What's new

Cleangold sluice

Just a observation............... To capture fine and super fine gold in a sluice you need FLAT water going across your mat ! Waves and or "busy" water disrupts the fines and they don't drop out of a suspended flow! Yep some of it will drop out but I wasn't out there for "some " of the gold!
 
Has anyone every tried or evaluated a Cleangold product to extract fine, micro size particulate gold from fine materials. View the products and papers at http://www.cleangold.com . Your ideas
For a demonstration of Cleangold's capture and cleanup capability google "Cleangold in Nome". There you can find a YouTube video with that name by Kristina Shafer. That sample pan was very rich but if you ran a less rich pan through the same process the chances are you could recover some similar sized gold from that sample.

Sidenote: I saw the Fossicker, remember him?, at a GPAA Gold Show demo the device on some salted, unclassified concentrates and then pan and recover fines and pickers...
 
Last edited:
Actually, it's a good safe time to talk about the Clean Gold sluice now since his patent ran out in 2017.
We can openly talk about it without repercussion from Mr. Plath anymore... Like Nick said, it's made of magnetic sign material but with reversed poles, so find or get flexible multipole magnetic sheet, preferably 30–60 mil thick, magnetized on one face in parallel alternating N/S stripes.
 
I’ve been doing quite a bit of research into Thomas Edison’s 1882 patent (U.S. Patent No. 263,131) for placing magnets underneath a gold sluice.
The idea was pretty ingenious, using the magnetite/black sand flowing through the sluice. The material would build up in ridges above the magnets, essentially creating its own renewable riffles, and those black-sand riffles would help catch the gold.

I’ve searched for evidence of this type of magnetic sluice actually being used during the old hydraulic-mining era—not just in California, but also looking at mining history from places such as Australia and New Zealand.
So far, I haven’t found a photograph or historical record that conclusively proves that Edison’s exact under-the-sluice design was put into regular operation at a hydraulic mine.
The closest lead I’ve found is the old Cherokee hydraulic mining operation near Oroville, California. Edison and Frank McLaughlin were involved with experiments at the Cherokee Hydraulic Mine involving the black sands and tailings from that area around 1879–1881, immediately before Edison filed his magnetic-sluice patent in June 1881.
Unfortunately, the timing couldn’t have been much worse. Hydraulic mining in California was already coming under increasing legal attack because of the enormous amount of debris being dumped into the rivers. Edison’s California mining work and the development of his magnetic sluice occurred right around the same period that injunctions and, soon afterward, major court restrictions began shutting down large-scale hydraulic mining in certain areas.
So it’s entirely possible that the hydraulic mines and their black sands helped inspire Edison’s idea, but the industry he designed it for was beginning to disappear before the invention had much opportunity to be commercially developed.
I’m still looking for the real smoking gun: an old photograph, mining report, newspaper article, engineering journal, or mine record from anywhere in the world showing magnets mounted underneath a working hydraulic-era sluice.
It doesn’t have to be Edison’s system or even connected with Edison. If anybody knows of an old hydraulic or placer operation anywhere—California, Alaska, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, China, Russia, etc.—that used magnets underneath the sluice to create magnetic black-sand riffles, I’d really like to see it. The same system has been patented in other countries from 1901 to present.
 
Aren't there naturally occurring gold and pge alloys and gold/pge bearing conglomerates that are magnetic as well?
My dad was somewhat tight being enlisted and we'd hit dumps looking for electronics to scrap for tubes in the 60s-80s so I come by my thriftiness honest.
 
One thing to keep in mind when comparing patents....the description of what the patent does, and how it does it, has no legal bearing on the patent. The legality is all based on the "Claims" in the patent. I haven't looked at the patents, but thought I'd clear that up. I'm a little surprised that the CleanGold guy was awarded a patent. To be awarded a patent the idea has to be "unobvious", "unique", and have "public value". Without fulfilling all three, a patent can't be awarded.
But the patent office makes mistakes, and patents do get overturned, if anybody cares enough to spend the time and money to do so. Mostly, in the case of small miners, there isn't enough potential profit to go to the trouble.
Jim
 
Actually, it's a good safe time to talk about the Clean Gold sluice now since his patent ran out in 2017.
We can openly talk about it without repercussion from Mr. Plath anymore... Like Nick said, it's made of magnetic sign material but with reversed poles, so find or get flexible multipole magnetic sheet, preferably 30–60 mil thick, magnetized on one face in parallel alternating N/S stripes.
Yup that’s where that magnetic viewer card comes in handy inspecting magnetic sheets.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top Bottom