Food stamps

[0121stockpicker]

No, it isn't the government's job to create jobs.

It IS the government's job to GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY!

It ISN'T the government's job to ILLEGALLY USE ITS POWER TO STIFLE ITS POLITICAL OPPOSITION.

It ISN'T the government's job to STAND BY AND ALLOW FOREIGN INTERESTS TO KILL OUR DIPLOMATS AND CITIZENS.

It ISN'T the government's job to TELL OUR TROOPS TO STAND DOWN AND ALLOW FOREIGN INTERESTS TO KILL OUR DIPLOMATS AND CITIZENS.

It ISN'T the government's job to LIE TO CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

It ISN'T the government's job to SHOP FOR JUDGES TO ALLOW THE SUPPRESSION OF OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

It ISN'T the government's job to PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH LAWS IT WILL OR WILL NOT ENFORCE WITH A VIEW TO POLITICAL GAINS.

Should I go on? This is only a 20 second START to the problems of government intrusion into our lives, and that of our countrymen.

If you want a country with no gov and everyone with a gun feel free to head over to Somalia!!

 

[squiggy]

If you want a country with no gov and everyone with a gun feel free to head over to Somalia!!

Well said!!!!!

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[GMD52]

IMHO!

It is the duty of the Govt. to secure the borders, and protect the citizenry from attack,( which it doesn't )
It is the duty of the Govt. foster trade and international economic growth and prosperity.

It is not the duty of the Govt. to manufacture jobs to say we have full employment. Govt. makes public sector jobs that are funded by the taxpayers, Private sector jobs are driven by the free market, and if the business can't make a profit and continue, it fails. I believe, always have, and always will that the market will drive the economy up, and govt. drive it down. The recent surge in the market's is due, in my opinion to years of unsure feelings and confidence finally being overridden with the desire to get back on track, and make a profit for the investors. THe rally isn't due to anything that the administration or congress has done, but the normal cyclic ups and downs.

Simple you might call me, but it is the market and private business that will pull this country back, not the idiotic pandering of politicians. If they were as smart as they think they are they would be working in the reall world, and not lounging in DC.

This rant has been brought to you be a working stiff, who is tired of everyone telling him that they know better what is good for him! Ubntil they work for a living like the rest of us, they should just go away!!!!!!!!!!

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

promote the general Welfare...just about covers it.

 

[hvacker]

Government deficit is not a lack of tax revenue but rather over spending. The pull in way more revenue the should be pulled in now.

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If that were true explain our surplus of the 90's. The upside to government spending is it creates a lot of jobs. A way to look at spending in a positive way is to think of spending as a conduit for returning tax dollars to the people. The debt was caused by wars and loss of taxes. Something similar happened with LBJ. He tried to end poverty and fight a war at the same time. Bush tried to fight wars and cut taxes. Those that say our problem is debt are also the politicians in bed with corporate America. Like has been said "They speak with forked tongue". It's what comes naturally to politicians, the ad-populism. To say what will get them elected. The Flag, apple pie, and those spending YOUR money.
If our government did what the Tea Party wanted you would not like the results. The Gov can receive money from selling bonds and taxes. We have been spending like mad sense WW2 and those years until the 80's were our most prosperous. Ya gotta have income.

 

[davest]

IMHO!

It is the duty of the Govt. to secure the borders, and protect the citizenry from attack,( which it doesn't )
It is the duty of the Govt. foster trade and international economic growth and prosperity.

It is not the duty of the Govt. to manufacture jobs to say we have full employment. Govt. makes public sector jobs that are funded by the taxpayers, Private sector jobs are driven by the free market, and if the business can't make a profit and continue, it fails. I believe, always have, and always will that the market will drive the economy up, and govt. drive it down. The recent surge in the market's is due, in my opinion to years of unsure feelings and confidence finally being overridden with the desire to get back on track, and make a profit for the investors. THe rally isn't due to anything that the administration or congress has done, but the normal cyclic ups and downs.

Simple you might call me, but it is the market and private business that will pull this country back, not the idiotic pandering of politicians. If they were as smart as they think they are they would be working in the reall world, and not lounging in DC.

This rant has been brought to you be a working stiff, who is tired of everyone telling him that they know better what is good for him! Ubntil they work for a living like the rest of us, they should just go away!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so confused. One person says the government should create work so people have to earn food stamps, the other guy says the government shouldn't create jobs but should let folks starve make them steal.

One of those guys says private industry will bring the U.S.of A back to dominance but neglects to see that the manufacturing base that created the middle class, along with unions, is now gone. And that is where the real money came from during the 50s, 60s and early 70s. Once a certain presidents economic plan came in you could say good bye to all that.
If you thought the moneyed interests are going to do anything for the good old U.S. of A. you better take a look at the TransPacificPartnership and get ready to kiss your wage good bye.

Riddle me this: Does anyone really work hard enough to earn a Million Dollars an hour? WHat do they do?

 

[0121stockpicker]

I'm so confused. One person says the government should create work so people have to earn food stamps, the other guy says the government shouldn't create jobs but should let folks starve make them steal.

One of those guys says private industry will bring the U.S.of A back to dominance but neglects to see that the manufacturing base that created the middle class, along with unions, is now gone. And that is where the real money came from during the 50s, 60s and early 70s. Once a certain presidents economic plan came in you could say good bye to all that.
If you thought the moneyed interests are going to do anything for the good old U.S. of A. you better take a look at the TransPacificPartnership and get ready to kiss your wage good bye.

Riddle me this: Does anyone really work hard enough to earn a Million Dollars an hour? WHat do they do?

