A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[Carl-NC]

Is it just coincidental that there would be only one lens flare maybe two at a location that had 8 to 10 thousand pictures taken and there were multiple carved rocks a shaft sign a rabbit an owl or two. An alegater Turtle head multiple snails. And this happens at say ten to twenty different locations. What are those odds?

In an area with a lot of rocks, I'd say the odds are quite high.

 

[Carl-NC]

So how many treasures has your Auras produced?

An aura hunter never ever reveals whether they've found treasure or not, it's a secret. Same with dowsers and LRL users. Folks who use metal detectors, magnetometers, and side scan sonar, however, show their recovered treasures quite often.

BTW, you're now a sentinel.

 

[pepperj]

An aura hunter never ever reveals whether they've found treasure or not, it's a secret. Same with dowsers and LRL users. Folks who use metal detectors, magnetometers, and side scan sonar, however, show their recovered treasures quite often.

BTW, you're now a sentinel.

Shall I add "Dust motes" to the list of never going to see proof?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I have not seen any land recoveries of gold or silver bars posted on treasurenet that they themselves dug up however I know of at least 10 different vaults that have been dug up with treasure in them. People are not stupid enough to be goaded into showing their legally gray area finds on the internet especially when their are millions of dollars involved anybody who thinks otherwise has not dug up a treasure (tell me that YOU would post millions of dollars worth of treasure bars online that You dug up). There is not a chance in hell that I would ask anybody to post gold bars they dug up on the internet with the potential of getting them in serious trouble.

No one on TreasureNet has posted pictures of unicorns they caught, but I know of 10 people who caught one.

 

[Treasure Auras]

I have not seen any land recoveries of gold or silver bars posted on treasurenet that they themselves dug up however I know of at least 10 different vaults that have been dug up with treasure in them. People are not stupid enough to be goaded into showing their legally gray area finds on the internet especially when their are millions of dollars involved anybody who thinks otherwise has not dug up a treasure (tell me that YOU would post millions of dollars worth of treasure bars online that You dug up) There is not a chance in hell that I would ask anybody to post gold bars they dug up on the internet with the potential of getting them in serious trouble. (Unless that is your goal)

 

[Mattock]

To protect Native American sites but it has a big blanket that it covers.

 

[Treasure Auras]

Any (Stamped) Gold or Silver Bars are absolutely covered under that law as they are of historical value because they show (Past) ownership, however in todays world the IRS would be a much greater threat, and again anybody who says they would TRY to make their treasure legal or pay their taxes on millions of dollars worth of treasure bars has never found a treasure or are incredibly naive.

 

[Mattock]

These posers, or gate keepers is what I like to refer to them as they have no clue look at the saddle ridge hoard and what those people went through and they were on private property.

 

[robertk]

Nobody is saying that treasures have not been found, just that nobody has ever found one just by following the lens flare on their camera. It’s rather like digging at the end of a rainbow.

 

[Puff the Tragic Wagon]

Any (Stamped) Gold or Silver Bars are absolutely covered under that law as they are of historical value because they show (Past) ownership, however in todays world the IRS would be a much greater threat, and again anybody who says they would TRY to make their treasure legal or pay their taxes on millions of dollars worth of treasure bars has never found a treasure or are incredibly naive.

So that’s it? That’s your excuse for not posting proof of a recovery on even one of these “million dollar vaults” you’re peddling ?

It’s illegal and you’re avoiding paying taxes?

Here you are, using Treasurenet’s website to “publish” a how-to commit a crime and evade taxes book.

“But it’s only a crime if you can prove they really exist!”.
(You can’t because they don’t). And “Intent” to commit a crime by itself is not punishable by law. L.O.L.

What a bunch of BS.

Earlier in this thread I compared this group to being in a Cult and was ridiculed.Based on the dynamics I’ve observed, this group can absolutely be considered a cult.

While Sandy1’s thread “A Guide to Treasure Vault Hunting” may look like just an unusual internet hobby from the outside, the psychological and behavioral patterns within this group strongly match the definition of a high-control group or a digital cult.

In a classic cult dynamic, the leader frames themselves as the sole possessor of a hidden truth. In this group, Sandy1 positions himself as the "Master" who uniquely understands "treasure auras," invisible energy lines, and complex rock monument codes that mainstream science and history ignore. Followers must accept his interpretations completely.

A foundational tactic of cultish groups is convincing followers that the outside world is actively lying to them or conspiring against them. Sandy1 explicitly fosters this by claiming that the U.S. government, state governments, and academic institutions are hiding the existence of Spanish/ Jesuit/ Catholic treasure vaults. He positions his skeptics as government shills or "Sentinels" with a hidden agenda to keep people from the truth.

