A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[Quinoa]

His lrl posts is just basically fishing, ignore it. He never believed in that.

 

[Quinoa]

I will say, the lrl reference is dumb , nobody believes that anymore and nobody serious ever did... go ahead Carl.

 

[Quinoa]

Say one more word on validating lrls though, and im out.

 

[XMRKSpot!]

(#44)


I am going to show a couple of random Fox Heads so you guys will have a good idea of what they look like. The Fox is at a whole lot of these treasure sites (they do not point the way to go) but in many cases are a part of a cluster of boulders that you will need as one of the alignment points (many times associated with the Snake and Crocodile just like I showed in #43 Green rectangle) or in other cases just used to point at another important marker.




Here are Two Fox Heads found near treasures within 100 feet, so if you find a Fox Head you are very close to a treasure area and its time to start looking for those alignment boulders/rocks.
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Its time to revisit the Alignment Shaft sign, The alignment
A-Frame is actually a part of a cluster of signs which includes the boulder to the right of it.
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Now I am going to show what happens as we walk around this boulder, so this next picture of the Fox Head is actually visible in the last photo but is distorted until I move to the right a few feet.
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Then moving to the right even more, until we are in the front of the nose of the fox we find that the fox has transformed into a Crocodile Head and there is a Lightning Bolt right below it which are all very evil signs, Meaning Death.
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Then as we continue right we finally come to The Alignment and the Shadow Snake.
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Here is what the Shadow Snake is Eating a half hour later the Upside Down Lit Up Heart, and if you look to the left of the Heart you will see that there is a Shadow Fox Looking at the Heart (look for his ears sticking up and nose pointing to your right)
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Then as we continue to the right around this Cluster of Markers we come to the Shaft Sign
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You can see that they used all sides for markers in some cases however most are 2 dimensional. These two clusters of markers I have shown go to two large Holy Church Treasures within a half mile of each other with Death Traps.




I have shown this panel complete with light and shadow signs so you guys can understand how to read the signs as well as how these particular signs/symbols are connected to the alignments and to the spot to dig.





(#45)


Each Site has many Different Enticers, meaning that there can always be more than just one of the same kind of marker that are completely bogus (certain markers more than others) the one this most often occurs with is the Heart (which I will be discussing soon) this is why you always need to (verify the spot to dig) which is what I will be explaining towards the end.




These bogus/enticers (that are markers you normally would use) are part of what I was talking about on #41, 99 percent of markers are just enticers/camouflage and are meant to keep you digging in false holes or deathtraps.




This is why I am showing Individual Standalone Permanent Boulders as the markers. The Treasure Markers that they really needed to use stand out, and are verified with certain images that I have been showing, and most importantly verified in the last way which is what I have not discussed yet.





(#46)


Now I am going to be showing some more Simple Alignments, the distances will not be necessary at this point (however all of these are within 150 feet of the dig spot) These are so you have an idea of what the alignment rocks/boulders look like for reference of what you can expect to see in the field, and an idea of how far alot of these smaller ones are apart from each other.




Here is another Pointed Type of Rock that aligns with a line on the rock behind it to the dig spot which is where I am taking the picture from.
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This is the same marker as in the last photo but I got down low enough to align the pointed front rock and the line on the back rock.
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This is going to a completely different treasure, and on this particular Alignment Boulder you will see a Shaft Sign (the long squared U with parallel sides left of the sun light)
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Here is the same boulder as the last photo but shows the Second Alignment Boulder marked behind it back in the shadows. (Notice how I am centering the two Boulders with line of sight). If you look at this in a smaller image such as a thumbnail you will realize how pointed this close rock really is. (notice how the back boulder has two saguaros on either side of it, these were planted and are for marking the back rock so its easier for the sentinels to find)
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Other times the Alignment Boulders are not pointed or Peaked at all,(a good example is #42) These next two are not peaked either, but both are saying something, the back one is a Shaft Sign that we are aligning with the front one which is a Turtle (notice his rock head on the right) and the line is going right over this turtles shell, this is another way to use a Turtle to get to the dig spot.
(Again notice how there is a sentinel Planted saguaro next to the back rock to make the back rock easier to locate)
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I am including another picture of the Turtle in the last photo so you can see him better as well as the Shaft Sign behind him this picture is slightly off alignment to the dig spot.
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The Sentinels plant all kinds of things that help relocate the old important markers, they also will cut off a tree just a few feet tall to make a stump as an eye catcher for an important flat or hard to see rock marker that is very close by, they also use different color trees for this purpose as well. always be on the lookout for anything out of the ordinary. even if it is an enticer it is probably close to a treasure area.




