Button

[MichiganJason]

I found this button in a local park. I was using a Tesoro Cibola and it was a depth of about 4 inches. From the research that I did, I found that it was worn by Hessian soldiers in the revolutionary war.

 

[piggman1]

Cool button, but could you resize the pic? That's a nice one!

 

[ivan salis]

quite nice ---huge photo lots of detail

 

[MichiganJason]

Cool button, but could you resize the pic? That's a nice one!

I just wanted to show detail. You can scroll to the right to see the whole thing.

 

[Nana40]

Super find, Jason! Congrats!

Nana

 

[outraged]

Sweet button!!!


Here is a smaller pic...sorry if you did not want it smaller.

 

[John (Ma)]

That's pretty cool, maybe there's more in the area to add to it. Good luck

 

[MichiganJason]

Thanx everybody, I am certainly going to try to add to the collection.

 

[Baggins]

Wow! I can only hope to find something that old soon! Great find!!
Baggins

 

[The Bulgarian]

COOL WTG.

 

[Colonial KirkPA]

Good 1600s button!

 

[V3 SNIPER]

Nice button keep up the good work.

 

[N.J.THer]

Congrats on the button now go back and look for more..lol.

NJ

 

[PBK]

Despite its crude and antique appearance, it's actually modern (20th century) "blazer" button which was made for use on sports coats, jackets, sweaters, etc. The bird, sometimes depicted with three legs, is often described as a Teutonic eagle. The motto Spes Nostra Es Deus is Latin for, "God is our hope."

Blazer buttons often feature antique-looking designs or crests, and Latin or pseudo-Latin mottoes. Although some of the older ones are of all-brass construction, they are still two-piece, which of course would put them well into the 19th century even if they weren't modern. Most, however, have tinned iron or steel backs... usually badly rusted or missing on dug ones.

By the way, a number of years ago one of these buttons was mistakenly written up as a Hessian button from the Revolutionary War, and that error has been repeated ever since.

 

[MichiganJason]

Despite its crude and antique appearance, it's actually modern (20th century) "blazer" button which was made for use on sports coats, jackets, sweaters, etc. The bird, sometimes depicted with three legs, is often described as a Teutonic eagle. The motto Spes Nostra Es Deus is Latin for, "God is our hope."

Blazer buttons often feature antique-looking designs or crests, and Latin or pseudo-Latin mottoes. Although some of the older ones are of all-brass construction, they are still two-piece, which of course would put them well into the 19th century even if they weren't modern. Most, however, have tinned iron or steel backs... usually badly rusted or missing on dug ones.

By the way, a number of years ago one of these buttons was mistakenly written up as a Hessian button from the Revolutionary War, and that error has been repeated ever since.

Of all the people that have seen this button, On all the websites I have sent it to, You are the first one to question it. You could be right, But I am inclined to beleive the 40 other people who told me what they thought it was. Which was a Revolutionary War button. But who knows

 

[Montana Jim]

Despite its crude and antique appearance, it's actually modern (20th century) "blazer" button which was made for use on sports coats, jackets, sweaters, etc. The bird, sometimes depicted with three legs, is often described as a Teutonic eagle. The motto Spes Nostra Es Deus is Latin for, "God is our hope."

Blazer buttons often feature antique-looking designs or crests, and Latin or pseudo-Latin mottoes. Although some of the older ones are of all-brass construction, they are still two-piece, which of course would put them well into the 19th century even if they weren't modern. Most, however, have tinned iron or steel backs... usually badly rusted or missing on dug ones.

By the way, a number of years ago one of these buttons was mistakenly written up as a Hessian button from the Revolutionary War, and that error has been repeated ever since.

Of all the people that have seen this button, On all the websites I have sent it to, You are the first one to question it. You could be right, But I am inclined to beleive the 40 other people who told me what they thought it was. Which was a Revolutionary War button. But who knows

Did you just ask "who knows"?

Trust that PBK probebly knows... that seemed like a pretty thorough reply addressing the button in it's entirety.

