COLONIAL SILVER HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

got out with Frank for a few hours.took him to one of my sites that has been pounded in the past by me,rcat & sniffy.
today i got in the cellar hole and worked the lip of the hole from inside.
it paid off in a few finds.
a barrel tap,a old fork, a broken pewter shoe buckle frame portion and what i thought was a piece of pocket watch guts at first but rubbed it and suprise it's real silver and hand etched with what looks like a pope on one side and the other side looks like it may be saint Anne or saint Anthony holding a flower.with initials SA.
i don't know how old this silver piece dates back to? but,the etching looks to be that age and it's a 1780's site.this may be a "one of a kind" medal?

 

[Michiganne]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

Very cool relic! I would guess it is supposed to depict St. Anthony as I've never seen St. Anne pictured holding lilies. Definitely a pope on the other side, due to the mitre (hat) and staff he is holding. Interesting!

Keep digging!

 

[birdman]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

The silver work reminds me of this little locket that I found about 4 years ago.

 

[49r Relics]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

Very cool religious artifact. I am anticipating someone to nail it down for you. It is possible that it was personally made as you say. I wish you the best.
Chris

thanks! i hope so too.this may have been an thin old worn 4 reale or something made into this pendent

That was very commonly done in the 17th century
http://www.smpub.com/cgi/ubb/Ultimate.cgi?

Awesome finds (both). The religous medal is handmade and I would be very surprised if another like it could be found. But nonetheless, what a mind blowing find! Congrats!

HH, mark

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

Very cool religious artifact. I am anticipating someone to nail it down for you. It is possible that it was personally made as you say. I wish you the best.
Chris

thanks! i hope so too.this may have been an thin old worn 4 reale or something made into this pendent

That was very commonly done in the 17th century
http://www.smpub.com/cgi/ubb/Ultimate.cgi?

Awesome finds (both). The religous medal is handmade and I would be very surprised if another like it could be found. But nonetheless, what a mind blowing find! Congrats!

HH, mark

nice forum thanks for the link.i just may have to join and post this to see what kind of replies i get.
thanks again!
dave

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

Very cool religious artifact. I am anticipating someone to nail it down for you. It is possible that it was personally made as you say. I wish you the best.
Chris

thanks! i hope so too.this may have been an thin old worn 4 reale or something made into this pendent

That was very commonly done in the 17th century
http://www.smpub.com/cgi/ubb/Ultimate.cgi?

Awesome finds (both). The religous medal is handmade and I would be very surprised if another like it could be found. But nonetheless, what a mind blowing find! Congrats!

HH, mark

nice forum thanks for the link.i just may have to join and post this to see what kind of replies i get.
thanks again!
dave

Yes you should.

This also would be a good start to a theme thread on the best finds.... best/most interesting silver find that is not a coin. (altered coins ok)

 

[liftloop]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

SWEAT FIND!

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

It is certainly an interesting piece, and is most likely a unique hand made item which will make it nearly impossible to identify.

In my opinion, the hole looks like it was machine drilled, which may make it a bit more modern. On all of my early pieces with holes, they are rough and uneven.

Still, it is a beautiful piece. You may want to consider getting a silver chain and wearing it!

 

[Brian(upstateNY-Central Fla.)]

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beautiful finds there

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

In my opinion, the hole looks like it was machine drilled, which may make it a bit more modern. On all of my early pieces with holes, they are rough and uneven.

Your's are probably punched, not drilled, and I assume early drilling would be quite a bit cleaner, but something I don't know much about.

 

[steelheadwill]

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Super Finds!
A handmade icon from a Faithful Colonist, Amazing.
Thanks for sharing this one! Got my vote, HH, Herbie.

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

In my opinion, the hole looks like it was machine drilled, which may make it a bit more modern. On all of my early pieces with holes, they are rough and uneven.

Your's are probably punched, not drilled, and I assume early drilling would be quite a bit cleaner, but something I don't know much about.

Excellent point!

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

In my opinion, the hole looks like it was machine drilled, which may make it a bit more modern. On all of my early pieces with holes, they are rough and uneven.