These Alignments are in many shapes and sizes. (I will be showing more as we go along





(#47)


Here are a few more alignments that go to dig spots.




This first one (I am at the dig spot taking the picture) which is just a Simple Two Rock Alignment that seems innocent enough, but when I get towards the end information you will realize how important it and all the others alignments really are.


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Here I am standing at another dig spot shooting back at two alignment boulders(circled in Red and Blue) up on the hill way behind these is an eye catcher boulder (dark) to draw your attention to this line.
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This is a closeup of the alignment boulder that is circled in blue in the last photo.
Notice how it is peaked or in the General A-Frame Shape.
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This is a closeup of the second alignment Boulder that was circled in red, Notice the two small rocks sandwiched in between, these are Eyes and are saying look here this is Important.
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These alignment markers can be any size or shape and most of the time will be within 200 feet of the dig spot (there are rare exceptions that are up to 600 feet away)





(#48)


Here, I am showing something that should get you thinking about the sentinels, these Two Saguaros were planted Not Long before I took this Picture, and Align to a dig spot (the Red arrow points to the dig spot) These two Saguaros are Exactly 33 feet apart.
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Here are the two Small Sentinel Planted Saguaros from the last photo aligned to the dig spot (The compass is on the dig spot)
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I have seen even newer saguaros planted at other treasure sites, so the Sentinels are definitely still active and are monitoring and remarking these treasure sites across the entire US, still to this day (not just here in AZ)




Here is a different type of Sentinel Alignment (from #32 last picture) The Saguaro is aligned through the shell of the turtle to the dig spot in the direction of the drawn arrow.
(The Saguaro and Turtle are Exactly 66 feet apart)
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This is the same picture as the last photo but it is aligned and includes the dig spot (which is exactly 33 varas from the Saguaro to the dig spot or 90.75 feet)(the compass is on the dig spot)
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(#49)

It has come time to explain how to use and how not to use the carved Heart.




Many people have found these hearts everywhere, and if you do, this is a great sign that you are near a treasure area, in case you guys have missed the entire theme that I have been talking about with these animals/signs/symbols, it pretty much goes like this Holy, Evil, Death and Resurrection, and much of it has to do with Jesus Christ.




My understanding of the heart is that it is Jesus's Heart, and is found where the symbolized tomb of Jesus is located (which is the treasure tomb as well because Jesus is the treasure)




There are a couple types of hearts, one is a Trail Heart which is standing or propped up (not laying flat on the ground) These Trail Hearts can be seen from washes or on the trails, and are simply saying your on the right trail and you just keep on going, these types of hearts are not close to the treasure (unless they are Sentinel made) also these standing hearts generally have other rocks around them that point out a direction to go. Sometimes they are flat (laying down) on the trail to the treasure area as well.
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The Spanish as well as the Priests all knew that people trying to steal their treasures would be looking for the Heart to lead them to the treasures, and anybody finding the heart would dig wherever the heart pointed to, so of course this was taken advantage of and these hearts were scattered everywhere near a treasure, these individual hearts are not to be followed as they can easily lead you into a deathtrap, or at the very least a false/enticer hole that will keep you busy digging away from the treasure.
These Individual Enticer Hearts are buried markers as well, and again will lead you all over the place (except to the Entrance that is)




Here is your Typical Individual loose/movable Heart that will be laying/scattered on top of the ground around a treasure area, this heart is about a hundred feet from the dig spot, but since this heart gives us no direction whatsoever we do not follow it, even though it could be just feet from the entrance.
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These Hearts can be the size of a small car at some old sites or as small as a few inches and they will come in all kinds of colors white/red/black etc. however none of that matters (when I get to the important hearts you will understand why)

All that really matters with the heart is that its presence shows you are either in a treasure area or on the trail to a treasure area.





