✅ SOLVED Clay Bottle or Jug Stopper?

[BuffaloBob]

This looks like it was a bottle or jar stopper. It's made of fired clay, has no markings and is about 2-1/2" diameter and 2" high with a tapered end. It doesn't look water tight and I'm curious what it might have been used for.

 

[BuffaloBob]

A surveyors cap 100% shore.
nail.

Great! What-the-heck is a surveyors cap? How would it be used. Maybe set in concrete or something?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

My two cents worth.... it is a 'chair' for supporting steel reinforcing mesh during a concrete pour.
At 2 inches high it is spot on for the recommended minimum distance of the mesh from the concrete surface.
A modern plastic example...





Mike

Yes this could be it. For the wire mesh like you say and not rebar as pictured.

I noticed Angelo suggested this but we need proof.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Maybe for a radiant floor heat system. (Im guessing)

 

[cival war hunter 2 !]

yes it could be.Alot of those nail tops broke off.Its used for transites.

A surveyors cap 100% shore.
nail.

Great! What-the-heck is a surveyors cap? How would it be used. Maybe set in concrete or something?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

yes it could be.Alot of those nail tops broke off.Its used for transites.

A surveyors cap 100% shore.
nail.

Great! What-the-heck is a surveyors cap? How would it be used. Maybe set in concrete or something?

Yes it could be? You said you were 100 percent sure. Do you have a pic or link to support your claim? I googled "surveyors cap" and this is what i got. A plastic cap to fit on the rebar.
http://pss-ohio.com/id1.html


Could you explain how this ceramic piece would be used?

 

[cival war hunter 2 !]

That's not for transites. A pin with a blue or red ribbon.Its the marker for the property line.The cap that you found is for the corner of the property(on that pic or website that you found).I'm' 100%.

yes it could be.Allot of those nail tops broke off.Its used for transites.

A surveyors cap 100% shore.
nail.

Great! Weathercock is a surveyors cap? How would it be used. Maybe set in concrete or something?

Yes it could be? You said you were 100 percent sure. Do you have a pic or link to support your claim? I go ogled "surveyors cap" and this is what i got. A plastic cap to fit on the re bar.
http://Soho.com/id1.HTML



Could you explain how this ceramic piece would be used?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

That's not for transites. A pin with a blue or red ribbon.Its the marker for the property line.The cap that you found is for the corner of the property(on that pic or website that you found).I'm' 100%.

Yes, of course it is. But how is this unknown ceramic piece in question used with a surveyor's transit?
http://www.surveyhistory.org/the_surveyor's_basic_tools.htm

 

[cival war hunter 2 !]

Dude that's the oldest surveying tools in the world.

That's not for transit es. A pin with a blue or red ribbon.Its the marker for the property line.The cap that you found is for the corner of the property(on that pic or website that you found).I'm' 100%.

Yes, of course it is. But how is this unknown ceramic piece in question used with a surveyor's transit?
http://www.surveyhistory.org/the_surveyor's_basic_tools.HTML

 

[trikikiwi]

My two cents worth.... it is a 'chair' for supporting steel reinforcing mesh during a concrete pour.
At 2 inches high it is spot on for the recommended minimum distance of the mesh from the concrete surface.
A modern plastic example...





Mike

Yes this could be it. For the wire mesh like you say and not rebar as pictured.

I noticed Angelo suggested this but we need proof.

The picture is an altered graphic showing mesh not rebar and where does Angelo suggest anything on this thread?

Edit: Ok found it on the link PBK supplied

Mike

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Dude that's the oldest surveying tools in the world.

That's not for transit es. A pin with a blue or red ribbon.Its the marker for the property line.The cap that you found is for the corner of the property(on that pic or website that you found).I'm' 100%.

Yes, of course it is. But how is this unknown ceramic piece in question used with a surveyor's transit?
http://www.surveyhistory.org/the_surveyor's_basic_tools.HTML

wvdrummer dude, why dont you just answer my question? It appears you are talking in circles to avoid answering. Is this ceramic piece used by modern surveyors? ...and how and where is it used with a transit? You have stated that you are 100 percent sure.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

My two cents worth.... it is a 'chair' for supporting steel reinforcing mesh during a concrete pour.
At 2 inches high it is spot on for the recommended minimum distance of the mesh from the concrete surface.
A modern plastic example...





Mike

Yes this could be it. For the wire mesh like you say and not rebar as pictured.

I noticed Angelo suggested this but we need proof.

The picture is an altered graphic showing mesh not rebar and where does Angelo suggest anything on this thread?

Edit: Ok found it on the link PBK supplied

Mike

Sorry trikiwi, on my computer it looks like rebar.

Im with you on the ID, unless wvdrummer can come up with a link, or anything else to support his claim.

 

[trikikiwi]

[/quote]Sorry trikiwi, on my computer it looks like rebar.

Im with you on the ID, unless wvdrummer can come up with a link, or anything else to support his claim.
[/quote]

BigCy, no need for the sorry. I 'zapped' that pic up in size from a tiny thumbnail and I have to agree, it now looks like it could be ridged rebar, but that's only from the expanded pixilation - at least ..that's my explanation
Back to the 'Champagne Cork', I can't recall seeing that other thread, probably did, still can't think of anything more likely than a chair.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

How old are you wvdrummer?

 

[cival war hunter 2 !]

13 years old my freind.

How old are you wvdrummer?

 

[cival war hunter 2 !]

My great grandpa was a surveyor his two sons were surveyor his three sons of one witch is my dad is a surveyor. and to a happy Halloween to you.I'm not going trick or treating this year

13 years old my Friend.

How old are you drummer?

I thought so, son.

Well, I see you have been here a while. You can learn a lot here. I would, however, suggest that you do NOT say that you are 100 percent certain when you are only guessing. You waste our time having us research in the wrong direction.
Have you ever worked as a surveyors helper? Anyone in your family?
You will learn a lot more by listening to others that are more experienced.

Welcome and Happy Hunting.


ADDED: AND HAVE A HAPPY HALLOWEEN! :icon_pirate:

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

My great grandpa was a surveyor his two sons were surveyor his three sons of one witch is my dad is a surveyor. and to a happy Halloween to you.I'm not going trick or treating this year

OK thats great! Now could you please show them this picture of the unknown object in question and ask them how it is used with a transit? Then try to find a pic or link supporting your claim. You could solve a long standing mystery and be the hero.

Yea, too old for trick or treating.

 

[cival war hunter 2 !]

This is some what what you have but younger i will look for some nails that are older.
http://www.berntsen.com/GoShopping/...ashers/Nails/Magnails/tabid/1815/Default.aspx

 

[trikikiwi]

This is some what what you have but younger i will look for some nails that are older.
http://www.berntsen.com/GoShopping/...ashers/Nails/Magnails/tabid/1815/Default.aspx

It sorta doesn't look the same

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

This is some what what you have but younger i will look for some nails that are older.
http://www.berntsen.com/GoShopping/...ashers/Nails/Magnails/tabid/1815/Default.aspx

Surveyors nails need to be steel in order to find them with a metal detector.
Im sorry, drummer, I think you are wasting everyones time. I suppose it is OK to take a wild guess but you should tell us that you are just guessing next time, ...please.

This unknown object is made of fired clay..

Im starting to think it is a carboy cap/plug for dangerous chemicals perhaps.... but i am only guessing lol.

I found 2 of those in an area where there were smashed carboys, so I am assuming they are carboys stoppers.

 

[mick56]

If it is a bottle plug, it may have had a thin wrap of cork on it to seal.