Desert Gold

I will quit posting photo's from now on, due to the extreme tremors I have. I did my best

John don't stop taking and posting photos on my account as OV and Digger has given you some great advice. Another thing you can do to help is to increase your shutter speed. By all the expensive toys you have I suspect your carrying around an expensive camera. Put the camera in shutter priority around 500th of a second. Then the camera will select the the F stop "aperture" of which is the amount of light the lens will allow to hit the film, chip. etc. The higher the F stop F/1.2 - F/32 number the greater the depth of field, more of the image further from the lens is in focus. There is another trick to use and its called Hyperfocal Distance.

One of the most important things to understand when taking landscape photographs is how depth of field works, and how you can make use of it to make better images. It is usual to include foreground details in the shot, as this helps to balance the whole image, and helps to lead the viewer's eye into the image, how do you ensure that both the foreground objects and the distant landscape are in focus?

When you focus at a particular point in the image, other objects some distance in front of and behind the subject will also be in focus. The range of these in-focus objects either side of the focal point is called the depth of field. Exactly how far in front and behind your subject will remain in focus can be controlled by altering the F-stop setting of your lens. You really want to have as much of the scene in focus as possible, so the obvious choice is to use a very small aperture setting to maximise depth of field. But, maximising the depth of field won't ensure that your entire scene is in focus. You need to know exactly where to focus your lens. If you select a point of focus too close , the foreground and middle-scene will be covered by the depth of field, but distant objects will be blurred.

As the depth of field extends both in front and behind the focal point, ( 1/3 in front of focal point, and 2/3 behind ) the solution is to use manual focus, and to focus on a point somewhere between the foreground and the distance, so that the extreme distance (effectively infinity) is contained in the "sharp zone", the closest object in your frame is at the nearest end, and everything in the frame is in focus. This point, at which the depth of field is maximized within the field of view, is known as the hyperfocal distance. The amount of distance that appears in acceptable focus will start at halfway from this point to effective infinity.
Calculating exactly where this hyperfocal point exists, relies on a mathematical equation, as per example:


H = fl * fl / Ac+ fl

In this formula, H is the hyperfocal distance (measured in millimetres), fl is the focal length of the lens (also in millimetres), A is the f-stop number of the aperture, and c is the diameter of the "circle of confusion". In digital crop DSLR’s the accepted value of c is approximately 0.020mm, since that results in a relatively sharp image on the sensor; so for example with a 18mm lens at an aperture of f22, the hyperfocal distance, the point at which depth of field is optimised, is:

H = 18*18
22*0.02 + 18 = 754.36mm

Or 2 feet- 6 inches . As you can see, setting your camera on infinity means that you are missing out on a lot of potential foreground
detail. It also shows that you don't really need to use the absolute smallest aperture setting. Using the same 18mm lens at a wider aperture setting of f11 still gives a hyperfocal distance of 1500mm (approximately 5 Feet, giving a depth of field from 750mm ( 2 feet six inches to infinity), and will produce better image quality, due to eliminating diffraction problems that using F 22 would bring.
 

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why is this so small and dark now?

HI John, it got darker as I reduced the exposure by about a
stop, and then did my best to sharpen and highlight some
of the features in the pic.

FWIW, I would have shot that pic using (A), or Aperture
Priority, however Az's suggestion would work great as well.
When I'm just taking .jpg shots of assorted landscapes
I'll set the camera to around f/8, and then let the camera
make the shutter speed choice.

The pic got smaller as I reduced it to 1000 pixels on the
long side. At the larger size it was the pixels spread so far
that more focus was lost.

I must need a "time out" as everyone seems to be awful testy today.
 

Sorry, I have a form of parkinson's and it's hard to hold the camera steady even on a tripod... I have been thinking of quit taking photos because it frustrates me to no end.

Don't know if you use a walking stick when you're out and about in the desert, but I'll bet a smart guy could develop a camera adapter that could easily attach to a walking stick, or even just a plain 'ole stick laying out in the desert, that would serve to steady a shaky camera. :icon_scratch:
 

whats in a picture that you can't see. That question.

The question was.....