The group demands deep loyalty. On internet forums and private messaging groups, this manifests as online isolation. Members who express doubt, point out geological realities, or question why no actual multi-million dollar "vaults" are ever successfully excavated are quickly shamed, dogpiled by other members, or banished from the community. This creates an echo chamber where only total compliance is allowed.

Cultish groups use the promise of a massive, life-changing reward to keep people hooked. By dangling the illusion of unimaginable wealth (buried gold vaults worth Millions) just one "marker" away, members invest thousands of hours, immense emotional energy, and sometimes their life’s savings into chasing a fantasy, making it psychologically painful for them to admit they might be wrong.

What Carl and I experienced just the other day on this thread is a classic high-control tactic called ideological enforcement. In this / Sandy’s group, opposing viewpoints aren't just seen as disagreements; they are viewed as an existential threat to the leader’s authority and the group’s shared fantasy. When we questioned the narrative, the group reacted aggressively to protect their echo chamber and silence the doubt we introduced.

So, yeah. I compared Sandy1 to a cult leader. And, as I have just shown, he meets the criteria, as does this group.

If the shoe fits.

 

[Mattock]

Nobody is saying that treasures have not been found, just that nobody has ever found one just by following the lens flare on their camera. It’s rather like digging at the end of a rainbow.

That is very interesting. How do you personally know that?

 

[Bygolly]

So that’s it? That’s your excuse for not posting proof of a recovery on even one of these “million dollar vaults” you’re peddling ?

It’s illegal and you’re avoiding paying taxes?

Here you are, using Treasurenet’s website to “publish” a how-to commit a crime and evade taxes book.

“But it’s only a crime if you can prove they really exist!”.
(You can’t because they don’t). And “Intent” to commit a crime by itself is not punishable by law. L.O.L.

What a bunch of BS.

Earlier in this thread I compared this group to being a in a Cult and was ridiculed.Based on the dynamics I’ve observed, this group can absolutely be considered a cult.

While Sandy1’s thread “A Guide to Treasure Vault Hunting” may look like just an unusual internet hobby from the outside, the psychological and behavioral patterns within this group strongly match the definition of a high-control group or a digital cult.

In a classic cult dynamic, the leader frames themselves as the sole possessor of a hidden truth. In this group, Sandy1 positions himself as the "Master" who uniquely understands "treasure auras," invisible energy lines, and complex rock monument codes that mainstream science and history ignore. Followers must accept his interpretations completely.

A foundational tactic of cultish groups is convincing followers that the outside world is actively lying to them or conspiring against them. Sandy1 explicitly fosters this by claiming that the U.S. government, state governments, and academic institutions are hiding the existence of Spanish/ Jesuit/ Catholic treasure vaults. He positions his skeptics as government shills or "Sentinels" with a hidden agenda to keep people from the truth.

The group demands deep loyalty. On internet forums and private messaging groups, this manifests as online isolation. Members who express doubt, point out geological realities, or question why no actual multi-million dollar "vaults" are ever successfully excavated are quickly shamed, dogpiled by other members, or banished from the community. This creates an echo chamber where only total compliance is allowed.

Cultish groups use the promise of a massive, life-changing reward to keep people hooked. By dangling the illusion of unimaginable wealth (buried gold vaults worth Millions) just one "marker" away, members invest thousands of hours, immense emotional energy, and sometimes their life’s savings into chasing a fantasy, making it psychologically painful for them to admit they might be wrong.

What Carl and I experienced just the other day on this thread is a classic high-control tactic called ideological enforcement. In this / Sandy’s group, opposing viewpoints aren't just seen as disagreements; they are viewed as an existential threat to the leader’s authority and the group’s shared fantasy. When we questioned the narrative, the group reacted aggressively to protect their echo chamber and silence the doubt we introduced.

So, yeah. I compared Sandy1 to a cult leader. And, as I have just shown, he meets the criteria, as does this group.

If the shoe fits.

Hahaha...omg. Then why not just stay off of this thread? You're free to go. Nobody forces you to stay and post your lame "clinical diagnosis."

There is no group here that "demands loyalty". Maybe the respect and appreciation people show to S1 on this thread, is earned and given freely because they have actually followed his advice and information, to the T. Who knows, by doing so, maybe they HAVE found something. The thing is, nobody has to prove it on here to ANYONE. Just go try it, thats where you'll find your proof.