Your's are probably punched, not drilled, and I assume early drilling would be quite a bit cleaner, but something I don't know much about.

Excellent point!

I think the way to get more info. on that topic would be to research early buttons that have drilled shanks. They go back to at least the 1600s and some are done quite well, but there is still a crudeness about them compared to a more modern drill hole.

For the record my gut tells me that medal does date into the 1800s but I have absolutely nothing to back that up. Whether it's late 1700s, or 1800s, it's still good.

 

[BuckleBoy]

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That's gotta be a 1700s find. The thin silver it's made from looks like most of the silver from that period--from trade silver to changepurse clasps.

One hell of a find. And I am banner-nominating it.


Cheers,


Buckles

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

That's gotta be a 1700s find. The thin silver it's made from looks like most of the silver from that period--from trade silver to changepurse clasps.

One hell of a find. And I am banner-nominating it.


Cheers,


Buckles

how many votes does it take to get up there anyways?just curious? would be cool if it makes it! thanks man!

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

It is certainly an interesting piece, and is most likely a unique hand made item which will make it nearly impossible to identify.

In my opinion, the hole looks like it was machine drilled, which may make it a bit more modern. On all of my early pieces with holes, they are rough and uneven.

Still, it is a beautiful piece. You may want to consider getting a silver chain and wearing it!

thanks neil for your reply.
i tried to get some close-ups of the hole.it's so thin and wondering if it could have been punched but because it obviously was worn from a chain and now has a rounded appearance due to wear?I would think if machine drilled..it wouldn't have that pushed out rim on backside?it would be a clean cut no? I'm no expert but just curious.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

Does look like quite a bit of metal, so punched makes sense. I think we're just used to the jagged holes made with square nails. I wish there was more to it, because I know someone who collects such items, but I don't really think he could offer anything different than the rest of us, just another guess.

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

Does look like quite a bit of metal, so punched makes sense. I think we're just used to the jagged holes made with square nails. I wish there was more to it, because I know someone who collects such items, but I don't really think he could offer anything different than the rest of us, just another guess.

if it's worth a shot maybe you can ask him.it would be nice to be able to date this if possible.
i appreciate your responses IP and everyone else's so far

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

Does look like quite a bit of metal, so punched makes sense. I think we're just used to the jagged holes made with square nails. I wish there was more to it, because I know someone who collects such items, but I don't really think he could offer anything different than the rest of us, just another guess.

if it's worth a shot maybe you can ask him.it would be nice to be able to date this if possible.
i appreciate your responses IP and everyone else's so far

And the other reason I don't know if I should send it is because he would probably want to buy it.

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

Does look like quite a bit of metal, so punched makes sense. I think we're just used to the jagged holes made with square nails. I wish there was more to it, because I know someone who collects such items, but I don't really think he could offer anything different than the rest of us, just another guess.

if it's worth a shot maybe you can ask him.it would be nice to be able to date this if possible.
i appreciate your responses IP and everyone else's so far

And the other reason I don't know if I should send it is because he would probably want to buy it.

hey he could make me an offer! this way i'll have some kinda value on it and for the record?NOT SELLIN

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: COLONIAL HAND MADE CATHOLIC MEDAL?

Does look like quite a bit of metal, so punched makes sense. I think we're just used to the jagged holes made with square nails. I wish there was more to it, because I know someone who collects such items, but I don't really think he could offer anything different than the rest of us, just another guess.

if it's worth a shot maybe you can ask him.it would be nice to be able to date this if possible.
i appreciate your responses IP and everyone else's so far

And the other reason I don't know if I should send it is because he would probably want to buy it.

hey he could make me an offer! this way i'll have some kinda value on it and for the record?NOT SELLIN

Well I'm pretty sure he could easily afford to offer you an offer you couldn't refuse, but I'm sure he wouldn't... and I didn't think you would sell it. I certainly wouldn't.

I think your find would be as interesting to someone as a good piece of trade silver so a few hundred wouldn't surprise me.