what was meant: by allowing an employer to require a pre employment urinalysis you may as well allow them to go through your trash, your hamper, your social network and anything else they may want to do. If it's not an "all or nothing" issue, what is it? Where do you draw the line? When they ask "How many and what type of guns do you own?"
And while we're on that, why don't we drug test everyone that wants to buy a firearm? It would seem to me they can cause more harm than a person drawing foodstamps or ebt.
I can see that I've been accused of saying people that are not working should be held to a laxer status than those that do, when in fact, I asked, WHY DO YOU SUBMIT TO DRUG TESTING WITHOUT CAUSE? Big difference and no insult intended or extended.
Would you be so kind as to show me the "neanderthal" post I made? Thanks much.
I see your way of thinking, and I have to agree with quite a bit of it.
Please correct me if I am wrong. You said that if we allow ourselves to be drug tested, then we are also allowing them to do anything they want to do with us, like look through our trash?
I have to agree that you are right on this, we are giving in too much on our rights.
I once worked for a nuclear utility with random drug tests. I was randomly tested, every single month for 6 years = 72 times. In the meantime, I had a co-worker who received a speeding ticket. He was terminated.
I felt it was the right thing to do, keep working to support my family. Instead I was surrendering my rights voluntarily....
Geez, I was a perfect citizen, and this was 20 years ago.
Though I do disagree with your statement that everything should be free, at the cost of the less than 50% of us who work. We can't do that, it is not sustainable. But maybe you have a point of sarcasm there, and you are right about that as well.
So, I give you 2 points well made.
As for my 2nd Amendment rights, I don't own a single firearm (but don't tell the local felons that.) I do have a sparkling clean record. But that does not mean that I give up my 2nd Amendment rights. I fought for those rights, though I personally have not taken those rights to own firearms - I am not to dictate against those rights for others. It's the same as my view on abortion. Personally I am against it - but it is not the decision that I would make for others. Who am I to tell a woman what she must do with her own situation?
As individuals, we must also honor the legal rights of others.
As to the statement, I identified myself as a Neanderthal, merely spell checking - please pardon - once wanted to be an English professor - even criticize myself when I hit send prior to checking my own fingertips.
Davest - I think you are actually making valid points, and much depends on how they are read by others. In life it is always in the way we phrase things, and of course the interpretation of those who read them.
You and I may not agree, and sometimes quite thoroughly 180 degrees apart.
So you sir, take care of yourself, and do try to understand where conservatives come from as well.