What's sad is that people who dont have anything to contribute to the subject, continue to disrupt this thread. Its easy, just go away... theres no cult here, just information and experiences that you and a few others refuse to believe. Fine, nobody cares about your opinions, whats the point of being a disruptive, internet psychologist? Its pointless.

If i was to diagnose your behavior, it would be "Pathetic".

 

[sdcfia]

So that’s it? That’s your excuse for not posting proof of a recovery on even one of these “million dollar vaults” you’re peddling ?

It’s illegal and you’re avoiding paying taxes?

Here you are, using Treasurenet’s website to “publish” a how-to commit a crime and evade taxes book.

“But it’s only a crime if you can prove they really exist!”.
(You can’t because they don’t). And “Intent” to commit a crime by itself is not punishable by law. L.O.L.

What a bunch of BS.

Earlier in this thread I compared this group to being a in a Cult and was ridiculed.Based on the dynamics I’ve observed, this group can absolutely be considered a cult.

While Sandy1’s thread “A Guide to Treasure Vault Hunting” may look like just an unusual internet hobby from the outside, the psychological and behavioral patterns within this group strongly match the definition of a high-control group or a digital cult.

In a classic cult dynamic, the leader frames themselves as the sole possessor of a hidden truth. In this group, Sandy1 positions himself as the "Master" who uniquely understands "treasure auras," invisible energy lines, and complex rock monument codes that mainstream science and history ignore. Followers must accept his interpretations completely.

A foundational tactic of cultish groups is convincing followers that the outside world is actively lying to them or conspiring against them. Sandy1 explicitly fosters this by claiming that the U.S. government, state governments, and academic institutions are hiding the existence of Spanish/ Jesuit/ Catholic treasure vaults. He positions his skeptics as government shills or "Sentinels" with a hidden agenda to keep people from the truth.

The group demands deep loyalty. On internet forums and private messaging groups, this manifests as online isolation. Members who express doubt, point out geological realities, or question why no actual multi-million dollar "vaults" are ever successfully excavated are quickly shamed, dogpiled by other members, or banished from the community. This creates an echo chamber where only total compliance is allowed.

Cultish groups use the promise of a massive, life-changing reward to keep people hooked. By dangling the illusion of unimaginable wealth (buried gold vaults worth Millions) just one "marker" away, members invest thousands of hours, immense emotional energy, and sometimes their life’s savings into chasing a fantasy, making it psychologically painful for them to admit they might be wrong.

What Carl and I experienced just the other day on this thread is a classic high-control tactic called ideological enforcement. In this / Sandy’s group, opposing viewpoints aren't just seen as disagreements; they are viewed as an existential threat to the leader’s authority and the group’s shared fantasy. When we questioned the narrative, the group reacted aggressively to protect their echo chamber and silence the doubt we introduced.

So, yeah. I compared Sandy1 to a cult leader. And, as I have just shown, he meets the criteria, as does this group.

If the shoe fits.

Food for thought Puff.

My litmus test for all aspects of life on earth is, “What do you believe and why do you believe it?” This attitude has always earned me the title of “sentinel” on TNet of course, because people will do whatever they can to avoid dealing with that nasty thing called cognitive dissonance. Oh well.

Not withstanding verification of the “aura method” and what it has allegedly accomplished, a key point in this thread, for me anyway, just won’t go away re “treasure hunting“. If you dug up a boatload of gold that someone, rightly or wrongly, might challenge your claim to it or your actions after obtaining it, why in the world would you announce your recovery to the world (a million views on a public forum)? This one question cuts through all the arguments about auras and the tedium of the acolytes’ attacks on the skeptics IMO because it goes against human nature.

 

[Treasure Auras]

Hahaha...omg. Then why not just stay off of this thread? You're free to go. Nobody forces you to stay and post your lame "clinical diagnosis."

There is no group here that "demands loyalty". Maybe the respect and appreciation people show to S1 on this thread, is earned and given freely because they have actually followed his advice and information, to the T. Who knows, by doing so, maybe they HAVE found something. The thing is, nobody has to prove it on here to ANYONE. Just go try it, thats where you'll find your proof.

What's sad is that people who dont have anything to contribute to the subject, continue to disrupt this thread. Its easy, just go away... theres no cult here, just information and experiences that you and a few others refuse to believe. Fine, nobody cares about your opinions, whats the point of being a disruptive, internet psychologist? Its pointless.

If i was to diagnose your behavior, it would be "Pathetic".

You are absolutely right anybody who doesn't like what I have to say is more than free to leave.