(#50)


Awhile back I got lucky and caught another Aura.




Here is the Aura, this is cropped way down as I was a good mile from the mountain taking this picture.
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So I went to this spot looking for markers and right away I found a Heart very close to the Aura
Here is the Heart
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But then, I found something completely Unexpected, I found a Tailing Pile at the aura spot with a bunch of branches from a palo verde tree laying on the tailings.
Here is the Aura spot marked with the pentagon and the Heart from the last photo marked with a red circle.
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So somebody else had been digging on this treasure before I ever got there.





(#51)


More on the Hearts, we have a couple here that are oddballs in a way, they tell us there is a treasure in the immediate area, but don't exactly pinpoint it.




This Heart is an Oddball, because it is a Heart in a Snakes Mouth and it is directly up hill from a treasure.(shown in #35 last two pictures) This Heart is only used because its in the Snakes Mouth, Verifying that the Snake and Heart are to be used.
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This last Heart is actually marking the place to dig by pointing at it with its tip, but since there are a whole lot more loose and movable hearts laying around that you could think the same thing about, this one or any others like it are not to be followed at all. (the drawn Pentagon is the dig spot)
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As a side note, It makes absolutely no difference if the heart is upside down or any other direction, the reason in many cases the heart is upside down is because the pointed tip is used as an alignment peak.





(#52)


Now that I have shown Hearts that are not to be used in the field due to the fact that (there is no way to get a correct direction from them, Guessing on which way to go from a Heart/Marker is a good way to waste a huge amount of Time and Effort) so now it is time for us to look at Hearts you will be using.




This First Picture is a Standalone Heart and absolutely would never be used under normal circumstances. but upon closer examination we find something interesting, this heart is not just laying on top of the ground it is Mostly Buried meaning somebody wanted it to stay in one place, The only reason something is made permanent, especially a treasure marker, is because its location is important and only works if not moved.(notice the Black area on the Hearts left side)
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So we look around this Heart and find another rock that is mostly buried nearby it, which interestingly enough has an A-Frame carved on it.(circled)
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At this point we no longer have just a Heart but also an A-Frame Alignment Rock, so we put these two together and we get an alignment (which is a line of sight) to follow from the tip of the A-Frame through the center of the Heart going to the dig spot.(Two things to notice, the A-Frame is only visible from the dig spot, but the heart is not visible from the dig spot, you can match the angle of the heart with the black area on it in the first picture and see how we are viewing the heart from the side.
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Now for the entire picture the A-Frame Aligned through the Heart to the Dig Spot (marked with the pentagon) This picture is not on the line so I drew a line for the alignment to the dig spot.
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(In other words, other markers point the way to go not the heart)
while the A-Frame is carved on the back rock/boulder, what is really important is that the entire rock/boulder is standalone, the one thing I have tried to show is that each one of these alignment rocks/boulders are standalone.



Here is a Sentinel Placed Heart that is just a few feet from the dig spot, this is a single heart that I would normally never look at twice, but I found a reason to look at it again after looking at and past it from the dig spot.
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Here is what I saw when I looked past the Heart from the dig spot (the Heart is circled)
(The water bottle is marking the dig spot)
Two aligned Sentinel Planted Saguaros going right to the dig spot. (Notice how these are two different sizes, each one was planted many years apart) The Back Saguaro is 111 feet from the dig spot, and Originally was aligned with the Heart, then many years later the closer saguaro was added to make the alignment easier to find (two saguaros instead of a heart and Saguaro are easier to find and match each other)
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The Only Single Hearts that are used to give a direction (not attached to another animal/marker/cluster or pointed out by another marker such as a shaft sign) are Alignment Hearts, Any others are not to be trusted to give a direction.

