractor. Maybe Raytheon ,Northrop Grumman ,Hughes.

 

[Carl-NC]

I have a Master's in EE, 21 years in chip design, 20 years in metal detector design.