discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrLs

[EddieR]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

Look, all this arguing and name calling isn't getting anything accomplished except creating hard feelings.

How about a truce?

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

Look, all this arguing and name calling isn't getting anything accomplished except creating hard feelings.

How about a truce?

OK.

 

[pronghorn]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

~EE~

You claim that LRLs work. You defend them, and the people who make and sell them. And you insult anyone who proves that they can't, and don't, work.

You claim that LRLs work.

It is not a claim but a real fact that some LRL’s Made for Treasure Hunting will find Metal.

You defend them

open this forum to the discussion of said devices…That is what we are doing

You defend them, and the people who make and sell them

If telling people how to be good consumers when looking for information about these products then we are guilty of defending them. We have ask for a list of the units that you claim are fraudulent and the only answer you can give us “they all are”..We know that is not correct.

And you insult anyone who proves that they can't, and don't, work.

If questioning The facts in your post are insulting to you so be it. Discussing LRL’s is not a crime..art

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

SIGH apparently no one wishes to learn, so be it. The old saying that you can lead a camel to water,
but you cannot make him drink is still valid..


Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

SIGH apparently no one wishes to learn, so be it. The old saying that you can lead a camel to water,
but you cannot make him drink is still valid..

Don Jose de La Mancha

You forgot to mention that sometimes he takes a dump in the water hole.

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

I propose that any Theory would have to address Consciousness and Cognition.....

Are you talking about any theory whatsoever, anywhere, about anything? Or are you referring to the topic title, "...various possible theories that may be applicable to LRLs"?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

K EE where do you begin ? Obviously with basic matter such as we know or consider it. Judy has made a good start.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

~EE~

You forgot to mention that sometimes he takes a dump in the water hole.

Are you talking about any theory whatsoever, anywhere, about anything? Or are you referring to the topic title, "...various possible theories that may be applicable to LRLs"?

Gee EE...How about putting one of your theories on this board?

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

~EE~

You forgot to mention that sometimes he takes a dump in the water hole.

Are you talking about any theory whatsoever, anywhere, about anything? Or are you referring to the topic title, "...various possible theories that may be applicable to LRLs"?

Gee EE...How about putting one of your theories on this board?

Well, Art, a couple of people wanted to define what the word "theory" would mean when used in regards to science and the topics of the LRL Section---which I agree is a good idea, so we can all at least understand what each other are saying.

However, some didn't like any of the scientific definitions offered, and professed that the word had many different meanings and therefore no specific meaning. This outlook will lead only to misunderstandings, and maybe that is the purpose of some.

When you agree to one definition of the word "theory," as being used here in the topic title, only then could anyone possibly offer one, right?

Or I could cope with two definitions, one being "scientific theory," and the other being "layman theory," the latter meaning "idea, guess, hunch, gut feeling, vision, or whatever else suggests having thoughts about something which does not yet exist, and which thoughts were not scientifically derived."

Until everyone can agree to definitions, it will be like everyone is speaking different languages---good luck with anything like that! Of course, the insincere will prefer no definitions, because confusion is their mainstay.

Which do you prefer?

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

K EE where do you begin ? Obviously with basic matter such as we know or consider it. Judy has made a good start.

Don Jose de La Mancha

If you check her reference link, the first sentence is, "At this stage in the study of consciousness, any 'theory' is pure speculation."

How is that setting a solid foundation for any real discussion, other than one of just more BS and confusion?

Besides, there are already satisfactory definitions for "PSI abilities." Or, if you would like to specify one in particular, I say go ahead---it's your topic.

And, since you answered for your girl, I still don't have an answer to my question, which is needed to qualify her statement.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

~Art~

Reply To This Topic #408 Posted Today at 02:54:37 PM
Gee EE...How about putting one of your theories on this board?

~EE~

Well, Art, a couple of people wanted to define what the word "theory" would mean when used in regards to science and the topics of the LRL Section---which I agree is a good idea, so we can all at least understand what each other are saying.

However, some didn't like any of the scientific definitions offered, and professed that the word had many different meanings and therefore no specific meaning. This outlook will lead only to misunderstandings, and maybe that is the purpose of some.