In the pics on 47 with the big red circle trace the outline of the circle and see a small skull in the approx 11:00 o-Clock position and riding on the red circle.

Then, in the 2nd to last pic or one above this one directly above my comment, there’s ax “X” on that rock.

 

[XMRKSpot!]

OK, just to clarify...it is on the other thread?
I believe I do have a tombstone. In front of this rock the ground is humped up as it would be if it were a fresh burial. Would you consider the following a headstone?:
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I would most def consider this a headstone, especially in the peacfuy

 

[XMRKSpot!]

I would most def consider this a headstone, especially in the peaceful spot that it’s in! I have found many Pioneer & Spanish Headstones just like this. Last one I found was a Gonzalez

And then on a tree behind it was carved two Angel Wings coming together in a heart formation and the point of the heart was straight down on the headstone and it read;
“Gonzales!” It was old-old but maybe not as old as the grave. It looks as if someone came back 5-10 years after buried to visit. I could be way off base tho, I just know it’s trying to portray a grave site and there is liken fungus stuff that is growing thru the letters on the rock supposedly that doesn’t start growing until at least 100 years. The letters were carved first because the Liken covers them but you can pour water over the letters and see it perfectly. I know it’s spanish because they are the letters are perfectly centered, straight and done as if an artist drew them. Spanish / Mexican people are excelent drawers usually. This is under a very beautiful cedar tree facing due east if that means anything. It is 33’ from the center of the headstone to a filled in mineshaft. They filled it in with trees branches and rocks, not much dirt. I always thought it was a treasure site since the Gonzalez on the headstone seemed wrong and then the wings making a heart pointing to grave with the correct spelling of Gonzales. I am going to GPR it soon as snow melts. Any thoughts as to this being a grave or a BRAVO TANGO LOCATION?

(Two z’s)

 

[XMRKSpot!]

The only issue I have with your hearts as deathtraps Barker, is that not all hearts are marking deathtraps. I would have went more with what Chadeaux said as leading to your hearts desire, but as a further step knowing the Diamond is the fifth wound in the side of Jesus (in the statue its in his heart area)this would indicate we are dealing with Jesus's Heart. This is also, from my understanding, why they use the pentagon as well at these sites (which is really a pentacle) and is showing the five wounds of Christ.

Hearts w/ a broken lobe usually mean Death Trap as well, so I hear, No real clue tho!

 

[Carl-NC]

Quinoa, I appreciate the kind words, seriously. I genuinely try to help people as much as I can.

I only bring up LRLs as an analogy to what's being discussed here. No, LRLs don't work and are usually sold as outright scams. But people still believe in them, often passionately. Just today I got an email from a guy in the Middle East asking me for LRL advice. It happens a lot.

Back in the early days of TNet -- about 25 years ago -- there was a very active LRL forum. There were a lot of guys there who designed and built LRLs, even some who manufactured and sold them. Skeptics would come and go and the obvious question repeatedly posed to the LRL proponents was: where are all the recoveries from these wonder devices? The typical answers were:

• How do you know I haven't recovered any treasure?
• Anyone who finds a treasure will never talk about it.
• The treasure is on public land and cannot be legally retrieved.
• The treasure is on private land and I cannot get permission.
• The treasure was too deep to recover.
• The LRL gets you close, but can't exactly pinpoint it.
• The treasure was already gone and I was detecting its remnant/aura.
• I pinpointed the treasure, but I'm not interested in digging it up. The fun is in finding it.
• I felt the presence of sentinels (or, back then, spirits) so I got out of there.

