🔎 UNIDENTIFIED A Smooth Rifle (again)

[EnvoyToTheMolePeople]

Last week I posted asking about a percussion musket I was considering buying, and I went ahead and bought it today. I still know very little about it, but now I can take more pictures. It's a smooth bore percussion cap musket. The markings say "LEMAN LANCTR. PA". Does anybody have a good idea of how old this rifle is and/or what it's worth?

 

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[Clovis4343]

Last week I posted asking about a percussion musket I was considering buying, and I went ahead and bought it today. I still know very little about it, but now I can take more pictures. It's a smooth bore percussion cap musket. The markings say "LEMAN LANCTR. PA". Does anybody have a good idea of how old this rifle is and/or what it's worth?

I'm gonna make a guess it was made after the 1830s (1830s to 1870s) just because of it being a half stock ( wood not going the whole way out the barrel) I'm not sure what it would be worth for sure alot of things would come into play for the value like the condition of the bore and if the locks work properly and overall condition of the wood..if its in good shape i would guess in the 600 to 1000 dollar range...it's a nice gun and if I owned it I would make sure the metal is all good and I would shoot it and maybe even take it hunting...

 

[Retired Sarge]

I would join a blackpowder gun forum and post it, to learn more. We have a lot of knowledgeable people here.....But the guys on a BP specific forum eat, breathe, live BP weapons. Like the one linked below, oh and they have a firearm identification section.

The Muzzleloading Forum

Muzzleloading Forum discussion community & muzzleloading/reenactors for sale classifieds. Muzzle loading forums for reenactors, mountain men, French & Indian War, Civil War reenactors.

www.muzzleloadingforum.com

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

Here is a link to Henry E Leman riflemaker. It shows all the history and when he made rifles. Oh he made them in Lancaster Pennsylvania. https://collections.lancasterhistory.org/media/library/docs/edit_vol40pp37_49.pdf

 

[l.cutler]

Most likely 1840's to 1850's. Value, would probably be in the $500 to $600 range.

 

[EnvoyToTheMolePeople]

I would join a blackpowder gun forum and post it, to learn more. We have a lot of knowledgeable people here.....But the guys on a BP specific forum eat, breathe, live BP weapons. Like the one linked below, oh and they have a firearm identification section.

The Muzzleloading Forum

Muzzleloading Forum discussion community & muzzleloading/reenactors for sale classifieds. Muzzle loading forums for reenactors, mountain men, French & Indian War, Civil War reenactors.

www.muzzleloadingforum.com

That's a good suggestion, I'll definitely try that.

 

[EnvoyToTheMolePeople]

Ok, I went ahead and posted it to the muzzleloader forum. https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/leman-smooth-rifle.159430/

 

[Timbermaster]

Here is a link to Henry E Leman riflemaker. It shows all the history and when he made rifles. Oh he made them in Lancaster Pennsylvania. https://collections.lancasterhistory.org/media/library/docs/edit_vol40pp37_49.pdf

Very good read. OP could have a real piece of history in his hands. Thanks for posting this!

 

[unclemac]

....here is an odd request.... anyone know where I can buy a nice wall hanger cliche "Kentucky Long Rifle?"

 

[EnvoyToTheMolePeople]

....here is an odd request.... anyone know where I can buy a nice wall hanger cliche "Kentucky Long Rifle?"

If you just want a wall hanger, you should probably go for a replica

 

[Retired Sarge]

....here is an odd request.... anyone know where I can buy a nice wall hanger cliche "Kentucky Long Rifle?"

For replica non firing rifle that you can age to look older. A quick search for Kentucky Long Rifle came up with these. They sell around $130.00 plus, which is a lot cheaper than a real one.

non firing replica kentucky long rifle - Google Search

 

[ColtsPop]

I agree with l.cutler and suggest the value might be even less than $500 even if it fires.

 

[l.cutler]

I agree with l.cutler and suggest the value might be even less than $500 even if it fires.

I agree, after some research I was kind of generous with my value estimate! Dennis Fulmer antique arms has a Leman marked halfstock in similar condition listed for $425, and that is from a dealer so is probably top end.

 

[EnvoyToTheMolePeople]

It's nice that everybody is giving me accurate value estimates after I bought it.