Desert Gold

[KiddoTheMiner]

im assuming that's gold bearing quartz, and it looks good, at least ya got out

 

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[chlsbrns]

John Az .. do you have any idea of what food and supplies these old spanish hunters carried with them on long trips into barren lands to survive for the long extened trips ?
Dried figs nuts ?

I know they ate prickly pear and guayule. Probably lizards and snakes too! They didn't carry these in they are native to the area.

They also got food from the natives which eventually led to the Spaniards becoming servants/slaves.

 

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[chlsbrns]

What's Really Here (to the trained eye)

if you ever notice j, f, 3, y, 7, n, 5, l, L. and snake heads, priests, crosses/x, diamond & triangle shapes, and animals carved in rock/stone. you are on the au trail and should be nearby and/or standing on it. the au is also hidden on purpose amongst normal vegetation and rock (hidden in plain sight)d.

Spanish Symbols:

http://thegreatlosttreasure.info/sign2t.gif

I see a lot of symbols and their meanings but can't find any info on j, f, 3, y, 7, n, 5, l, L. Can you direct me to a web page with info on j, f, 3, y, 7, n, 5, l, L? Or are those letters/numbers/symbols something that you discovered on your own?

I'm getting interested in this symbol stuff & want to learn even if I never get a chance to try it on my own.

 

[chriseneim]

Symbols always lead you to areas where there's au, but you need to learn the definitives what codes lead to where. I'm not going to give a crash course in it because if people want to learn it, they will. That would be like people wanting to learn to fly a helicopter. They don't want to learn to land or take off, but they want to fly around in the air. There is no shortcuts. There are no shortcuts in life either. Like me for instance. I was always wondering what was over the next hill and the next hill, etc etc For 30 years I have been climbing over all the hills, scouring the caves, creeks, wash's, everywhere and not just in Arizona. It doesn't just happen, things just don't fall in your lap... you have to work for it. Trial and error and never ever give up. I know where many places are like this, I thought I would show people one of them. If they cannot handle the reality of gold just being there, or they didn't want to get in that Palo Verde tree with all the snakes just to see what was hiding at the base or how many wild animals you had to deal with to get out of there and if you got bit by a snake... your so damned far away from everything... hundreds of miles. You would just die there, because your out for the adventure and the love of nature. The joy of what you like to do... so many people want to argue gold isn't there or gold isn't like this. How do they know? You can't come to the conclusion that this does not exist. It does if you keep looking, the problem with today... too many people don't want to leave their nice cozy a/c home. Oh it's too hot or it's this or that. Everyone has an excuse not to do something or it just does not exist according to their them. There are people that talk about doing things and then there's people that just do them. The people that find actual gold are not the type that sit at home, arguing about it, isn't in their nature, no isn't in their vocabulary, nothing negative is in their life. The positive cannot stand negative people. Positive people went to the moon, positive people built the automobile, positive people this and that. Negative people start wars, fight, cause disarray to everything. The word Quit is not ever in the Positive person mind. Give Up or it's too hard, is in the negative persons mind. People need to do themselves a favor, they need to get disgruntled, argumentative, negative people out of their lives... if they want to succeed at anything. The people that can't accept reality or change always try to hold the positive back and try to brainwash them to give up or that it is not there.

that's the damn truth. Nicely said john. It's all these guys on here that have nothing but negative stuff to say or don't even have a clue or knowledge about the topic that they are claiming to know all about. I can't stand tnet anymore because of people who have not posted a single thread or even a pic of what the claim they find try and post negative **** on a positive thread. Maybe they should talk face to face instead of talking **** on there computer. You da man john keep posting for us positive peril who enjoy it. Aloha

 

[chriseneim]

John, There are those of us that find this thread to be totally unbelievable, but are fascinated with the things you are writing. I can't wait until the next episode.

you must of been a little spoiled brat that never learned how to show respect. Beat it kook

 

[pacog]

Pic is working now!

 

[Rawhide]

in the vicinity of this, I found a few old foundations and a mission bell down in a hole ravaged by snakes... I will return when it is cooler to get a better photo.

You have some small critters crawling, I have sen this before. Nice Spot.

 

[Rawhide]

No charge! Free symbol info

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FecIXZ1I1BI/Tfcx6hk7JxI/AAAAAAAAGLQ/8MedXbnOSXE/s1600/treasure+turtles.jpg

These signs seem to fit. May I use them if I should post pictures of what john is trying to say.

John should I post a few pictures?

I dont post pics anymore as Im in it for the fun and folks just want to argue. But to save the thread, I can throw some hard earned knowledge at you. John has helped me look at my sites in a different light. He has combined geology with signs and hard work and knows what he has. This is johns post and I wont hi jack it with my pictures, but if you require proof, maybe a picture will do. I can only take you so far. As there is dangers and I have failed to over come them enough to get in the hole. I like to call it common sense. But treasure is for the brave.

John I have a question and hope its not too trivial. Why did they bury gold? This should cut thrugh some of the bs going on here with disbelievers. I dont blame john if he dont answer on this one.

 

[Rawhide]

maybe someday we'll go there... I could use a hand

I look forward to it. Its funny how you can have the sames signs hundreds of miles away. I once suspected a good friend of posting pictures of a site I had. I did not see a turtle of a lazy 8 in your picture. Must be a cache of a different size or shape.

 

[Rawhide]

I have always said there is another trail, a hidden trail. I dont understand what I am finding. What catches my eye is the difference in stones. Texture, what they are made up of. My current question is why do they smooth the turtle marker down, or why half bury the heart and put a bunch of drill holes in it. Lastly where does a griffin fit into a Spanish site? Besides the looking for fault lines and folds in the hillsides. My mind may be playing tricks on me but there is hidden art amongst all the signs. This may be the trail john refers too about the owner hiding a little for himself. The hieroglyphs also pre date some sites. But again someone is going use the "P" word.