I call these "alibis." Despite repeated failures, every last one of these guys was absolutely convinced that LRLs can and do really work. But the physics just ain't there; the field results show it, but so would a more rigorous approach to testing them. I met a bunch of these guys in Quartzsite one year (2000 I think) to see if I could inject some reality. The answer was no, but we did otherwise have a pleasant time, they were all very nice folks.

But the question here is, do these alibis look familiar? Despite the stated disdain for LRLs, what I see here is a downright eerie déjà vu with the same kind of logic and investigative rigor folks use to promote LRLs. I don't mean similarities or parallels; it's absolutely identical to the approach used with LRLs, with some of the exact same arguments and alibis.

Regardless of the reality of monuments, markers, and all that, one thing in this thread is absolutely certain: treasure auras do not exist. The idea originated (AFAIK) with Louis Matacia (ironically, a dowser) using Polaroids and migrated to digital photography with David Villanueva (another dowser). Like LRLs, auras are something that can be scientifically investigated and even tested for. But, first and foremost, it requires that some level of doubt replace absolute certainty. And then it requires knowledge of how to properly test a claim. Those were 2 elements the TNet LRLers could never muster. More than anything, they preferred believing over knowing. They didn't even want to try.

Polaroid auras were caused by defects in the development method used in Polaroid film, most notably with the SX-70. Villanueva's auras are caused by grossly overprocessing a dark image. What Sandy is experiencing is most likely due to random hot pixels, which is why they always seem to be the same size no matter the distance to the spot, why they rarely occur, and why they don't repeat at the same location. Most importantly, it is possible to create a test to determine whether these anomalies are caused by hot pixels or anything else. And if auras are real, then it should also be possible to create a test that demonstrates this. I've yet to see this kind of rigor applied here; instead, it's just more of the old LRL forum. I was actually quite surprised at the strong rejection of LRLs considering the acceptance of auras, they tend to go hand-in-hand.

 

[XMRKSpot!]

I would most def consider this a headstone, especially in the peaceful area it seems to be in.

 

[sdcfia]

Quinoa, I appreciate the kind words, seriously. I genuinely try to help people as much as I can.

I only bring up LRLs as an analogy to what's being discussed here. No, LRLs don't work and are usually sold as outright scams. But people still believe in them, often passionately. Just today I got an email from a guy in the Middle East asking me for LRL advice. It happens a lot.

Back in the early days of TNet -- about 25 years ago -- there was a very active LRL forum. There were a lot of guys there who designed and built LRLs, even some who manufactured and sold them. Skeptics would come and go and the obvious question repeatedly posed to the LRL proponents was: where are all the recoveries from these wonder devices? The typical answers were:

• How do you know I haven't recovered any treasure?
• Anyone who finds a treasure will never talk about it.
• The treasure is on public land and cannot be legally retrieved.
• The treasure is on private land and I cannot get permission.
• The treasure was too deep to recover.
• The LRL gets you close, but can't exactly pinpoint it.
• The treasure was already gone and I was detecting its remnant/aura.
• I pinpointed the treasure, but I'm not interested in digging it up. The fun is in finding it.
• I felt the presence of sentinels (or, back then, spirits) so I got out of there.

I call these "alibis." Despite repeated failures, every last one of these guys was absolutely convinced that LRLs can and do really work. But the physics just ain't there; the field results show it, but so would a more rigorous approach to testing them. I met a bunch of these guys in Quartzsite one year (2000 I think) to see if I could inject some reality. The answer was no, but we did otherwise have a pleasant time, they were all very nice folks.

But the question here is, do these alibis look familiar? Despite the stated disdain for LRLs, what I see here is a downright eerie déjà vu with the same kind of logic and investigative rigor folks use to promote LRLs. I don't mean similarities or parallels; it's absolutely identical to the approach used with LRLs, with some of the exact same arguments and alibis.