 

[Bygolly]

That's exactly the point Bg, - one can explain why there would be caches in the Santa Rita area. Yeah, Chino today is a low grade open pit copper mine with minor gold recoveries. But back in the 1700s, it was yielding solid native copper metal at grass roots and high grade free gold in calchocite and bornite ores in shallow oxide deposits. We know that for a fact.

So where did the alleged AZ aura cache gold bullion come from? If it truly was from Jesuit mines as claimed, why haven't the Jesuits recovered the bullion in modern times? Did they forget where they cached it? I think not, as they were always considered to be the smartest folks in the room. If there are indeed Jesuit caches, then I'd assume the Order has valid and precise documentation of their locations. If there are Jesuit caches, they would likely have a strong legal claim on the gold. Of course, if there were no caches in the first place, it would be a moot point.

Sure, thats a good question. I wish I had the answer, but im not the expert on this subject. All I know, is that whether its the Spanish or Jesuit, or whichever location it happened at, the proof is this: Its influenced by Catholicism. S1 talks about Spanish/Catholic origin, you claim more of Jesuit/Catholic origin. Who cares? Its Catholic influenced and it exists. Thats all I personally care about.

As to Jesuit laws that claim these caches/vaults, and maps or descriptions that give their precise whereabouts, may exist. I dont know. If so, then their laws may have been incorporated into our own laws, that makes it more difficult to dig them up or recover/own or claim them. Like the antiquities laws, or the EO that FDR signed in the 1930s. I imagine many of these locations are left where they are because they think its safer and more advantageous, where they are for the time being. IMO.

 

[Puff the Tragic Wagon]

You are absolutely right anybody who doesn't like what I have to say is more than free to leave.

And anyone who doesn’t like what I have to say can put me on ignore. But all you do is tell your acolytes to ignore me then keep coming back for more yourself. Which is it? I’m beginning to think I’m getting through to a few and you’re feeling nervous.

I’m not going anywhere. I have just as much right to post here as you do. If you don’t want to see my posts you are more than welcome to put me on ignore. If you can. Lol

 

[Carl-NC]

If you dug up a boatload of gold that someone, rightly or wrongly, might challenge your claim to it or your actions after obtaining it, why in the world would you announce your recovery to the world (a million views on a public forum)? This one question cuts through all the arguments about auras and the tedium of the acolytes’ attacks on the skeptics IMO because it goes against human nature.

I get that. Finding a 300-yr-old cache of gold bars on public land doesn't leave you with many options for a legal recovery. But I would certainly explore all options (even getting Congress involved) before attempting the underhand route. Laundering $10 million in gold bars ain't easy, and getting caught will probably land you in prison. What we need is a treasure trove law like England has, so whatever you find is fairly compensated for.

 

[Treasure Auras]

These posers, or gate keepers is what I like to refer to them as they have no clue look at the saddle ridge hoard and what those people went through and they were on private property.

Just about every story you hear of a hoard being found and turned into the authorities from the Atocha the Saddle Ridge hoard and even Forrest Fenn's treasure had legal complications

 

[Copper Frog]

As a refresher, the topic of this thread is treasure signs and auras..I don't know why some TN folks spend so much time trying to poke other TN folks in the eye. Is the thread not about sharing methods, cracking the megalithic codes and enjoying time in the field? I dont understand why some people on here are so determined to derail the thread just so they can claim to be "right". Who cares if some people hunt treasure with aura cams, why the breathless desperation to convince aura hunters that they're wrong? Even calling these explorers cultists, lol. If someone uses aura hunting as an excuse to be in nature, breathing fresh air and putting miles under their truck wheels and potentially striking gold...I'm going to be celebrating and encouraging them.

The bickering on this thread is juvenile and pathetic.

 

[Treasure Auras]

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As a refresher, the topic of this thread is treasure signs and auras..I don't know why some TN folks spend so much time trying to poke other TN folks in the eye. Is the thread not about sharing methods, cracking the megalithic codes and enjoying time in the field? I dont understand why some people on here are so determined to derail the thread just so they can claim to be "right". Who cares if some people hunt treasure with aura cams, why the breathless desperation to convince aura hunters that they're wrong? Even calling these explorers cultists, lol. If someone uses aura hunting as an excuse to be in nature, breathing fresh air and putting miles under their truck wheels and potentially striking gold...I'm going to be celebrating and encouraging them.

The bickering on this thread is juvenile and pathetic.

Its pretty hard to believe at this point that its just opposing view points, it seems to me to be more like attacks.