John_Arizona*said:Today*08:12 PM

Everyone... What Do You See Here... Need Your Input





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Thanks. I just have one of those el cheapo 3 meg cameras and taking shots too far away lol.... I'm not camera literate on f-stops etc. I'm in a hurry most of the time and just point n shot n split. I'm too much in a dang hurry to get buckets of dirt back to my truck lol

That explains it. Its all good. Heck most of my photos I take is with my cellphone as it 12 megapixels and does an okay job for posting on the net, but I have the digital gear but its to big and bulky to carry around. I have a Olympus C-5050Z and although its only 5 megapixels but has pro features with its fast f1.8 Aspherical Glass Super Bright lens, its one of the best digital cameras I have ever owned and taken pictures with. Back in 2002 I had paid $700.00. You can pick up one of these outstanding cameras for under $70.00 on eBay in great shape. In fact I may buy another. Perfect size to put in the backpack. DP Review of the Olympus C-5050Z

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Too much tech talk on the camera earlier.

I don't know a lot about cameras but I know how to push the button. The f-stop is for the aperture. That's the dew hickey in the lens. It let's in more light or less depending where you have it set. Also the more you have it open the less your background will be in focus. Open all the way it'll be blurred. Turn it too the smallest opening and the background will be in focus. Nice and sharp. If I remember right f-22 is the smallest opening and f-4 or f-2 is the biggest opening. Hope that helps.

What you really need is a photographer. Getting to take pictures of all that gold you dig up should be enough pay. lol

I would do it but your in Phx and I'm in Tucson.
 

I have this thought for the Tnet people in Arizona.

I was thinking of starting a Prospecting Club...

We can go out prospecting with detectors, go panning, I could teach anyone thats interested in spanish mining & symbology, we can go hiking, bbq'ing, have a beer, boating, fishing, we can meet once a month somewhere... you name it.

I have a few friends that may be interested as well. Rick in California and Casca in New Mexico.

Drop me a line at https://www.facebook.com/arizona.desert.gold or email me at jf3y7n5@gmail.com

Great idea! Thanks John! Now I'm going to have move back to Phx! Want to help me move?
 

This is the "Gold Prospecting" thread. Gold prospecting is searching for "New" gold deposits.

Gold prospecting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is a thread here at Tnet for signs & symbols. Follow this sign/symbol: Treasure Marks/Signs

Take a look there are numerous posts where members actually explain things instead of just posting blurry pics without explanation.
 

What is your problem man? John isn't doing anything wrong. Despite his blurry pictures he had provided 100x more info about his experience and claims than you have. Back off man, you are just causing drama.
 

I dont see you telling ja to back off when he called me names such as broad! I also do not like his statements that I am less respectable than a lady simply because I asked simple questions that he never answered.

In addition, there is a place elsewhere to discuss signs and symbols. You would think that such an expert on following signs and symbols could find the proper place to post about signs and symbols.
 

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I along with many are interested in what John is offering. Maybe you could go over to the symbols thread and we will stay here and have an enjoyable thread.
GM
 

I don't know a lot about cameras but I know how to push the button. The f-stop is for the aperture. That's the dew hickey in the lens. It let's in more light or less depending where you have it set. Also the more you have it open the less your background will be in focus. Open all the way it'll be blurred. Turn it too the smallest opening and the background will be in focus. Nice and sharp. If I remember right f-22 is the smallest opening and f-4 or f-2 is the biggest opening. Hope that helps.

Thanks... You took my first paragraph and mumbled it around to basically say the same thing. Dizzydigger and I are trying to help John with his photography to have a better understanding on getting everything in foreground and background in focus so he can continue his lessons with photos that are in focus. Don't think John wants someone tagging along into his gold producing area.

John you may want to look at a monopod / walking stick with ball head camera mount. They are compact and very lite, aluminum or carbon fiber. Some of these monopods have pop out three legged stand but I would be careful with them as the monopod would be to top heavy and camera and pod may fall over in a gust of wind. Personally I would buy a lightweight tripod and outfit it with a small ball head camera mount. The last photo is a convertible tripod with ball head. It can be a tripod or a monopod.