Regardless of the reality of monuments, markers, and all that, one thing in this thread is absolutely certain: treasure auras do not exist. The idea originated (AFAIK) with Louis Matacia (ironically, a dowser) using Polaroids and migrated to digital photography with David Villanueva (another dowser). Like LRLs, auras are something that can be scientifically investigated and even tested for. But, first and foremost, it requires that some level of doubt replace absolute certainty. And then it requires knowledge of how to properly test a claim. Those were 2 elements the TNet LRLers could never muster. More than anything, they preferred believing over knowing. They didn't even want to try.

Polaroid auras were caused by defects in the development method used in Polaroid film, most notably with the SX-70. Villanueva's auras are caused by grossly overprocessing a dark image. What Sandy is experiencing is most likely due to random hot pixels, which is why they always seem to be the same size no matter the distance to the spot, why they rarely occur, and why they don't repeat at the same location. Most importantly, it is possible to create a test to determine whether these anomalies are caused by hot pixels or anything else. And if auras are real, then it should also be possible to create a test that demonstrates this. I've yet to see this kind of rigor applied here; instead, it's just more of the old LRL forum. I was actually quite surprised at the strong rejection of LRLs considering the acceptance of auras, they tend to go hand-in-hand.

Brilliant post Carl. Your analogy is spot on. However, people can believe anything they wish. We're all unique and ought to follow our own stars. The only problem I've witnessed in open forums is the gaslighting of folks with questions or opinions contrary to the subject. But . . . that's life.

The "treasure aura" (documented using cameras by taking thousands of exposures until it becomes visible) is a real thing, and it's very likely caused by well-known phenomena in area where the rock types are rich in quartz. Geologic structures below the surface are constantly under variable degrees of localized mechanical stress (pressure), especially near faults. Today, this is increasing due to the accelerating heating and upward push of the earth's mantle layer. This results in the well-known piezoelectric effect that creates an electrical charge which ionizes if it reaches the atmosphere. This results in the sporadically seen "earthquake lights", most common near epithermal veins (typically very rich in quartz) The American Southwest is extremely rich in silica (quartz) - granites, rhyolites, sandstone, et al.

Another possible cause of surface light flashes is the occasional random interaction of solar wind particles with earth's magnetosphere. Probably much less common.

I'm skeptical of treasure aura claims, also of the LRL adherents. However, I will say that dowsing can be a real thing - I've verified two dowsers' abilities myself. Two, not all, not most, not many. Two.

 

[Rubenrod]

Quinoa, I appreciate the kind words, seriously. I genuinely try to help people as much as I can.

I only bring up LRLs as an analogy to what's being discussed here. No, LRLs don't work and are usually sold as outright scams. But people still believe in them, often passionately. Just today I got an email from a guy in the Middle East asking me for LRL advice. It happens a lot.

Back in the early days of TNet -- about 25 years ago -- there was a very active LRL forum. There were a lot of guys there who designed and built LRLs, even some who manufactured and sold them. Skeptics would come and go and the obvious question repeatedly posed to the LRL proponents was: where are all the recoveries from these wonder devices? The typical answers were:

• How do you know I haven't recovered any treasure?
• Anyone who finds a treasure will never talk about it.
• The treasure is on public land and cannot be legally retrieved.
• The treasure is on private land and I cannot get permission.
• The treasure was too deep to recover.
• The LRL gets you close, but can't exactly pinpoint it.
• The treasure was already gone and I was detecting its remnant/aura.
• I pinpointed the treasure, but I'm not interested in digging it up. The fun is in finding it.
• I felt the presence of sentinels (or, back then, spirits) so I got out of there.

I call these "alibis." Despite repeated failures, every last one of these guys was absolutely convinced that LRLs can and do really work. But the physics just ain't there; the field results show it, but so would a more rigorous approach to testing them. I met a bunch of these guys in Quartzsite one year (2000 I think) to see if I could inject some reality. The answer was no, but we did otherwise have a pleasant time, they were all very nice folks.