Maybe not a million an hour. But say you created a billion dollars in value you prob should be paid 10 million - right?

 

[dieselram94]

The manufacturing jobs went away because of crushing over the top environmental laws, regulations and high taxes.

 

[onfire]

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Riddle me this: Does anyone really work hard enough to earn a Million Dollars an hour? WHat do they do?

Ask Bill Clinton he just wrote some book or was that Hillery or no maybe O And the word WORK never entered their mind.

 

[GMD52]

Secret,

Simple response, take it for what it's worth......." You do what you want with your money, and don't be telling me what to do with mine"

 

[worldtalker]

The manufacturing jobs went away because of crushing over the top environmental laws, regulations and high taxes.

By gosh,those were the money making days!!!!!!

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

the constitution was written by agrarians...no one went hungry, when there w2as
has nothing to do with money, mine or what you have.

 

[GMD52]

Don,

Yes a majority of the framers of the Constitution were from the agrarian South, but hey were well balanced and challenged by the New England states. The combination of Federal power, and states right were hard fought, and due to the differences, after the signing of the Constitution in 1787, to get it radified, in 1791 the Bill of Rights was added and that is what led to the final radification of our nations founding Document. With out the industrial New England, the document would not have passed as written. Eldridge Gerry, and the whole Rhode Island contingtent would not sign and walked out. The final outcome of this Nation may have been written with the vast influence of the agrarian states, but it was the coming together of all 13 colonies that saw the final radification of the Document.

 

[davest]

the manufacturing jobs went away because the owners could move them to countries where environmental and labor rights were non existant. Just today Walmart was fined 82 million dollars for pouring poisons onto lands and down sewers where they will affect the water the rest of our lives. Do you guys really want a world without regulations to prevent that? Anybody know the ratio of CEO salary to workers in 1970? Anybody know what that same ratio is today?

Stock, they created a billion dollars of value out of what? I respect your financial views but could you explain what derivatives are and how they work for us, seriously, I don't quite grasp how someone could set something up to fail, insure it, actively work toward it failing and when it does, collect a profit on the failure. (Did I say that erroneously?)

The rest of the comments aren't even worth replying to.

 

[GMD52]

Davest, sorry to hear that we are no longer worthy of your responses. I'm not the brightest bulb in the circuit, but don't hide when confronted with opinions I don't agree with. If this is how you deal with conflicting opinions, I truly am no longer worthy of responding to you either. Have a nice day !

 

[dieselram94]

the manufacturing jobs went away because the owners could move them to countries where environmental and labor rights were non existant. Just today Walmart was fined 82 million dollars for pouring poisons onto lands and down sewers where they will affect the water the rest of our lives. Do you guys really want a world without regulations to prevent that? Anybody know the ratio of CEO salary to workers in 1970? Anybody know what that same ratio is today?

Stock, they created a billion dollars of value out of what? I respect your financial views but could you explain what derivatives are and how they work for us, seriously, I don't quite grasp how someone could set something up to fail, insure it, actively work toward it failing and when it does, collect a profit on the failure. (Did I say that erroneously?)

The rest of the comments aren't even worth replying to.

Davest, the labor unions are driving the cost of doing business way higher than need be. The environmental laws are way past the point of being ridiculous. I don't think you could find anyone who is a responsible adult thinks there should be no regulations. These regulations are for the most part beyond reasonable. Like the dredging ban in California. Regulations with an agenda.

 

[worldtalker]

Davest, the labor unions are driving the cost of doing business way higher than need be. The environmental laws are way past the point of being ridiculous. I don't think you could find anyone who is a responsible adult thinks there should be no regulations. These regulations are for the most part beyond reasonable. Like the dredging ban in California. Regulations with an agenda.

If a company were fair and equitable,unions wouldn't exist,but,they do,destroying the company.

 

[dieselram94]

If a company were fair and equitable,unions wouldn't exist,but,they do,destroying the company.

I agree some companies treat workers unfairly, but the unions have become unreasonable, with an agenda...

 

[hvacker]

I agree some companies treat workers unfairly, but the unions have become unreasonable, with an agenda...

Just a quick question. Are you now or have you ever been a member of a labor Union?

 

[hvacker]

the manufacturing jobs went away because the owners could move them to countries where environmental and labor rights were non existant. Just today Walmart was fined 82 million dollars for pouring poisons onto lands and down sewers where they will affect the water the rest of our lives. Do you guys really want a world without regulations to prevent that? Anybody know the ratio of CEO salary to workers in 1970? Anybody know what that same ratio is today?

Stock, they created a billion dollars of value out of what? I respect your financial views but could you explain what derivatives are and how they work for us, seriously, I don't quite grasp how someone could set something up to fail, insure it, actively work toward it failing and when it does, collect a profit on the failure. (Did I say that erroneously?)

The rest of the comments aren't even worth replying to.

How can we know when were being gamed? The people that should be in jail today from our financial system have all the looks of confidence men. One way is when someone tries to sell you something there is a feeling of sand being thrown in your eyes. You might actually find yourself blinking as if trying to clear your vision. Another is a feeling of confusion when trying to understand what you were told. Like your mind is spinning.
That is what we've been through as a Nation. It's no wonder because that is just the effect they wanted. It's hard to argue about something your not clear about. Derivatives for example. Any investment should be simple enough the average person could understand it. So bring in the double-talkers and confuse the masses. Then they tell you "Your just not smart enough to understand these complex financial products." BS! We are being gamed, coned, ripped off and even our government is on the take with a few exceptions.
The Hopi's have a saying I've mentioned before. Koya nis qusi. World out of balance. It can't last unless we proceed to a future like Blade Runner.