Monopod.webp Monopod with legs.webp BAllhead.webp Tri mono.webp
 

Thanks... You took my first paragraph and mumbled it around to basically say the same thing. Dizzydigger and I are trying to help John with his photography to have a better understanding on getting everything in foreground and background in focus so he can continue his lessons with photos that are in focus. Don't think John wants someone tagging along into his gold producing area.

John you may want to look at a monopod / walking stick with ball head camera mount. They are compact and very lite, aluminum or carbon fiber. Some of these monopods have pop out three legged stand but I would be careful with them as the monopod would be to top heavy and camera and pod may fall over in a gust of wind. Personally I would buy a lightweight tripod and outfit it with a small ball head camera mount. The last photo is a convertible tripod with ball head. It can be a tripod or a monopod.

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Your welcome! Mumbled? No. You were getting all technical and long and drawn out. I just shortened it and made it easier to understand.

Chlsbrns,

This isn't about signs and symbols, it's about gold prospecting. He's talking about signs and symbols which is what got him to the old Spanish mine. He's just throwing in the S&S to help us so that we can use that information to possibly find our own Spanish mine.
 

To explain Hyperfocal Distance gets technical. Your explanation on Deep of Field was much longer than mine. To understand Hyperfocal Distance gets a little technical and needs to be explained in detail. Sorry it went over your head but others may find it useful in improving and getting the maximum in focus images out to infinity.

Nope I understand it just trying to make sure he does.
 

Your welcome! Mumbled? No. You were getting all technical and long and drawn out. I just shortened it and made it easier to understand.

Put the camera in shutter priority around 500th of a second. Then the camera will select the the F stop "aperture" of which is the amount of light the lens will allow to hit the film, chip. etc. The higher the F stop F/1.2 - F/32 number the greater the depth of field, more of the image further from the lens is in focus.

The f-stop is for the aperture. That's the dew hickey in the lens. It let's in more light or less depending where you have it set. Also the more you have it open the less your background will be in focus. Open all the way it'll be blurred. Turn it too the smallest opening and the background will be in focus. Nice and sharp. If I remember right f-22 is the smallest opening and f-4 or f-2 is the biggest opening.

To explain Hyperfocal Distance gets technical. Your explanation on Deep of Field was much longer than mine. To understand Hyperfocal Distance gets a little technical and needs to be explained in detail. Sorry it went over your head but others may find it useful in improving and getting the maximum in focus images out to infinity with Hyperfocal Distance.

Deep of Field and Hyperfocal Distance are two totally different avenues of reaching focus with one method out to infinity the other not.
 

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Clay or JeromeAz, I remember you from Jog post on building a trommel for a friend. You were all fired up then as you are now. Did you ever build your trommel that you talked about? If you did I like to see the results...
 

Chlsbrns,

This isn't about signs and symbols, it's about gold prospecting. He's talking about signs and symbols which is what got him to the old Spanish mine. He's just throwing in the S&S to help us so that we can use that information to possibly find our own Spanish mine.

You are in Jerome, Az? I'll check my USGS files and pm you a rich deposit if there are any close by. I don't know the status... Private property, claimed, not allowed to mine, ect. But there will be gold!

I have locations for every gold bearing State. There are a lot of locations in NC, SC, VA & GA on private property. I havent had any problems gaining access. The USGS files have actually shown locations with gold right here in NJ!
 

Clay or JeromeAz, I remember you from Jog post on building a trommel for a friend. You were all fired up then as you are now. Did you ever build your trommel that you talked about? If you did I like to see the results...

No its on hold for now. I was waiting to pay off my truck. Which is paid off now but then my front drive shaft didn't want to turn anymore so it broke my transfer case in half. Then my tranny went out. Then a big doctor bill. One thing after another. One day I'll build it.
 

No its on hold for now. I was waiting to pay off my truck. Which is paid off now but then my front drive shaft didn't want to turn anymore so it broke my transfer case in half. Then my tranny went out. Then a big doctor bill. One thing after another. One day I'll build it.

Get rid of the Dodge. Junk through and through. Had nothing but issues with my Dodge. Now I am a happy camper with my Tundra.
 

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