When you agree to one definition of the word "theory," as being used here in the topic title, only then could anyone possibly offer one, right?

Or I could cope with two definitions, one being "scientific theory," and the other being "layman theory," the latter meaning "idea, guess, hunch, gut feeling, vision, or whatever else suggests having thoughts about something which does not yet exist, and which thoughts were not scientifically derived."

Until everyone can agree to definitions, it will be like everyone is speaking different languages---good luck with anything like that! Of course, the insincere will prefer no definitions, because confusion is their mainstay.

Which do you prefer?

My question was very simple..It is not good to write long duck and dodge answers...Just write duck and dodge and be done with it...Art

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

~Art~

Reply To This Topic #408 Posted Today at 02:54:37 PM
Gee EE...How about putting one of your theories on this board?

~EE~

Well, Art, a couple of people wanted to define what the word "theory" would mean when used in regards to science and the topics of the LRL Section---which I agree is a good idea, so we can all at least understand what each other are saying.

However, some didn't like any of the scientific definitions offered, and professed that the word had many different meanings and therefore no specific meaning. This outlook will lead only to misunderstandings, and maybe that is the purpose of some.

When you agree to one definition of the word "theory," as being used here in the topic title, only then could anyone possibly offer one, right?

Or I could cope with two definitions, one being "scientific theory," and the other being "layman theory," the latter meaning "idea, guess, hunch, gut feeling, vision, or whatever else suggests having thoughts about something which does not yet exist, and which thoughts were not scientifically derived."

Until everyone can agree to definitions, it will be like everyone is speaking different languages---good luck with anything like that! Of course, the insincere will prefer no definitions, because confusion is their mainstay.

Which do you prefer?

My question was very simple..It is not good to write long duck and dodge answers...Just write duck and dodge and be done with it...Art

Art---

Sorry if I no longer respond to your posts, but as you have demonstrated a total lack of understanding of the essence of communication, and since your posts exhibit nothing better than absolute discontinuity with both the thread topic and previous posts, there is no way to properly respond to your nonsense.

Reading your posts has become just a waste of time.

You are on "Ignore" (again).

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

Big J---

I propose that any Theory would have to address Consciousness and Cognition.....

Are you talking about any theory whatsoever, anywhere, about anything? Or are you referring to the topic title, "...various possible theories that may be applicable to LRLs"?

Is this another question that can't be answered?

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

Obviously not, by someone with poor cognitive skills.

But just for you, (I am not biased toward those of lesser mental capacity and/or logic), the fact it was posted in a topic titled " discussion on the various theories that may be applicable to LrL's "....and shoulda been a no-brainer....is a very good indicator as to it's intended subject matter.

There now.

All better, Darling?

Ah, from the "learned one" who was recently whining about the LRL section becoming nothing but insults. Hypercritical, as usual. When you can't answer a question intelligently, you resort to preadolescence.

There is a very good reason I asked that question. If you were referring to all theories about anything, I don't see any particular reason why they would have to address Consciousness and Cognition, because there are lot's of scientific theories which are considered valid, which don't. In fact, I ask you to list any which do?

On the other hand, if you are referring only to theories about LRLs, then you are artificially inserting a hidden assumption about LRLs, which you have not supported with evidence.

Surely, with your esteemed amount of higher education, you would know that, right?



So, now, which is it?

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

Of course I am, Darling. How very astute of you.

One cannot form a hypothesis without first making an assumption, can one?



Patience, Grasshopper.

A scientific hypothesis is based on established laws of science, and accepted theories which have been tested and shown to be accurate and withstood the rigors of repetition by other scientists.

An assumption is a false premise, and a fallacy of logic. Any so-called "theory" that you might come up with, based on falsehoods, would be less than useless.


Why is it that an educated wench such as yourself doesn't know all that already?

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

I would like to ask only one question to see if the scholars on here can answer.

My house is over three thousand, seven hundred and a few other miles from the North Pole or magnetic North Pole. Why do you doubt dowsing but yet pull out a compass and you say that small piece of metal picks up the North Pole over 3,700 miles away. Yet you say that someone dowsing can not pick up gold or silver from a few miles or even several feet away? Just curious.