And may I ask why your questioning it if 40 folks already told you it was a rev war button?

 

[PBK]

Jason, if I've given you bad information, I certainly regret it. Obviously, I don't believe that's the case, or I wouldn't have posted it; however, I respect your reluctance to accept my opinion or anyone else's if you believe that you've been given authoritative proof to the contrary.

Best wishes in all your ventures!
PBK

 

[Don in SJ]

Just for info:

In the Military Buttons of the American Revolution, by Don Troiani, he states that all Hessian buttons were plain buttons and hard to distinguish from civilian buttons.

A photo of the back on any button in question is always needed for a more proper identification.

 

[ModernMiner]

Despite its crude and antique appearance, it's actually modern (20th century) "blazer" button which was made for use on sports coats, jackets, sweaters, etc. The bird, sometimes depicted with three legs, is often described as a Teutonic eagle. The motto Spes Nostra Es Deus is Latin for, "God is our hope."

Blazer buttons often feature antique-looking designs or crests, and Latin or pseudo-Latin mottoes. Although some of the older ones are of all-brass construction, they are still two-piece, which of course would put them well into the 19th century even if they weren't modern. Most, however, have tinned iron or steel backs... usually badly rusted or missing on dug ones.

By the way, a number of years ago one of these buttons was mistakenly written up as a Hessian button from the Revolutionary War, and that error has been repeated ever since.

Of all the people that have seen this button, On all the websites I have sent it to, You are the first one to question it. You could be right, But I am inclined to beleive the 40 other people who told me what they thought it was. Which was a Revolutionary War button. But who knows

Jason,
Just an FYI.
I recently bought two different books to ID some old buttons I had dug. After spending about $60+ on the books, I still couldn't ID about 15 of them. After PMing PBK, and e-mailing him some photos (front & back), he was nice enough to ID them all for me in no time at all. With his help I was able to finally label and file my buttons correctly.
Just about a week ago, I dug another old button (Mass.) and posted it in the "what is it" section. Here it is:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,96628.0.html
No one, including PBK could ID it on the forum. Did he try to blow smoke up my butt for no reason and come up with some false info for me? NO, he did not. He was nice enough to refer me to another button expert (Warren Tice) who did make the ID. Turns out my button is from the Revolutionary War period which made my day.
Without PBK's help, I would still be waiting on an ID. The man knows his stuff, and has no reason to shoot you bull.
I'm sure you were very excited to find that button, and are hoping like h-ll it was the real McCoy. Feel free to take the other 40 opinions. I'm sure if I were to post a picture of a CZ ring up, over half the folks would say it is diamond. Something to think about.
Good luck,
MM

 

[MichiganJason]

Despite its crude and antique appearance, it's actually modern (20th century) "blazer" button which was made for use on sports coats, jackets, sweaters, etc. The bird, sometimes depicted with three legs, is often described as a Teutonic eagle. The motto Spes Nostra Es Deus is Latin for, "God is our hope."

Blazer buttons often feature antique-looking designs or crests, and Latin or pseudo-Latin mottoes. Although some of the older ones are of all-brass construction, they are still two-piece, which of course would put them well into the 19th century even if they weren't modern. Most, however, have tinned iron or steel backs... usually badly rusted or missing on dug ones.

By the way, a number of years ago one of these buttons was mistakenly written up as a Hessian button from the Revolutionary War, and that error has been repeated ever since.

Of all the people that have seen this button, On all the websites I have sent it to, You are the first one to question it. You could be right, But I am inclined to beleive the 40 other people who told me what they thought it was. Which was a Revolutionary War button. But who knows

Did you just ask "who knows"?

Trust that PBK probebly knows... that seemed like a pretty thorough reply addressing the button in it's entirety.

And may I ask why your questioning it if 40 folks already told you it was a rev war button?


Ummm....Montana Jim, I don't recall questioning it at all....I posted the pic for you all to see. I didnt ask for any info on it. And PBK could be right, I could really care less, Either way it is not worth much, I go for coins mostly anyway and have little interest in buttons.