 

[Rawhide]

While probing a hole one day with my brother reality set in when a simple mis step lead to my brother face planting a very sharp rock. Safety glasses work. It was a very log walk back to the truck to get him to the ER. I had been there a dozen times and somehow missed the slick spot.

I didnt realized he had been impaled as the blood took a while to start. I was laughing my butt off till I realized he was hurt. I think there is a curse on these gold caches. I would seek a shaman before you go.

 

[Rawhide]

Back to the thread, I use plants also. Certain moss will leach up what is in the rocks. This was some flowers in one spot, notice the small rocks, there was only one vein of red granite in the area. This is from deep in the ground.The whole area was clean as a kitchen floor. So why place tailing here, away from the mine. Most likely a work area I suspect.

I study the rocks, even the little ones. Signs just means your close to a area. Could be water, could be a camp.

 

[Rawhide]

Ok I love sharing pictures so this is the last one before I get back to the lazy 8. Here is a horse, a lion, a owl, and a turtle if you have the eye for such things. They are looking in the four cardinal directions.

There are spots you need to stand to see what your supposed to see. This site is different from the site Im about to show. Just a good example of how to see the rocks. Most folks pictures are terrible, I cant stand to look at them. But if you have the right spot, they are beautiful.

If I say something on here, I can back it up. I like what john is putting out, it may not be your cup of tea. Lets get to the lazy 8.

 

[gold tramp]

This is supposed to be a gold prospecting forum, not treasure tales.
Science not science fiction.

from the point of view of a prospector the peyote crop must be good over in AZ.................

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The great gaunaco breath says your full of shhhhh and need to move on.

 

[Rawhide]

Ok in the first pic you should look for the turtle with no legs. On the neck of the turtle is a lazy 8. The turtles head is pointing to a small hidden hole. The area is full of rattle snakes, but just little ones. Green Mojaves I believe. This sign you have to line up the rocks as the turtle is spread out over 50 yards or so.



There is always two signs. Here is the other lazy 8. It is in the form of two round bells with a line through them. They are hidden in the shadow of a rock. They bells are separated as SS said before indicating a distance. The line through them indicates two treasures I believe and indicates a direction.

This was a very rough trek. I did not come away uninjured. You will see a lot of sign here. Anyone got a gpr?

 

[Rawhide]

John on the horse pic you were correct as I did find a hidden cave and was in the process removing rocks. I ran a drill down a few feet after we cleared a level spot to stand and wood came back up at us. The smooth turtle was part of this and he had a large heart on his back and a shadow of a man on his side. I suspect the large heart pointed to a map that lead to the cave.

 

[Mad Machinist]

Respect

Respect the Native American, their ancestors, their religion, their way of life and places they hold sacred.

This lands belonged to them before you arrived, and this land will belong to them after you left.

You are merely visiting this land... show respect for Mother Earth and Father Sky.

Respect Yourselves

Thank you for showing respect to my ancestors, brother. I may only be part Native American, but they are still my ancestors.

 

[goldenmojo]

John Thanks for this thread and the hard work that was involved in acquiring the knowledge you are sharing . I am fascinated to no end. I hope some day to make it to AZ and prospect but until that time I am soaking up all I can. As soon as I can formulate some intelligent questions on the subject I will ask them. Thanks again.

GM

 

[Rawhide]

I love it john, my problem I dont work the flat areas usually.

 

[chlsbrns]

This would be a good place for you to start first, then if you need help... I will help you (only if you want help). I'am willing to do that much!!

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/treasure-marks-signs/129235-treasure-signs-symbols-101-a.html

Spanish Symbols:

http://thegreatlosttreasure.info/sign2t.gif

I see a lot of symbols and their meanings but can't find any info on j, f, 3, y, 7, n, 5, l, L. Can you direct me to a web page with info on j, f, 3, y, 7, n, 5, l, L? Or are those letters/numbers/symbols something that you discovered on your own?

I'm getting interested in this symbol stuff & want to learn even if I never get a chance to try it on my own.

I looked at the link that you posted. Didn't see anything about j, f, 3, y, 7, n, 5, l, L.

Itt would be nice if you just answered the original question instead of misdirecting to a post that doesn't answer the question that was asked.

Can you direct me to a web page with info on j, f, 3, y, 7, n, 5, l, L? Or are those letters/numbers/symbols something that you discovered on your own?

 

[chlsbrns]

this is a test for the one that became the self-proclaimed insta-expert on code today

show me the code here: symbols, letters and numbers.

where are they at, how many, why and who put them there.

which direction are the codes going, what's at the end.

also, put in the diagram(s) that is hidden here.

which way is north.

what is going on at this specific place

what shows up a dawn, mid afternoon and dusk.

I expect a report with the photo.

upload it into photoshop if you have too.

don't alter the color, keep it original as it is here.

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I'll make it easier with this photo.

download it, then re-upload it back here.

I Give You One Week From Right Now: 07/09/14

Upload It No Later Than: 09/15/14

I didn't see where anyone except JA claimed to be an expert but I'll take a shot at this using logic!

There is no code in the pic that could be used to find anything as wind, rain, wildlife, erosion and other things have altered, moved and will continue to change what is shown in the picture.

Did I win anything?

This code stuff would take an awful lot of time, would more than likely lead you to someones claim, private property or a wilderness area where mining is not allowed. I prefer the time tested, proven way. Research, sample and use the USGS files. The USGS samples soils & waterways in every State. They show you where there is gold and in what quantity. Its a whole lot easier and more profitable than looking for symbols that move and would lead you to ancient scraps left behind or cause you to wander aimlessly.