But the question here is, do these alibis look familiar? Despite the stated disdain for LRLs, what I see here is a downright eerie déjà vu with the same kind of logic and investigative rigor folks use to promote LRLs. I don't mean similarities or parallels; it's absolutely identical to the approach used with LRLs, with some of the exact same arguments and alibis.

Regardless of the reality of monuments, markers, and all that, one thing in this thread is absolutely certain: treasure auras do not exist. The idea originated (AFAIK) with Louis Matacia (ironically, a dowser) using Polaroids and migrated to digital photography with David Villanueva (another dowser). Like LRLs, auras are something that can be scientifically investigated and even tested for. But, first and foremost, it requires that some level of doubt replace absolute certainty. And then it requires knowledge of how to properly test a claim. Those were 2 elements the TNet LRLers could never muster. More than anything, they preferred believing over knowing. They didn't even want to try.

Polaroid auras were caused by defects in the development method used in Polaroid film, most notably with the SX-70. Villanueva's auras are caused by grossly overprocessing a dark image. What Sandy is experiencing is most likely due to random hot pixels, which is why they always seem to be the same size no matter the distance to the spot, why they rarely occur, and why they don't repeat at the same location. Most importantly, it is possible to create a test to determine whether these anomalies are caused by hot pixels or anything else. And if auras are real, then it should also be possible to create a test that demonstrates this. I've yet to see this kind of rigor applied here; instead, it's just more of the old LRL forum. I was actually quite surprised at the strong rejection of LRLs considering the acceptance of auras, they tend to go hand-in-hand.

I have personally used LRLs on and off for more than 8 years and what I have located at the exact spots were old horse shoes in the middle of the mountain and other items related to metal as well as highly mineralized ground and one time that I can recall a aluminum can but other than that nothing else. For one reason or another they are more attracted to magnetic items and not nonferrous metals thats why I would get fustrated and stop using them and a few months later I would go back and try again hoping to locate somthing nonferrous. Maybe it has to do with the magnetic fields that the metals create in the ground after being burried for a certain amount of time but im not 100% certain of that. As far as auras, in Mexico the old timers call them flames in fact I was called one time because a delivery man had stopped off the side of the road to use the bathroom and witnessed a small flame coming out of the ground and he said it would go up and down just for a few seconds then disapeared so a couple of weeks later we went to the exact spot where he saw the flame and I passed the detector over the area and got a hit right away, we dug and a half of meter down we located a large piece of metal but nothing else which means auras ( flame looking) do exist. The explanation the old timers in mexico have and I will add that I have spoken to quite a few is that metals burried underground for a long period of time will create gases and when these gases built up they find there way up to the surface through the cracks in the ground and the auras are the gases coming out of the ground. It does make sence to me because I have heard alot of stories where someone finds a treasure by accident and inhales the air and they become very sick and many times even die.

 

[Secret squirl]

I need to correct one of my bearings I gave out, It's actually the 202.5/22.5 line not the 337.5 . I must have had that 337.5 in my head from another spot we were measuring to on a spot behind the A frame more in the creek watershed bottom. Anyways between the A frame and the shaft sign its 22.5/202.5 degrees which is still a 16 or 32 point compass (still 66 feet between them). We dug in line at 33 feet from it (lining up the shaft sign larger boulder and the A frame into the hillside dead across the trail, but did not hit it. We got a possible marker at about 2-3 feet deep which I should have hand dug, shaped exactly like the A frame face which probably pointed. We have a another nearby spot that goes exactly perpendicular off the face of the A frame on the 225/45 degree line into the hillside across the trail ( which is a 22.5 degree turn )which we will try in a couple weeks. There's more but it gets complex explaining it in an easy to understand fashion with bearings and measurements and markers. There is another A frame above on the hillside that kind of has a shaft symbol on it but it's done as a filled space made of two fractures instead of empty space shaft sign. Anyways we are not done there yet.