Franklin---

First, a compass does not respond to "the North Pole," it is aligning itself with the magnetic lines of flux present wherever your compass is. So there is no distance involved.

As I have said many, many times before, I have no specific reason to doubt that somebody somewhere can locate stuff while dowsing, and maybe even do it on a reliable basis. Although I have never seen it actually happen.

Yet the resident wench apparently cannot read, or has severe memory problems, and would rather post childish insults than actual facts. How she intends to engage in any kind of sincere discussion like that, is beyone me. Actually, I thing she is just posting as a confusion factor. We'll see.

I might add that, while I'm not interested in the dowsing section at this time, I have seen those who profess dowsing abilities here in the LRL section, post stories of success while refusing to prove any of their claims, and at the same time responding only with insults. To me, that smells of con artist.

I can only recommend that you judge for yourself.

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

Of course I am, Darling. How very astute of you.

One cannot form a hypothesis without first making an assumption, can one?



Patience, Grasshopper.

A scientific hypothesis is based on established laws of science, and accepted theories which have been tested and shown to be accurate and withstood the rigors of repetition by other scientists.

An assumption is a false premise, and a fallacy of logic. Any so-called "theory" that you might come up with, based on falsehoods, would be less than useless.


Why is it that an educated wench such as yourself doesn't know all that already?

So sorry, Darling.

Forgot your dependency on delineated definitions. I will help you out this time...but in the future, if you don't do your homework, you will be moved to the periphery of this discussion and will warrant no more effort on my behalf.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis?show=0&t=1320629708

Definition of HYPOTHESIS

1. a: an assumption or concession made for the sake of argument
b: an interpretation of a practical situation or condition taken as the ground for action

2. a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences

3. the antecedent clause of a conditional statement

Hypothesis

"For a hypothesis to be put forward as a scientific hypothesis, the scientific method requires that one can test it. Scientists generally base scientific hypotheses on previous observations that cannot satisfactorily be explained with the available scientific theories. Even though the words "hypothesis" and "theory" are often used synonymously, a scientific hypothesis is not the same as a scientific theory. A working hypothesis is a provisionally accepted hypothesis proposed for further research.

"In a related but distinguishable usage, the term hypothesis is used in formal logic for the antecedent of a proposition; thus in the proposition "If P, then Q", P denotes the hypothesis (or antecedent); Q can be called a consequent. P is the assumption in a (possibly counterfactual) What If question."



Sane communication does depend on delineation of terms, and agreement to their definitions. I have stated this before, but again, you have demonstrated your preferred ignorance.

Your posting of the informal definition shows your lack of regard for science, and higher understanding, and an intended insincerity in a discussion of this topic, because you prefer the confusion of ambiguous terminology. Probably so you can swap one definition for another, in midstream, in order to abberate the meanings of other things which you quote---as I have seen you do several times in the past.

But then, that's just your way, isn't it, Wench?

 

[EE THr]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

Big J---


P.S. The topic title is "...possible theories...," not "...assumptions and guesses." And not "...hypotheses."

You are up to your old "tricks," again. Trying to substitute definitions, and thus change meanings to suit your confusion factor.

 

[EddieR]

Re: discussion on the various possible theories that may be applicable to LrL's

Frankly,

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scarlet

scar·let (skärlt)
n.
1. A strong to vivid red or reddish orange.
2. Scarlet-colored clothing or cloth.
adj.
1. Of a strong to vivid red or reddish orange.
2. Flagrantly immoral or unchaste: scarlet thoughts.


I don't give a

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/damn

damn (dm)
v. damned, damn·ing, damns
v.tr.
1. To pronounce an adverse judgment upon. See Synonyms at condemn.
2. To bring about the failure of; ruin.
3. To condemn as harmful, illegal, or immoral: a cleric who damned gambling and strong drink.
4. To condemn to everlasting punishment or a similar fate; doom.
5. To swear at.
v.intr.
To swear; curse.
interj.
Used to express anger, irritation, contempt, or disappointment.
n.
1. The saying of "damn" as a curse.
2. Informal The least valuable bit; a jot: not worth a damn.

Off you go to the "Outer Limits".........