Q, any chance of a sketch to help explain this in a clearer way?

 

[Carl-NC]

This results in the sporadically seen "earthquake lights"

EQL coronal discharges have typically been reported to last seconds to minutes, in a variety of shapes and sizes. However, I will concede that Sandy has possibly photographed the triboelectric effect, which is due to rocks, not treasure. Again, there are simple ways to test for this.

The photos I've seen so far suggest either hot pixels or the ADC occasionally hitting a metastable state. And this can be tested for.

I have personally used LRLs...

I only used LRLs as an analogy; if you want to discuss their usage, there is an LRL forum for thst.

 

[Quinoa]

EQL coronal discharges have typically been reported to last seconds to minutes, in a variety of shapes and sizes. However, I will concede that Sandy has possibly photographed the triboelectric effect, which is due to rocks, not treasure. Again, there are simple ways to test for this.

The photos I've seen so far suggest either hot pixels or the ADC occasionally hitting a metastable state. And this can be tested for.


I only used LRLs as an analogy; if you want to discuss their usage, there is an LRL forum for thst.

I posted a strange aura sometime back that we dug up a coin cache on, so they are quite real.

 

[Treasure Auras]

I posted a strange aura sometime back that we dug up a coin cache on, so they are quite real.

The Only way to Debunk Auras as coming from treasures is to Completely Ignore the Same types of carved Man made treasure markers such as turtles eagles ducks etc. repeated at multiple aura locations with logical layouts (and Crisscross spots that have repeated measurements at multiple aura locations)

 

[intheknow]

I posted a strange aura sometime back that we dug up a coin cache on, so they are quite real.

Could you see the aura with the naked eye?

 

[intheknow]

I posted a strange aura sometime back that we dug up a coin cache on, so they are quite real.

Were you able to see the aura with the naked eye?

 

[Quinoa]

Were you able to see the aura with the naked eye?

No we set up cameras, we were looking for a different type we suspected somewhere on the property. We have a big one located nearby but it's on a steep hill with a highway below it. Pretty risky dig due to rolling rocks and debri, and of course, visibility.

 

[intheknow]

No we set up cameras, we were looking for a different type we suspected somewhere on the property. We have a big one located nearby but it's on a steep hill with a highway below it. Pretty risky dig due to rolling rocks and debri, and of course, visibility.

Ok thank you, I have heard of treasure hunters in the Phillipines able to see auras without equipment. No validation though.

 

[Carl-NC]

I posted a strange aura sometime back that we dug up a coin cache on, so they are quite real.

1. Back in the heyday of SX-70 auras, a guy named Don Danylyk posted a Polaroid of an old house where the photo has the classic "Polaroid flare." They then metal detected the house and discovered a small cache of coins behind a brick in the fireplace. He also showed other Polaroid flare examples where nothing was found.
2. Despite the utter bogosity of LRLs, I know of a case where an LRL user actually located a cache of silver coins. How could that happen if LRLs are bogus? Well, he used the LRL a whole lot and followed up every LRL-detected spot with a metal detector until he eventually found something.

These are cases of the classic "Blind Squirrel" scenario. Do it enough and you might eventually get a hit, regardless of the validity of the process. Unfortunately, an otherwise random discovery can grossly skew one's perception of what is going on, leading them down a long road of wasted time. A better approach is to devise tests to see what actually works and what doesn't. Ferinstance, if auras are real, can you bury a test target and get repeatable results?

The Only way to Debunk Auras as coming from treasures is to Completely Ignore the Same types of carved Man made treasure markers such as turtles eagles ducks etc. repeated at multiple aura locations with logical layouts (and Crisscross spots that have repeated measurements at multiple aura locations)

I take it you are only attempting aura photography at these particular sites, so it makes sense that when you manage to capture an anomaly it is always at one of these sites. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy. OTOH, if the anomalies are caused by the camera itself, you could get these anomalies anywhere. That might be a worthy experiment.